Behavior Based Toilet Training Program (was New Here with question about potty training)

November 28, 2006

Hi~

I'm a single mom of 6yr old twin boys that have been potty trained for less than a year. We still have bowel movement accidents periodically, but the peeing is pretty much under control. Below is the program we used very successfully. Brenden was trained in 3-4wks and Logan :-) in 2wks. It took us longer to figure things out with Brenden. We took away his favorite things and kept them in the bathroom and once we put up a shelf in front of the toilet about 6ft high with a jar of candy, we were able to keep him motivated. The program is pretty intense, but it works.

Brenden sleeps through the night and stays completely dry, and occassionally, if Logan is REALLY in to what he's doing, he will have a pee accident.

Anyway, feel free to email me privately if you have any questions or would like to have an online pen pal.

Good luck!Shanel

Mom of Logan & Brenden

Dx'd 2004

Behavior Based Toilet Training Program

*based on the books "Toilet Training children with disabilities" and "Toilet Training In Less Than A Day" by H. Azrin, Ph.D. and M. Foxx, Ph.D.

What is needed to get started:-Plan to devote a whole weekend.

-Be sure to purchase LOTS of cotton underwear (in characters they will be excited about.)

-Use the big potty with an insert and a step stool if needed

On the first day of the weekend:

-Start day 1 in underwear. No more diapers.

-Push a lot of fluids to make him go often.

-Do "dry or wet" checks every 5 minutes...hand on his underwear asking him "Are you wet or dry?" and if verbal, prompt him with the correct answer.

-Dry is rewarded with a small reinforcer ("good being dry") hopefully edibles to make him more thirsty.

-Wet, you say "Oh no, you're wet. You potty in the potty". Very straight face, letting him know you're serious.

Correction procedure/positive practice

1. take them to the potty,

2. pull wet pants down,

3. sit on potty for just a second,

4. pull wet pants back up,

5. go back to location of "accident"

*Repeat the correction procedure up to 5 times then put on dry underwear.

Your child may be upset during the first day of using this procedure.

- Make a chart to note each dry/wet check, each time they sit on the potty and if they do anything while they are on the potty.

- When the child wakes up take them to the potty first thing and have them sit down. Take off the night diaper and throw it away and say “no more diapers”. Talk about how good it feels to be dry.

- At 15-minute intervals take the child to the potty (depending on how many accidents you're having while pushing fluids you could extend to 30 minutes).

- Say it’s "Time to potty" and he sits on potty. Have them sit only for a few minutes. "

NOTE: You might need a small reinforcer for just sitting on potty.

- If anything happens, even a little, HUGE POTTY PARTY and reinforcers only for that party. Buy some new toys they will really like. They are allowed to play with them ONLY at the potty party.

- Expect that they will tantrum when it was time to leave the potty reinforcer and keep telling him "only when you potty. It may take a special reinforcer to get the BMs down. (i.e. TV/VCR in the bathroom with a special "potty only video")

- Use pull-ups at night at first.

New Here with question about potty training

Hello everyone! I am new to the board. I am a single mom of an 8 year old son who has a DX of autism, MR, speech delay, ADHD. Logan had his DX at the age of 2, so I have been dealing with issues associated with the autism and other delays for 6 years. I feel I have done a fairly good job up until this point! I worked very hard with Logan to get him semi-potty trained and it worked for a while. Logan was peeing in the potty consistently, but never used the potty for a bowel movement. Now, Logan is back to peeing his pants and still refuses to use the potty for a bowel movement. When I ask him where he is suppose to pee or poop, he says "in the toilet" - so he has the concept down and has the understanding of what to do and where to do it.I need HELP! Logan is 8 years old, has the concept down and KNOWS when he has to go - what do I do now???????? He NEEDS to be completely trained! why do we keep going back to

peeing our pants and having to train all over again???? Any ideas??

January 9, 2007

Beaumont in Royal Oak, Michigan, provides Toilet Learning Clinics for families of children with developmental disabilities, as well as typically developing children. The program teaches the child how to use the toilet in a 7 hour clinic offered on Fridays. I've heard that its a great program, at least worth looking into. Good Luck.Shanel Tarrant-Simone <simoneboys@...> wrote: Hi~ I'm a single mom of 6yr old twin boys that have been potty trained for less than a year. We still have bowel movement accidents periodically, but the peeing is pretty much under control. Below is the program we used very successfully. Brenden was trained in 3-4wks and Logan :-) in 2wks. It took us longer to figure things out with Brenden. We took away his favorite things and kept them in the bathroom and once we put up a shelf in front of the toilet about 6ft high with a jar of candy, we were able to keep him motivated. The program is pretty intense, but it works. Brenden

sleeps through the night and stays completely dry, and occassionally, if Logan is REALLY in to what he's doing, he will have a pee accident. Anyway, feel free to email me privately if you have any questions or would like to have an online pen pal. Good luck!Shanel Mom of Logan & Brenden Dx'd 2004 Behavior Based Toilet

