Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 In a message dated 07/06/2006 19:17:30 GMT Daylight Time, neno@... writes: We are currently SCD, never managed enzymes because of taste (ds just spits out anything 'suspicious' and too young for caps) - was hoping to add some non-SCD foods over summer, some complex carbs here and there... I guess HN-Zyme and Zime Prime would be the ones to try, what is the taste like? Any hope of getting them down a two-year old? >>>>Go for the Zyme Prime - they have no fruity enzymes and those are what makes them smell a bit. Niether taste much but the fruity ones smell. We started supps with Sam when he was 3 - I always gave them in a lidded cup so he couldn't see them, what the eye can't see and all that. Less smell escapes (they were only HN Zyme in those days). If child has already progressed from lidded cup then try a sports bottle with a big nozzle as the 'big boys cup'. To get enzymes to disperse well in juice/water first add them to a small amount of WARM water (not hot), fix the lid on and shake like crazy, then top up with cooled or iced water. Best to start enzymes and get settled out on them before you start challenging diet so you can tell if there are issues with the food or the enzyme. Some folks still need to remove certain foods - oranges/juice tomatoes seem common ones. Good luck let me know how you go Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Thanks for the tip. Is there any point in giving them IN the food. he still eats lots of mashed-up stuff so would be easy to hide - as long as no 'pukey' taste. Natasa > > > In a message dated 07/06/2006 19:17:30 GMT Daylight Time, > neno@... writes: > > We are currently SCD, never managed enzymes because of taste (ds just spits > out anything 'suspicious' and too young for caps) - was hoping to add some > non-SCD foods over summer, some complex carbs here and there... I guess HN-Zyme > and Zime Prime would be the ones to try, what is the taste like? Any hope > of getting them down a two-year old? > > > > >>>>Go for the Zyme Prime - they have no fruity enzymes and those are what > makes them smell a bit. Niether taste much but the fruity ones smell. > > We started supps with Sam when he was 3 - I always gave them in a lidded cup > so he couldn't see them, what the eye can't see and all that. Less smell > escapes (they were only HN Zyme in those days). If child has already progressed > from lidded cup then try a sports bottle with a big nozzle as the 'big boys > cup'. > > To get enzymes to disperse well in juice/water first add them to a small > amount of WARM water (not hot), fix the lid on and shake like crazy, then top up > with cooled or iced water. > > Best to start enzymes and get settled out on them before you start > challenging diet so you can tell if there are issues with the food or the enzyme. Some > folks still need to remove certain foods - oranges/juice tomatoes seem > common ones. > > Good luck let me know how you go > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Hi Natasa, Just to let you know my 24 month old's taste/texture/temperature sensitivies are high as well as his oral defensiveness. I gave him the Peptizyde AFP enzymes mixed in some yoghurt in a 20cc syringe (a big one) and he took them without problem. He is, however, used to having yoghurty stuff syringed into his mouth and we have a routine for it so he takes it. He would not take them in his milk AT ALL. I suspect this is because they started breaking down the milk immediately (especially since he drinks it warm) and he refused to drink it. Be careful though, by the second day he was completely a different child - going through all the classic symptoms of withdrawal. We were shocked, it was awful. Especially since we've not had any experience with regression before. Last night though I read the book from the University of Sunderland and some of McBride's GAPS book and I see that he was going through the classic signs of opiate withdrawal. Today (now that he's back to his milk-induced-opiate-hazed-compliant-tired self) I syringed him a tiny bit in heated apple juice (the powder dissolved nicely) and he did not discriminate the difference in flavour. Best of luck getting them down your little one. Obviously they are going to make a difference for , it's just a matter of mitigating the withdrawal. Take care, Darla In a message dated 07/06/2006 19:17:31 GMT Standard Time, neno@... writes: Hi Mandi, just remembered in one of your posts you mentioned tasteless enzymes - which ones were those?We are currently SCD, never managed enzymes because of taste (ds just spits out anything 'suspicious' and too young for caps) - was hoping to add some non-SCD foods over summer, some complex carbs here and there... I guess HN-Zyme and Zime Prime would be the ones to try, what is the taste like? Any hope of getting them down a two-year old?TIANatasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Good news, nice to hear he is responding to them! I am hopeful about hiding them in food, as long as the taste is not detectable he should be alright as he loves his food and still has most of it mashed up (bless him . The ones I tried before were by Kirkmans DPPIV, the taste was really pukey, very strong, no wonder he used to spit the whole lot out... Natasa > > > Hi Natasa, > Just to let you know my 24 month old's taste/texture/temperature sensitivies > are high as well as his oral defensiveness. I gave him the Peptizyde AFP > enzymes mixed in some yoghurt in a 20cc syringe (a big one) and he took them > without problem. He is, however, used to having yoghurty stuff syringed into > his mouth and we have a routine for it so he takes it. He would not take them > in his milk AT ALL. I suspect this is because