Re: liver cleanse or colon cleanse?

[Guest guest]

For a detailed treatment of Phase I and phase II see the chapter

" Glutathione and Liver detoxification " from the book " Glutathione The

Ultimate Antioxidant " by Alan Pressman (soft cover). The book has a

liver function test scale. Lab tests can be taken to evaluate liver

function like a " functional liver detoxification profile " . An " oxidative

stress panel " is also mentioned as useful. Read the book, it is a great

work.

Supplements to support your liver :

C 2g

E 400IU

Mixed carotenes 20,000 IU

GSH (glutathione) 250 mg

NAC 100 mg

Lipoic acid 200 mg

Selenium 100 mcg

Zinc 15 mg

Silymarin 200-600 mg

Phase II problems: excessive fatigue, rashes, frequent colds, in the

long run at greater risk for cancer and autoimmune diseases.

Phase I problems: damage to neurological, endocrine, and immune systems.

The above was taken from Dr. Pressman's book " Glutathione "

Dennis

hyperbaroman@... wrote:

> Hi DL,

> Since no one here probably knows what you are talking about, can you

> please elaborate.-Like how does one know if they have a sub par phase

> one or phase two cycle and what can be done to " upregulate " .

>

> But first it would be helpful to know what is a sub par phase one or

> phase two cycle?

>

> Best Wishes,

> Hyperbaroman

>

> -- In oxyplus@y..., dl <dlipter@a...> wrote:

> > With all this talk about fasting and liver cleansing, not once have

> I

> > heard mentioned " phase one activation " and " phase two conjugation " .

> > These are two critical liver processes that deal with the

> neutralization

> > and elimination of toxins. Anybody thinking about fasting in my

> opinion

> > should learn about these two aspects of liver biochemistry and

> learn how

> > to support or " up regulate' these two functions if they are

> deficient.

> > If you fast with a sub par phase one or phase two cycleou will ,

> > real harm to yourself, more so than if you do not fast. We have

> come a

> > long way since the days of Herbert Shelton whose ideas are outdated

> and

> > dangerous if followed without knowledge of the importance of the

> > liver/fasting connection. Yes fasting can be useful, but only after

> one

> > has seen to it that the liver is properly supported so it can

> handle the

> > release of dangerous toxins that a fast can bring on.

> >

> > Dennis Lipter

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi DL,

Thanks for the info. I've been taking 560 mg of silymarin a day. I

read that can double glutathione production in the liver.

Hyperbaroman

) 250 -- In oxyplus@y..., dl <dlipter@a...> wrote:

> For a detailed treatment of Phase I and phase II see the chapter

> " Glutathione and Liver detoxification " from the book " Glutathione

The

> Ultimate Antioxidant " by Alan Pressman (soft cover). The book has a

> liver function test scale. Lab tests can be taken to evaluate liver

> function like a " functional liver detoxification profile " .

An " oxidative

> stress panel " is also mentioned as useful. Read the book, it is a

great

> work.

>

> Supplements to support your liver :

>

> C 2g

> E 400IU

> Mixed carotenes 20,000 IU

> GSH (glutathione) 250 mg

> NAC 100 mg

> Lipoic acid 200 mg

> Selenium 100 mcg

> Zinc 15 mg

> Silymarin 200-600 mg

>

> Phase II problems: excessive fatigue, rashes, frequent colds, in the

> long run at greater risk for cancer and autoimmune diseases.

>

> Phase I problems: damage to neurological, endocrine, and immune

systems.

>

> The above was taken from Dr. Pressman's book " Glutathione "

>

> Dennis

>

> hyperbaroman@h... wrote:

>

> > Hi DL,

> > Since no one here probably knows what you are talking about, can

you

> > please elaborate.-Like how does one know if they have a sub par

phase

> > one or phase two cycle and what can be done to " upregulate " .

> >

> > But first it would be helpful to know what is a sub par phase one

or

> > phase two cycle?

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Hyperbaroman

> >

> > -- In oxyplus@y..., dl <dlipter@a...> wrote:

> > > With all this talk about fasting and liver cleansing, not once

have

> > I

> > > heard mentioned " phase one activation " and " phase two

conjugation " .

