Guest guest Posted June 25, 1999 Report Share Posted June 25, 1999 Aloha, Everyone, I am just wondering how many of you have tried HGH (human growth hormone), in what form, and with what results. I have taken proHgH in tablet form, dissolved in water, several different times. I first bought it through Dr. Cheney's office and took it for 3 months. I had an IGF test for my hormone level before and after. although my hgh was still very low after the 3 month period, there was marked improvement in the levels. I took it for another 3 months, but wasn't able to have the follow-up tests. I recently finished another 3 months, on my own, without the dr.'s supervision, and without follow up. I don't know whether it still helps or not. I have seen something claiming to be hgh in pill form in a supplement catalog that I've never ordered from. It's much cheaper than what I have been taking. Has anyone tried the pills? Also, I've never taken the injections, just the rather foul-tasting liquid. One more question: has anyone else noticed/experienced a correlation between pain and energy levels? It seems to me that when my overall pain is moderate, I have more energy. when I have less pain, I have VERY low energy. Of course, if the pain gets really severe, I don't notice whether I have any energy or not!!! For the last few months I've been going through a low enrgy/low pain cycle. Warm wishes to all, Teeza in Honolulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 1999 Report Share Posted June 26, 1999 If you have true HgH defiance you need to take the real thing. Cheney does not test for HgH and he does not provide HgH therapy. The supplements are basically for old folks who want to add zest to their life and a drop a few points from there golf score. If you have a real problem with HgH then you need to find a real endocrinologist test for it. This will most likely be a University Research Hospital. The problem is finding an endocrinologist that will take CFS seriously. I seems like we folks with CFS are stuck between a rock and a hard place. I order to get taken seriously we must go to these CFS cowboys who shot fast and loose. And in order to get good solid treatment we must go to University-based research hospital where we are not taken seriously. I have just been admitted to a HgH study and I will post the results. I am in an advantageous position because I am a University professors and most of the Dr. will not say I am crazy, at least not to my face. Good luck. I do not know if the HgH route is going to provide any help or not but if you want to explore this route do it seriously. Real HgH therapy cost about 16,000 US dollars a year. However, if you are tested at a credible institution they will have people who will negotiate the cost of these medications for you and they will also have foundation assistance if you need it. Sorry to be on the soap box tonight. God bless, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 1999 Report Share Posted July 5, 1999 All - DO NOT / NOT CONSIDER GETTING / USING ANY OTHER VACCINE. I BELIEVE THAT THE " COLORADO " VACCINE IS FOR VETERINARY USE AND IS THE STERNE, LIVE, ATTENUATED TYPE. THE RUSSIANS USE THE LIVE, ATTENUATED STI VACCINE, AND IT IS FAR MORE REACTOGENIC THAN ANY KILLED, SUBUNIT VACCINE. DON'T GO THERE, FOLKS. THE ALTERNATIVE VACCINE IS THE RECOMBINANT - PA TYPE WHICH HAS BEEN PRODUCED FOR USAMRIID AND COULD BE PUT INTO CLINICAL TRIALS THIS YEAR. __IF DOD HAD THE MOTIVATION TO DO SO__ <><><><><><><><><><><> A. on, PhD grobertson@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 1999 Report Share Posted July 5, 1999 With regard to " safer " anthrax vaccines posted earlier: on is correct. The " Colorado " vaccine is presumably an animal vaccine. The animal vaccine is a live attenuated strain of Anthrax, unlike the " killed " human vaccine. However, the animal vaccine occasionally kills animals to which it is given, especially in certain species. So no one should be considering using it. There exists no published experience with that vaccine in humans. The Russian (actually Georgian) vaccine is a live vaccine, but uses a different strain of anthrax than the US animal vaccine. So the two should not be compared either. Meryl -- ** Please note new email address ** mnass@... ==================== Meryl Nass, M.D. 124 Wardtown Road Freeport, Maine 04032 phone (207) 865-0875 fax (207) 865-6975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 1999 Report Share Posted September 4, 1999 >Janet Battcock wrote: > >> Has anyone else here been afflicted with this very painful and >> immobilizing condition of the foot? Janet > > Yes. Then I got a prescription of Endocin (75 mg, twice a day). Things are much better now. Back to mountain biking, skiing, hiking etc. Could hardly walk some mornings before this. Apart from some crashes, the mountain sports seem to liberate me from the P & PA. Snowboarding is especially helpful to strech the back and hips. -ck age 36 male , p for 20 yrs, pa almost the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 Hi Joyce Kathy here. I don't live in scottsdale but not to far i'm in Tucson. Live here since 1967 love Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2000 Report Share Posted May 11, 2000 At 09:28 AM 5/11/00 +0000, you wrote: >Is this true? What is the purpose of sodium laurel sulfate (I thought it >was to add suds), and how would sweet orange oil be a substitute? Or am I >being dumb? the sweet orange won't add suds, but it's the best grease cutter you will ever find. also a good 'general solvent'...ie if you take a label off something and it leaves the glue behind on the bottle, sweet orange oil will clean it off... it's good added to laundry or dishwater to cut grease. which makes me wonder why folks use it in lip balms and lotions since it dries the skin.... Your source for superb Essential Oils, Aromatherapy Accessories, Information, Books and more! Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2000 Report Share Posted August 19, 2000 Dear Sue: I don't care what Country you are living in, you are owed a full work-up and any possible treatment. I did not read your first post, so forgive me if I am slightly off. But, if you have cirrhosis, and whatever else from HCV, that does not change what does need to be done. You still should have your genotype and viral levels, (quant and qual) calculated. In addition you should have a full lab or blood testing. You may or may not remain the same no matter what is done, but you are owed the chance to try and stop the disease. Also, despite whatever else may happen, from what I was able to pick up, if nothing is done, your best outcome is you are placed on the list for a liver transplant, and that is against most people by numbers available and people needing, as well as will result in some very high and long term costs for anti-rejection medication, etc. You may or may not find yourself in that situation no matter what is done now. But, if you can fix " the original equipment " , it is always better than " after market parts " . But, if you undergo treatment, and it works, then you will be better off. Also, I could be wrong, but, I think you could come into any experimental program in the US if you qualify and, it might not cost you anything, plus, depending on the program, Canada does pay for certain medical treatment carried out in the US. It's worth a look. My prayers and good wishes will be with you. Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2000 Report Share Posted August 19, 2000 Dear Connie: You are more than happy to see me in the prison, but, you'll have to register with the people out front to use our clinic. I believe your meds are free and so is the care, but, I am not sure you'll like your roommate. But, I am sure there will be many " brothers and sisters " with HCV, and HIV and a whole host of other problems. That way no one will feel left out. You'll love the " friends " you can meet, since this is more or less a holding prison, and many of the " guests " will make their way to being allowed to make the choice whether they would like their final treatment to be IV, or would they like that special jolt. But, at least they have a long time before they have to make that choice with the appellate process. So, I hope not to see you or any others on the list there. But, if you're in the neighborhood, just ask some friendly person who is carrying a gun, radio, special silver colored bracelets, and other items on their belt, if they would allow you to wear their bracelets and give you a ride. Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2000 Report Share Posted August 19, 2000 LOL Marty you are Nuts....smile, Connie --- 2byteme@... wrote: > Dear Connie: > You are more than happy to see me in the prison, > but, you'll have to > register with the people out front to use our > clinic. I believe your > meds are free and so is the care, but, I am not sure > you'll like your > roommate. > But, I am sure there will be many " brothers and > sisters " with HCV, > and HIV and a whole host of other problems. That way > no one will feel > left out. You'll love the " friends " you can meet, > since this is more or > less a holding prison, and many of the " guests " will > make their way to > being allowed to make the choice whether they would > like their final > treatment to be IV, or would they like that special > jolt. But, at least > they have a long time before they have to make that > choice with the > appellate process. > So, I hope not to see you or any others on the > list there. But, if > you're in the neighborhood, just ask some friendly > person who is > carrying a gun, radio, special silver colored > bracelets, and other items > on their belt, if they would allow you to wear their > bracelets and give > you a ride. Marty > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2000 Report Share Posted August 19, 2000 <snicker> had me going there for a sec! <blink blink> don't do that to a blonde hepper on treatment! grandbabies are gone for the weekend yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Not like I feel like doing anything .. but I'll enjoy the quiet! alley/ ICQ 12631861 alleypat@... http://www.flash.net/~alleypat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2000 Report Share Posted August 19, 2000 Hey Pat, it's Party Time the babies are gone ! Isn't it a shame we don't feel like Partying?...Smile, Connie --- " Ken & Pat @home " <alleypat@...> wrote: > <snicker> had me going there for a sec! <blink > blink> don't do that to a > blonde hepper on treatment! grandbabies are gone > for the weekend > yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee > > Not like I feel like doing anything .. but I'll > enjoy the quiet! > > alley/ > ICQ 12631861 > alleypat@... > http://www.flash.net/~alleypat > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2000 Report Share Posted August 21, 2000 HI TO ALL, THIS IS FOR SUE, I was just reading your post from the 18th, a bit late, have a few ideas for you, first there are 2 doctors who will treat you an INFECTIOUS DISEASE DOCTOR, and also a CANCER CENTER, I know they would both treat you, also the infectious disease doctor would probably know more than most. Are you the one with the aches and joint pains, it is very common in hep patients, and the meds. sometimes make it worst, I