re: Nanobacteria (nanobes) and calcium deposits...

[Guest guest]

If 'Nanobacteria' truly are as abundant and ancient as described, then I

think it is safe to say that they do not 'cause' disease, but rather, simply

act the same way other organisms do - if the terrain is bad, they take on a

'bad' character', if the terrain is good, they take on a 'good' character

(pleomorphic).

In other words, they do NOT cause disease, they simply reflect the condition

of the inner terrain.

> Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 22:21:08 -0400

> From: Bill Kingsbury <kingsbry@...>

> Subject: Nanobacteria (nanobes) and calcium deposits...

>

>

> Saul wrote:

> > Sarcoidosis can cause high levels of calcium to accumulate in

> the blood and urine due to activation of Vitamin D, which

> enhances calcium absorption in the intestines. [...]

> If present for long enough, kidney stones or calcium deposits

> in the kidney may result in kidney failure. <

>

>

> Sounds like " EDTA chelation " might be of benefit. Researchers

> have found that " nanobacteria " (the smallest organism known) are

> a cause of kidney (and other) stones, and calcium deposits, and

> perhaps even calcium plaque in the cardiovascular system. Each

> nanobacteria lives inside a shell of calcium compounds, so the

> immune system (and medical tests) cannot find them.

>

> Nanobacteria are too small to be caught in ordinary filters,

> and they apparently cannot be eliminated from vaccines, foods,

> or drinking water. They are highly resistant to heat,

> gamma-irradiation and antibiotics. They prefer to grow where

> heat, radiation, antibiotics, or the immune system have

> eliminated the competition of other organisms.

>

> If EDTA chelation can dissolve the nanobes' calcium shells,

> they may then be cleared from the body using antibiotics, or

> oxygen /ozone therapy, or UV-blood irradiation -- or perhaps

> by a normal immune system(?). Perhaps resonant- frequency

> devices can be attuned to kill nanobacteria, but this alone

> would not remove their calcium deposits.

>

>

> Articles -

>

> Do nanobacteria rule Earth and Mars? -

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_300000/300949.stm

>

> The Bacteria in the Stone -- Extra-tiny microorganisms may

> lead to kidney stones and other diseases -

> http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc98/8_1_98/bob2.htm

>

> Nanobacteria: surely not figments, but what

> under heaven are they? -

> Author's Summary: Nannobacteria are very small living

> creatures in the 0.05 to 0.2 micrometer range. They are

> enormously abundant in minerals and rocks, and probably run

> most of the earth's surface chemistry. Although I conjecture

> that they form most of the world's biomass, they remain

> " biota incognita " to the biological world as their genetic

> relationships, metabolism, and other characteristics remain

> to be investigated.

> http://www.naturalscience.com/ns/articles/01-03/ns_folk.html

>

>

> Research websites -

>

> Nanoworld - Dr. Philippa J.R. Uwins -

> (with high- resolution images)

> http://www.uq.edu.au/nanoworld/uwins.html

>

> Nanobacteria - E. Olavi Kajander -

> http://www.uku.fi/~kajander/index.html

>

> Nanobiology Links -

> http://naturalscience.com/ns/links/nanobiol.html

>

> Nanobac Oy -

> http://www.nanobac.com/index.html

> http://www.nanobac.com/publications.html

> http://www.nanobac.com/relatedlinks.html

> http://www.nanobac.com/links.html

>

> Nanobacteria.org - JAMN - (was " Under Construction " ) -

> http://www.nanobacteria.org

>

> NanobacLabs -- (was " Under Construction " ) -

> http://www.nanobaclabs.com

>

>

>

> -Bill

[Guest guest]

Bill,

Apple cider vinegar & honey will work on that excess calcium also, and a

lot cheaper & safer.

jim

Bill Kingsbury wrote:

>

> Sounds like " EDTA chelation " might be of benefit. Researchers

> have found that " nanobacteria " (the smallest organism known) are

> a cause of kidney (and other) stones, and calcium deposits, and

> perhaps even calcium plaque in the cardiovascular system. Each

> nanobacteria lives inside a shell of calcium compounds, so the

> immune system (and medical tests) cannot find them.