> > > These are two critical liver processes that deal with the

> > neutralization

> > > and elimination of toxins. Anybody thinking about fasting in my

> > opinion

> > > should learn about these two aspects of liver biochemistry and

> > learn how

> > > to support or " up regulate' these two functions if they are

> > deficient.

> > > If you fast with a sub par phase one or phase two cycleou will ,

> > > real harm to yourself, more so than if you do not fast. We have

> > come a

> > > long way since the days of Herbert Shelton whose ideas are

outdated

> > and

> > > dangerous if followed without knowledge of the importance of the

> > > liver/fasting connection. Yes fasting can be useful, but only

after

> > one

> > > has seen to it that the liver is properly supported so it can

> > handle the

> > > release of dangerous toxins that a fast can bring on.

> > >

> > > Dennis Lipter

> >

> >

> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative

therapies, and

> > other alternative self-help subjects.

> >

> > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> >

> > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find

> > here are for information and research purposes only. We are

people

> > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found

here, you

> > do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common

> > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own

actions. By

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[Guest guest]

Dear ,

The key to having a successful liver cleanse is doing all the Epsom salts.

They open the liver channels and ensure that no blockage of the channels or

ducts will occur. Some people have reported passing stones the size of

Brazil nuts, which are damn big! So the danger is remote in reality, as

long as all the Epsom salts is done. People that cut back on the Epsom salts

are not doing themselves any favors.

I have personally recommended about 2000 people to do liver cleanses in the

last eight years, and have never had anyone report anything other than

relief and renewed energy after they had succeeded in passing stones.

Occasionally people don't get anything the first, or even the second time,

because their liver is so plugged. People with chronic constipation are most

likely to have this problem (and vice versa). Bile causes peristalsis.

Plugged liver = no bile = no peristalsis = no bowel movements.

The liver is the largest internal organ, typically weighing a pound or more.

It is composed of thousands of channels that filter the blood passing

through. That is why it can have 2000 stones in it and still function (after

a fashion). The liver produces cholesterol, and traps any particles that are

in the blood in cholesterol and holds them in the channels. More layers of

cholesterol are added, building up the size of the lump, forming a waxy

'stone'. When autopsied, these concentric rings of built up cholesterol can

be seen, looking just like a hailstone.

The easiest, cheapest and most beneficial health practice a person can have

is twice-yearly liver cleanses.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

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From: Blair <lblair@...>

Reply-oxyplus

oxyplus

Subject: Re: liver cleanse or colon cleanse?

Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:40:23 -0600

I had an ND tell me liver-gallbladder flushes were dangerous because if a

large stone tried to come out and got stuck it could be life threatening.

This is the first time I have heard this. I would love to hear some of your

opinions on this. Thanks :-)

Saul Pressman wrote:

> Dear lucky,

>

> The stones from the liver are solidifed cholesterol, encapsulating

> a bacteria or a parasite or some undigested food material. They are most

> commonly green, or yellowy green. I have never heard of them being black.

> You should probably do the liver cleanse again in two - three weeks.

>

> The grapefruit acts as an emulsifier, and the olive oil as a mechanical

> flush agent through the open liver channels.

>

> If you do a colon cleanse first and then a liver cleanse after, you will

see

> that there are marked differences in what is released.

>

> Best of Health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH.

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

> From: luckower@...

> Reply-oxyplus

> oxyplus

> Subject: liver cleanse or colon cleanse?

> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:25:03 EDT

>

> i have followed the liver cleanse to a tee, and here are some

observations.

> i

> have been passing what some people refer to as 'stones' but i am pretty

sure

> these are not from my liver! i have been colon cleansing long enough to

know

> at least what the stuff looks like that comes out of my colon. and this

> stuff

> is definitely from my colon. i'm thinking that the grapefruit acts as a

> cleanser (being acidic) and the olive oil as a lubricant which makes the

> pieces separate and look like stones. most of them are brown or black. a

few

> were lighter colored, but i have seen this before in colon cleansing. so

i

> have to question every single one of you who has posted about this

supposed

> liver cleanse. and of course after a god colon cleanse you will feel

better

> and digestion will improve. so someone please PROVE to me that this is

> indeed

> a LIVER cleanse and not a colon cleanse.

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Dennis,

Can you elaborate a little more on this idea of the Phase I and Phase II

pathways of the liver?

First of all, how can one find out if they are deficient, as you stated?