found a few articles on the aches and joint pains, even though it states people who do not have Hep c also have it, a lot of people who do have hep. have all the joint pains, if interested will send you the articles, I think the name is FIBROSIS, but has all the symptoms that most complain about. I am not you, but I would not have any surgery now, seems most surgeons want to do is cut you open, can't understand why nobody had done a viral load on you????? If you would like to E-mail me with questions or anything at all, please feel free, I have been on treatment now going on 21 months. Long story. Hope I helped you, Good luck, hope to hear from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2000 Report Share Posted August 21, 2000 HI TO ALL, THIS IS FOR SUE, I was just reading your post from the 18th, a bit late, have a few ideas for you, first there are 2 doctors who will treat you an INFECTIOUS DISEASE DOCTOR, and also a CANCER CENTER, I know they would both treat you, also the infectious disease doctor would probably know more than most. Are you the one with the aches and joint pains, it is very common in hep patients, and the meds. sometimes make it worst, I found a few articles on the aches and joint pains, even though it states people who do not have Hep c also have it, a lot of people who do have hep. have all the joint pains, if interested will send you the articles, I think the name is FIBROSIS, but has all the symptoms that most complain about. I am not you, but I would not have any surgery now, seems most surgeons want to do is cut you open, can't understand why nobody had done a viral load on you????? If you would like to E-mail me with questions or anything at all, please feel free, I have been on treatment now going on 21 months. Long story. Hope I helped you, Good luck, hope to hear from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2000 Report Share Posted August 21, 2000 Hi , I was just thinking about you! I read a message on a bulletin board from a wife, excited because at week 16 of treatment her husband was " in full remission " , so his doctor told him he could stop the medications. Sound familiar? I wrote and told her it was too soon, but she really didn't want to hear it!!! So what kind of doctor are you seeing? I have heard elsewhere that many Infections Disease specialists will treat HCV, and are often more open to 'experimental' or 'aggressive' treatments, since they are used to treating people with HIV. It is something I am considering looking into if my current doctor doesn't get a bit more aggressive. About the joint and aches articles: was it fibromyalgia? So what dose are you down to now, and how are you doing? Claudine ===== Claudine claudinecrews@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2000 Report Share Posted August 21, 2000 Hi , I was just thinking about you! I read a message on a bulletin board from a wife, excited because at week 16 of treatment her husband was " in full remission " , so his doctor told him he could stop the medications. Sound familiar? I wrote and told her it was too soon, but she really didn't want to hear it!!! So what kind of doctor are you seeing? I have heard elsewhere that many Infections Disease specialists will treat HCV, and are often more open to 'experimental' or 'aggressive' treatments, since they are used to treating people with HIV. It is something I am considering looking into if my current doctor doesn't get a bit more aggressive. About the joint and aches articles: was it fibromyalgia? So what dose are you down to now, and how are you doing? Claudine ===== Claudine claudinecrews@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2000 Report Share Posted August 21, 2000 I have seen Fibromyalgia called Fibrosis, also. I have Fibromyalgia....And yes, you ache like you were run over by a truck. Have problems with memory...they call that Fibro Fog....and other miscellaneous stuff.. --- CCampb3234@... wrote: > HI TO ALL, THIS IS FOR SUE, > I was > just reading your post from > the 18th, a bit late, have a few ideas for you, > first there are 2 doctors who > will treat you an INFECTIOUS DISEASE DOCTOR, and > also a CANCER CENTER, I > know they would both treat you, also the infectious > disease doctor would > probably know more than most. Are you the one with > the aches and joint pains, > it is very common in hep patients, and the meds. > sometimes make it worst, I > found a few articles on the aches and joint pains, > even though it states > people who do not have Hep c also have it, a lot of > people who do have hep. > have all the joint pains, if interested will send > you the articles, I think > the name is FIBROSIS, but has all the symptoms that > most complain about. I am > not you, but I would not have any surgery now, seems > most surgeons want to do > is cut you open, can't understand why nobody had > done a viral load on > you????? If you would like to E-mail me with > questions or anything at all, > please feel free, I have been on treatment now going > on 21 months. Long story. > Hope I helped you, Good luck, hope to hear from you. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2000 Report Share Posted August 21, 2000 I have seen Fibromyalgia called Fibrosis, also. I have Fibromyalgia....And yes, you ache like you were run over by a truck. Have problems with memory...they call that Fibro Fog....and other miscellaneous stuff.. --- CCampb3234@... wrote: > HI TO ALL, THIS IS FOR SUE, > I was > just reading your post from > the 18th, a bit late, have a few ideas for you, > first there are 2 doctors who > will treat you an INFECTIOUS DISEASE DOCTOR, and > also a CANCER CENTER, I > know they would both treat you, also the infectious > disease doctor would > probably know more than most. Are you the one with > the aches and joint pains, > it is very common in hep patients, and the meds. > sometimes make it worst, I > found a few articles on the aches and joint pains, > even though it states > people who do not have Hep c also have it, a lot of > people who do have hep. > have all the joint pains, if interested will send > you the articles, I think > the name is FIBROSIS, but has all the symptoms that > most complain about. I am > not you, but I would not have any surgery now, seems > most surgeons want to do > is cut you open, can't understand why nobody had > done a viral load on > you????? If you would like to E-mail me with > questions or anything at all, > please feel free, I have been on treatment now going > on 21 months. Long story. > Hope I helped you, Good luck, hope to hear from you. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2000 Report Share Posted October 24, 2000 << For research purposes only I would like to suggest the possibility of the Peroxide (H2O2) and DMSO bath. Given that H202 kills cancer cells and given that DMSO could carry H2O2 into tissues and given that the skin is the biggest organ, the question arises as to the effect of a hot water bath containing H2O2 and DMSO >> In the late 80s I cured my body of a serious infestation of candida by taking 35% H2O2 internally and also in baths. During that period I met several people who had recovered from so-called terminal cancer by using H2O2. Now I've just received a diagnosis of prostate cancer, and I'm trying to find a source for 35% H202. I used to order it from an outfit in Arizona, but I lost my H2O2 files during our last move and no longer have any addresses of suppliers. Also, what about DMSO? I've heard of it but know nothing about it. Where do you get it and how do you use it? My name is Bill s, and I'm new to this list, having come aboard only a few days ago when I was told, after a biopsy, that I have cancer. I am impressed by the fascinating and informative letters I've read so far on the list. Please keep up the good work. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2000 Report Share Posted October 24, 2000 At 04:03 PM 10/24/00 -0400, you wrote: ><< For research purposes only I would like to suggest the possibility of >the Peroxide (H2O2) and DMSO bath. Given that H202 kills cancer cells and >given hat DMSO could carry H2O2 into tissues and given that the skin is >the biggest organ, the question arises as to the effect of a hot water >bath containing H2O2 and DMSO In the late 80s I cured my body of a serious >infestation of candida by taking35% H2O2 internally and also in baths. >During that period I met several people >who had recovered from so-called terminal cancer by using H2O2. Now >I'vejust received a diagnosis of prostate cancer, and I'm trying to find a >sourcefor 35% H202. I used to order it from an outfit in Arizona, but I >lost myH2O2files during our last move and no longer have any addresses of >suppliers. >Also, what about DMSO? I've heard of it but know nothing about it. >Where do you get it and how do you use it? >My name is Bill s, and I'm new to this list, having come aboard >only a few days ago when I was told, after a biopsy, that I have cancer. >I am impressed by the fascinating and informative letters I've read so far >on the list. Please keep up the good work.Bill Hi Bill ! I can send you some food grade H2O2 it's very inexpensive. http://www.uniserve.com/life/life.htm Best wishes, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2000 Report Share Posted October 25, 2000 Hi Bill, I wanted to share www.hacres.com I have their testimonial video and there was a gentleman on the video who has no sign of prostate cancer after adopting the hallelujah diet. The diet follows the genesis diet of vegetables. Please check out this site. You will find many useful information. God Bless, _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2000 Report Share Posted October 25, 2000 Hi Ben, I wanted to share www.hacres.com I have their testimonial video and there was a gentleman on the video who has no sign of prostate cancer after adopting the hallelujah diet. The diet follows the genesis diet of vegetables. Please check out this site. You will find many useful information. God Bless, _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2001 Report Share Posted May 14, 2001 In a message dated 5/14/01 3:28:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: Amiodarone can have many side-effects but, like all medication, it affects different people in different ways. The most common effects are variation in thyroid functions (causing breathlessness, weight change), visual phosphates and photosensitivity. Many of these are reversible if the drug is stopped. It has also been known for amiodarone and toher anti-arrhythmics to cause arrhythmia but the doctor will monitor this. I found an unwritten side-effect of amiodarone is hypochondria. Whenever I started (200mg od, Feb 99), anything unusual I noticed I blamed on amiodarone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2001 Report Share Posted June 21, 2001 I 2nd that! GO GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : ) > GO GATORS!!!!!!!! > > Marie/Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2001 Report Share Posted June 21, 2001 That's worse than Tide!!!!! in GA Re: Digest Number 260 > I 2nd that! GO GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > : ) > > > > > GO GATORS!!!!!!!! > > > > Marie/Florida > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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