they started breaking down the > milk immediately (especially since he drinks it warm) and he refused to drink > it. > > Be careful though, by the second day he was completely a different child - > going through all the classic symptoms of withdrawal. We were shocked, it was > awful. Especially since we've not had any experience with regression > before. Last night though I read the book from the University of Sunderland and > some of McBride's GAPS book and I see that he was going through the classic > signs of opiate withdrawal. > > Today (now that he's back to his milk-induced-opiate-hazed-compliant-tired > self) I syringed him a tiny bit in heated apple juice (the powder dissolved > nicely) and he did not discriminate the difference in flavour. > > Best of luck getting them down your little one. Obviously they are going to > make a difference for , it's just a matter of mitigating the withdrawal. > > Take care, > Darla > > In a message dated 07/06/2006 19:17:31 GMT Standard Time, > neno@... writes: > > Hi Mandi, just remembered in one of your posts you mentioned tasteless > enzymes - which ones were those? > > We are currently SCD, never managed enzymes because of taste (ds just spits > out anything 'suspicious' and too young for caps) - was hoping to add some > non-SCD foods over summer, some complex carbs here and there... I guess HN-Zyme > and Zime Prime would be the ones to try, what is the taste like? Any hope > of getting them down a two-year old? > > TIA > Natasa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Good news, nice to hear he is responding to them! I am hopeful about hiding them in food, as long as the taste is not detectable he should be alright as he loves his food and still has most of it mashed up (bless him . The ones I tried before were by Kirkmans DPPIV, the taste was really pukey, very strong, no wonder he used to spit the whole lot out... Natasa > > > Hi Natasa, > Just to let you know my 24 month old's taste/texture/temperature sensitivies > are high as well as his oral defensiveness. I gave him the Peptizyde AFP > enzymes mixed in some yoghurt in a 20cc syringe (a big one) and he took them > without problem. He is, however, used to having yoghurty stuff syringed into > his mouth and we have a routine for it so he takes it. He would not take them > in his milk AT ALL. I suspect this is because they started breaking down the > milk immediately (especially since he drinks it warm) and he refused to drink > it. > > Be careful though, by the second day he was completely a different child - > going through all the classic symptoms of withdrawal. We were shocked, it was > awful. Especially since we've not had any experience with regression > before. Last night though I read the book from the University of Sunderland and > some of McBride's GAPS book and I see that he was going through the classic > signs of opiate withdrawal. > > Today (now that he's back to his milk-induced-opiate-hazed-compliant-tired > self) I syringed him a tiny bit in heated apple juice (the powder dissolved > nicely) and he did not discriminate the difference in flavour. > > Best of luck getting them down your little one. Obviously they are going to > make a difference for , it's just a matter of mitigating the withdrawal. > > Take care, > Darla > > In a message dated 07/06/2006 19:17:31 GMT Standard Time, > neno@... writes: > > Hi Mandi, just remembered in one of your posts you mentioned tasteless > enzymes - which ones were those? > > We are currently SCD, never managed enzymes because of taste (ds just spits > out anything 'suspicious' and too young for caps) - was hoping to add some > non-SCD foods over summer, some complex carbs here and there... I guess HN-Zyme > and Zime Prime would be the ones to try, what is the taste like? Any hope > of getting them down a two-year old? > > TIA > Natasa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 In a message dated 09/06/2006 14:20:59 GMT Daylight Time, neno@... writes: Good news, nice to hear he is responding to them! I am hopeful abouthiding them in food, as long as the taste is not detectable he should bealright as he loves his food and still has most of it mashed up (blesshim . The ones I tried before were by Kirkmans DPPIV, the taste wasreally pukey, very strong, no wonder he used to spit the whole lotout... >>>>DDPIV rteally needs a braod range of proteases with it to get the food to s stage where the DPPIV is able to work...............which is why HNI put them with a protease blend and don;t sell them as a siingle supplement MAndi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 In a message dated 09/06/2006 14:20:59 GMT Daylight Time, neno@... writes: Good news, nice to hear he is responding to them! I am hopeful abouthiding them in food, as long as the taste is not detectable he should bealright as he loves his food and still has most of it mashed up (blesshim . The ones I tried before were by Kirkmans DPPIV, the taste wasreally pukey, very strong, no wonder he used to spit the whole lotout... >>>>DDPIV rteally needs a braod range of proteases with it to get the food to s stage where the DPPIV is able to work...............which is why HNI put them with a protease blend and don;t sell them as a siingle supplement MAndi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 > > > sprinkled in marmite sandwiches works for us. the strong flavour of > the marmite easuly overpowers the enzyme taste. Also as marmite is > oil based not water the enzymes do not start to work, they need water > for this i believe. > > Am I missing something? I thought Marmite was a total No No due to DGa in the yeast extract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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