Second, how can one find out how to support or " upregulate " these two

functions?

Re: liver cleanse or colon cleanse?

> With all this talk about fasting and liver cleansing, not once have I

> heard mentioned " phase one activation " and " phase two conjugation " .

> These are two critical liver processes that deal with the neutralization

> and elimination of toxins. Anybody thinking about fasting in my opinion

> should learn about these two aspects of liver biochemistry and learn how

> to support or " up regulate' these two functions if they are deficient.

> If you fast with a sub par phase one or phase two cycle, you will do

> real harm to yourself, more so than if you do not fast. We have come a

> long way since the days of Herbert Shelton whose ideas are outdated and

> dangerous if followed without knowledge of the importance of the

> liver/fasting connection. Yes fasting can be useful, but only after one

> has seen to it that the liver is properly supported so it can handle the

> release of dangerous toxins that a fast can bring on.

>

> Dennis Lipter

[Guest guest]

Hi Dennis,

Can you elaborate a little more on this idea of the Phase I and Phase II

pathways of the liver?

First of all, how can one find out if they are deficient, as you stated?

Second, how can one find out how to support or " upregulate " these two

functions?

Re: liver cleanse or colon cleanse?

> With all this talk about fasting and liver cleansing, not once have I

> heard mentioned " phase one activation " and " phase two conjugation " .

> These are two critical liver processes that deal with the neutralization

> and elimination of toxins. Anybody thinking about fasting in my opinion

> should learn about these two aspects of liver biochemistry and learn how

> to support or " up regulate' these two functions if they are deficient.

> If you fast with a sub par phase one or phase two cycle, you will do

> real harm to yourself, more so than if you do not fast. We have come a

> long way since the days of Herbert Shelton whose ideas are outdated and

> dangerous if followed without knowledge of the importance of the

> liver/fasting connection. Yes fasting can be useful, but only after one

> has seen to it that the liver is properly supported so it can handle the

> release of dangerous toxins that a fast can bring on.

>

> Dennis Lipter

[Guest guest]

Hi Dennis,

Can you elaborate a little more on this idea of the Phase I and Phase II

pathways of the liver?

First of all, how can one find out if they are deficient, as you stated?

Second, how can one find out how to support or " upregulate " these two

functions?

Re: liver cleanse or colon cleanse?

> With all this talk about fasting and liver cleansing, not once have I

> heard mentioned " phase one activation " and " phase two conjugation " .

> These are two critical liver processes that deal with the neutralization

> and elimination of toxins. Anybody thinking about fasting in my opinion

> should learn about these two aspects of liver biochemistry and learn how

> to support or " up regulate' these two functions if they are deficient.

> If you fast with a sub par phase one or phase two cycle, you will do

> real harm to yourself, more so than if you do not fast. We have come a

> long way since the days of Herbert Shelton whose ideas are outdated and

> dangerous if followed without knowledge of the importance of the

> liver/fasting connection. Yes fasting can be useful, but only after one

> has seen to it that the liver is properly supported so it can handle the

> release of dangerous toxins that a fast can bring on.

>

> Dennis Lipter

[Guest guest]

Sorry for the redundancy--I missed this letter. I'll get the book.

Patty

Re: Re: liver cleanse or colon cleanse?

> For a detailed treatment of Phase I and phase II see the chapter

> " Glutathione and Liver detoxification " from the book " Glutathione The

> Ultimate Antioxidant " by Alan Pressman (soft cover). The book has a

> liver function test scale. Lab tests can be taken to evaluate liver

> function like a " functional liver detoxification profile " . An " oxidative

> stress panel " is also mentioned as useful. Read the book, it is a great

> work.

>

> Supplements to support your liver :

>

> C 2g

> E 400IU

> Mixed carotenes 20,000 IU

> GSH (glutathione) 250 mg

> NAC 100 mg

> Lipoic acid 200 mg

> Selenium 100 mcg

> Zinc 15 mg

> Silymarin 200-600 mg

>

> Phase II problems: excessive fatigue, rashes, frequent colds, in the

> long run at greater risk for cancer and autoimmune diseases.

>

> Phase I problems: damage to neurological, endocrine, and immune systems.

>

> The above was taken from Dr. Pressman's book " Glutathione "

>

> Dennis