Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 >Hey all, seems to me there's a lot of focus on the fasting/feasting, without >looking much at the actual feasting meal. Could there be something >*magical* in it? <VBG> I think in the FRD version there are a couple of things: 1. The vegies. The two cuisines I KNOW have big dinners both feature big quantities of vegies. We had a Turkish lady cook for us once -- she would make these huge 6-course dinners with basically nothing but vegies and olive oil, with a little feta, meat, and rice maybe thrown in. 2. The high calories. 3. The slow pace. What I THINK happens (based on previous pig-out dinners I've gone to) is that the food sits in the gut for about 20 hours or more. Certainly into the next day and the next morning. Vegies have lots of fiber, so by the next day, it is fermenting, producing more food (butyrate at least, probably other things) plus vitamins. Plus the whole digestive process would slow down, because foods that are combined don't reach the bloodstream so quickly. So you have nutrients " leaking " into your blood for many hours after the meal, though I'm not sure on the rate or which ones are digested when. Also, since your brain/appestat is " satisfied " , it releases the hormones you need to release fat from the fat cells ( " Hmmm ... obviously we aren't starving here so lets use up that fat while we digest this big meal " ). Also a big meal in company is RELAXING so cortisol levels are likely to be less, and cortisol tends to make you hungry. Whatever insulin rebound there might have been would be gone by the next AM anyway, but if you produce " too much " insulin it would probably be used up better by a BIG meal. And yes, I'm just theorizing! Big meals DO seem to stabilize my blood sugar well, even without the fasting. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 What is FRDing? > Hey all, seems to me there's a lot of focus on the fasting/feasting, without > looking much at the actual feasting meal. Could there be something > *magical* in it? <VBG> > > The reason I ask is that both my daughter and I were of the type who woke up > and if we didn't eat something right away, we started to feel sick. If my > daughter went too long (which could be quite fast by the clock) she'd be on > the verge of vomiting. When I switched to FRDing it, that completely ended > for me! I was thrilled to not wake up hungry and to not HAVE to eat right > away. But there was my daughter (only 8) with it still going on. I was > (and still am) NOT comfortable with putting her on a fast/feast schedule, > but I did wish that she too could be free from that terrible need for > calories first thing in the morning. > > The only thing that changed for my kids is that they eat the evening meal > with us, in the same order and over the same amount of time that we do. > They may not eat as much salad as the adults, but they sit with us and wait > for the meat course. They general finish it before us also, but I don't > serve them their next course until we are all ready to eat it. In general > they eat more of the third course (potato for example) and the occasional > fourth course (an NT dessert) than the adults. Here's the kicker! My > daughter is no longer feeling nauseous in the morning and having to eat > right away! I no longer have to immediately cook up the oatmeal (or > whatever). The other day I decided to see just how long it would be before > they asked for food - TWO HOURS! They had been up for two hours when they > asked about breakfast, and it was because they were hungry, not because > they were feeling sick and needing to eat right then. > > The difference in the evening meal is the order the food is eaten in (not > all served on one plate at one time) and the length of time we spend eating > (has increased). Any thoughts? > > A lighter, flatter stomach, more energetic, FRDing it, > Rhea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 > What is FRDing? French Riviera Dieting : ) I actually prefer French Riviera Living ; ) but FRD is in use here so I go with it. Rhea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2003 Report Share Posted August 15, 2003 I knew it was going to be something I should know : ) Thanks. Del > > > What is FRDing? > > French Riviera Dieting : ) > > I actually prefer French Riviera Living ; ) but FRD is in use here so I go > with it. > > Rhea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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