Training Program *based on the books "Toilet Training children with disabilities" and "Toilet Training In Less Than A Day" by H. Azrin, Ph.D. and M. Foxx, Ph.D. What is needed to get started:-Plan to devote a whole weekend. -Be sure to purchase LOTS of cotton underwear (in characters they will be excited about.) -Use the big potty with an insert and a step stool if needed On the first day of the weekend: -Start day 1 in underwear. No more diapers. -Push a lot of fluids to make him go often. -Do "dry or wet" checks every 5 minutes...hand on his underwear asking him "Are you wet or

dry?" and if verbal, prompt him with the correct answer. -Dry is rewarded with a small reinforcer ("good being dry") hopefully edibles to make him more thirsty. -Wet, you say "Oh no, you're wet. You potty in the potty". Very straight face, letting him know you're serious. Correction procedure/positive practice 1. take them to the potty, 2. pull wet pants down, 3. sit on potty for just a

second, 4. pull wet pants back up, 5. go back to location of "accident" *Repeat the correction procedure up to 5 times then put on dry underwear. Your child may be upset during the first day of using this procedure. - Make a chart to note each dry/wet check, each time they sit on the potty and if they do anything while they are on the

potty. - When the child wakes up take them to the potty first thing and have them sit down. Take off the night diaper and throw it away and say “no more diapers”. Talk about how good it feels to be dry. - At 15-minute intervals take the child to the potty (depending on how many accidents you're having while pushing fluids you could extend to 30 minutes). - Say it’s "Time to potty" and he sits on potty. Have them sit only for a few minutes. " NOTE: You might need a small reinforcer for just sitting on potty. - If anything happens, even a little, HUGE POTTY PARTY and reinforcers only for that party. Buy some new toys they will really like. They are allowed to play with them ONLY at the potty party. - Expect that they will tantrum when it was time to leave the potty reinforcer and keep telling him "only when you potty. It may take a special reinforcer to get the BMs down. (i.e. TV/VCR in the bathroom with a special "potty only video") - Use pull-ups at night at first. New Here with question about potty training Hello everyone! I am new to the board. I am a single mom of an 8 year old son who has a DX of autism, MR, speech delay, ADHD. Logan had his DX at the age of 2, so I have been dealing with issues associated with the autism and other delays for 6 years. I feel I

have done a fairly good job up until this point! I worked very hard with Logan to get him semi-potty trained and it worked for a while. Logan was peeing in the potty consistently, but never used the potty for a bowel movement. Now, Logan is back to peeing his pants and still refuses to use the potty for a bowel movement. When I ask him where he is suppose to pee or poop, he says "in the toilet" - so he has the concept down and has the understanding of what to do and where to do it.I need HELP! Logan is 8 years old, has the concept down and KNOWS when he has to go - what do I do now???????? He NEEDS to be completely trained! why do we keep going back to peeing our pants and having to train all over again???? Any ideas?? __________________________________________________

January 11, 2007

Well,I think if you've found a way that works and you understand that there will

be " accidents " and not make a major issue out of them then things can get back

on track.Our kids being so different ,some kids do learn so many things to the

point that they become " automated " for them rather than having to " register " and

sequence what comes next.Sensory issues I think have alot to do with things like

being able to toilet themselves.

Stacey

From: <cynthia343@...>

Date: 2007/01/10 Wed AM 06:14:39 CST

autism

Subject: Re: Behavior Based Toilet Training Program (was New Here

with question about potty training)

Blake is 15 yrs. now, but at 11 puberty hit hard. We are now back in diapers.

Your going to be going back and forth for the rest of his life.

sara barnett <appleblossom_dreamer@...> wrote: Beaumont in Royal

Oak, Michigan, provides Toilet Learning Clinics for families of children with

developmental disabilities, as well as typically developing children. The

program teaches the child how to use the toilet in a 7 hour clinic offered on

Fridays. I've heard that its a great program, at least worth looking into. Good

Luck.