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[Guest guest]

Saul,

Is there a test to show the level of calcium in blood?

Steve

> ** Original Subject: Nanobacteria (nanobes) and calcium deposits...

> ** Original Sender: Bill Kingsbury <kingsbry@...>

> ** Original Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 05:25:53 +0000

> ** Original Message follows...

>

> Saul wrote:

> > Sarcoidosis can cause high levels of calcium to accumulate in

> the blood and urine due to activation of Vitamin D, which

> enhances calcium absorption in the intestines. [...]

> If present for long enough, kidney stones or calcium deposits

> in the kidney may result in kidney failure. <

>

>

> Sounds like " EDTA chelation " might be of benefit. Researchers

> have found that " nanobacteria " (the smallest organism known) are

> a cause of kidney (and other) stones, and calcium deposits, and

> perhaps even calcium plaque in the cardiovascular system. Each

> nanobacteria lives inside a shell of calcium compounds, so the

> immune system (and medical tests) cannot find them.

>

> Nanobacteria are too small to be caught in ordinary filters,

> and they apparently cannot be eliminated from vaccines, foods,

> or drinking water. They are highly resistant to heat,

> gamma-irradiation and antibiotics. They prefer to grow where

> heat, radiation, antibiotics, or the immune system have

> eliminated the competition of other organisms.

>

> If EDTA chelation can dissolve the nanobes' calcium shells,

> they may then be cleared from the body using antibiotics, or

> oxygen /ozone therapy, or UV-blood irradiation -- or perhaps

> by a normal immune system(?). Perhaps resonant- frequency

> devices can be attuned to kill nanobacteria, but this alone

> would not remove their calcium deposits.

>

>

> Articles -

>

> Do nanobacteria rule Earth and Mars? -

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_300000/300949.stm

>

> The Bacteria in the Stone -- Extra-tiny microorganisms may

> lead to kidney stones and other diseases -

> http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc98/8_1_98/bob2.htm

>

> Nanobacteria: surely not figments, but what

> under heaven are they? -

> Author's Summary: Nannobacteria are very small living

> creatures in the 0.05 to 0.2 micrometer range. They are

> enormously abundant in minerals and rocks, and probably run

> most of the earth's surface chemistry. Although I conjecture

> that they form most of the world's biomass, they remain

> " biota incognita " to the biological world as their genetic

> relationships, metabolism, and other characteristics remain

> to be investigated.

> http://www.naturalscience.com/ns/articles/01-03/ns_folk.html

>

>

> Research websites -

>

> Nanoworld - Dr. Philippa J.R. Uwins -

> (with high- resolution images)

> http://www.uq.edu.au/nanoworld/uwins.html

>

> Nanobacteria - E. Olavi Kajander -

> http://www.uku.fi/~kajander/index.html

>

> Nanobiology Links -

> http://naturalscience.com/ns/links/nanobiol.html

>

> Nanobac Oy -

> http://www.nanobac.com/index.html

> http://www.nanobac.com/publications.html

> http://www.nanobac.com/relatedlinks.html

> http://www.nanobac.com/links.html

>

> Nanobacteria.org - JAMN - (was " Under Construction " ) -

> http://www.nanobacteria.org

>

> NanobacLabs -- (was " Under Construction " ) -

> http://www.nanobaclabs.com

>

>

>

> -Bill

>

>

> P.S. -- Two abstracts:

> -------------------------------------------

>

> http://www.nanobac.com/abstract1.html

>

> NANOBACTERIA FROM BLOOD, THE SMALLEST CULTURABLE AUTONOMOUSLY

> REPLICATING AGENT ON EARTH.

>

> a) E. Olavi Kajander, a) Ilpo Kuronen, Kari Åkerman,

> c) Alpo Pelttari and a) Neva Çiftçioglu

>

> a) Department of Biochemistry and Biotechnology, Department

> of Clinical Physiology, c) Department of Electron Microscopy,

> Kuopio University Hospital and University of Kuopio, P.O.Box

> 1627, FIN-70211, Kuopio, Finland

>

> ABSTRACT

>

> Nanobacteria are the first mineral forming bacteria isolated from

> blood and blood products. They are coccoid cell-walled organisms

> with a size of 0.08-0.5 µm in EM, occur in clusters, produce a

> biofilm containing carbonate or hydroxyl apatite, and are highly

> resistant to heat, gamma-irradiation and antibiotics. Their growth

> rate is about one hundredth that of ordinary bacteria and they

> divide via several mechanisms. Taq polymerase was able to use their

> nontraditional nucleic acid as a template. 16S rRNA gene sequence

> results positioned them into the alpha-2 subgroup of Proteobacteria.

>

> Nanobacteria are smallest cell-walled bacteria since they can pass

> through 0.07 µm pores. In low-serum cultures, they form even

> smaller elementary particles or tubular units. How can blood be

> infected with such slow growing, heat and radio-resistant bacteria?

> The answer may lie in their phylogeny: alpha-2 subgroup has

> organisms from soil exposed to radiation and heat, that can

> penetrate into eukaryotic cells. Nanobacteria grow so slowly that

> they require a niche 'cleaned' with heat, radiation or

> immunodefence. For survival they cloak themselves in apatite, a

> normal constituent of mammalian body. This may link nanobacteria to

> nanobacteria discovered from sedimentary rocks by Dr. Folk. Both

> have similar size, size variation, clustering and mineral deposits.

> They may resemble the probable ancient bacterial fossils in the

> Martian meteorite ALH84001.

>

>

> -------------------------------------------

>

> http://www.nanobac.com/abstract2.html

>

> BIOMINERALISATION BY THE SMALLEST KNOWN NANO-ORGANISMS IN

> BLOOD: IMPLICATIONS FOR PATHOGENIC DISEASES.

>

> Vali, H. (Electron Microscopy Centre, McGill Univ.,

> vali_h@...),

>

> Çiftçioglu, N. & Kajander, E.O. (Dept. of Biochem. & Biotech.,

> Univ. of Kuopio)

>

> ABSTRACT

>

> Unique culturable nano-organisms, capable of producing biominerals

> and likely responsible for pathogenic mineralization (e.g., kidney

> stone, tooth plaque and various tissue mineralization), have been

> isolated from mammalian blood and blood products. These

> nano-organisms have also been detected in human blood and their

> antigens found in kidney stones. The chemical composition and

> morphological features of mineralized nano-organisms resemble

> mineral particles found in calcified tissue cells and kidney

> stones. The surface morphology and internal structure of the

> nano-organisms were investigated in Pt/C replica, ultrathin section

> and cryo-ultrathin section in TEM. The nano-organisms are hundreds

> of micrometers in size and are not initially visible under the

> optical light microscope. After several days of incubation,

> however, and depending on culture conditions, the nano-organisms

> can be observed easily. The mode of formation of minerals within

> the nano-organisms seems to be distinct from known biologically

> induced or biologically controlled mineralization. The surfaces of

> the nano-organisms show a granular aggregation of particles of ~30

> nm in size embedded in an organic matrix. In HRTEM, the internal

> structure of the nano-organisms show the ubiquitous presence of

> fine-grained hydroxyapatite. The chemical composition and structure

> of the crystals formed by the nano-organisms are similar to

> crystallites in enamel. The overall morphology and texture (e.g.,

> size, shape, orientation and growth pattern) of the crystals within

> these organisms, however, resemble features observed in pre-dentin

> and pre-bone matrices. Mechanisms of mineralization in bone and

> dentin are not well understood. There is general agreement,

> however, that glycosylated phosphoproteins are responsible for

> mineralization in dentin and bone. Although the morphological

> characteristics of the mineralized nano-organisms are distinctive,

> and the presence of glycosylated protein in nano-organisms

> uncertain, a similar protein-based process of mineral formation in

> nano-organisms is conceivable. If so, these nano-organisms will

> have significance for understanding the mechanisms of pathogenic

> mineralization and may provide insight into biomineralization

> processes in bone and dentin.

>

>

>

>

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