Shanel Tarrant-Simone <simoneboys@...> wrote: Hi~ I'm a

single mom of 6yr old twin boys that have been potty trained for less than a

year. We still have bowel movement accidents periodically, but the peeing is

pretty much under control. Below is the program we used very successfully.

Brenden was trained in 3-4wks and Logan :-) in 2wks. It took us longer to

figure things out with Brenden. We took away his favorite things and kept them

in the bathroom and once we put up a shelf in front of the toilet about 6ft high

with a jar of candy, we were able to keep him motivated. The program is pretty

intense, but it works. Brenden sleeps through the night and stays

completely dry, and occassionally, if Logan is REALLY in to what he's doing, he

will have a pee accident.

Anyway, feel free to email me privately if you have any questions or would like

to have an online pen pal. Good luck!

Shanel Mom of Logan & Brenden Dx'd 2004</DIV> <DIV style= " FONT-SIZE:

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needed to get started:

-Plan to devote a whole weekend. -Be sure to purchase LOTS of cotton underwear

(in characters they will be excited about.) -Use the big potty with an insert

and a step stool if needed On the first day of the weekend: -Start day 1 in

underwear. No more diapers. -Push a lot of fluids to make him go often.

-Do " dry or wet " checks every 5 minutes...hand on his underwear asking him " Are

you wet or dry? " and if verbal, prompt him with the correct answer. -Dry is

rewarded with a small reinforcer ( " good being dry " ) hopefully edibles to make

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style= " FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Narrow'; " ><FONT size= " 3 " >Make a chart to note each

dry/wet check, each time they sit on the potty and if they do anything while

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Narrow'; " ><FONT size= " 3 " > <O></O></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV class= " MsoNormal "

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size= " 3 " >When the child wakes up take them to the potty first thing and have

them sit down. Take off the night diaper and throw it away and say “no more

diapers”. Talk about how good it feels to be dry. - At 15-minute

intervals take the child to the potty (depending on how many accidents you're

having while pushing fluids you could extend to 30 minutes).

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Roman " ><FONT size= " 3 " >-</FONT><SPAN style= " FONT: 7pt 'Times New

Roman'; " > Say it’s " Time to potty " and he sits on potty. Have them sit

only for a few minutes. " <O></O></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV class= " MsoNormal "

style= " FONT-SIZE: 10pt;TEXT-INDENT: 0.25in;FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica,

sans-serif; " ><SPAN style= " FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Narrow'; " ><FONT size= " 3 " >NOTE:

You might need a small reinforcer for just sitting on

potty.<O></O></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV class= " MsoNormal " style= " FONT-SIZE:

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style= " FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'; " > </SPAN></FONT><SPAN

style= " FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Narrow'; " ><FONT size= " 3 " >If anything happens, even a

little, HUGE POTTY PARTY and reinforcers only for that party. Buy some new toys

they will really like. They are allowed to play with them ONLY at the potty

party. - Expect that they will tantrum when it was time to leave

the potty reinforcer and keep telling him " only when you potty. It

may take a special reinforcer to get the BMs down. (i.e. TV/VCR in the

bathroom with a special " potty only video " )<O></O></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV

class= " MsoNormal " style= " FONT-SIZE: 10pt;FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica,

sans-serif; " > - Use pull-ups at night at first.

New Here with question about potty training

Hello everyone! I am new to the board. I am a single mom of an 8

year old son who has a DX of autism, MR, speech delay, ADHD. Logan

had his DX at the age of 2, so I have been dealing with issues

associated with the autism and other delays for 6 years. I feel I

have done a fairly good job up until this point! I worked very hard

with Logan to get him semi-potty trained and it worked for a while.

Logan was peeing in the potty consistently, but never used the potty

for a bowel movement. Now, Logan is back to peeing his pants and still

refuses to use the potty for a bowel movement. When I ask him where

he is suppose to pee or poop, he says " in the toilet " - so he has the

concept down and has the understanding of what to do and where to do

it.

I need HELP! Logan is 8 years old, has the concept down and KNOWS

when he has to go - what do I do now???????? He NEEDS to be

completely trained! why do we keep going back to peeing our pants and

having to train all over again???? Any ideas??

__________________________________________________

January 20, 2007

My soon to be 13 year old still wets the bed at night, he saturates

through a super absorbent depends pant. He was trained daytime at

age 5 using a method similar to the one Shanel used. I'm at a loss

as to what to do for nighttime (I'm soooo tired of washing sheets

just about every day) and also does anyone have a good method on

teaching kids how to wipe after a bm? There's usually a mess with

that too, although at least he does use the toilet. That began after

two weeks of neurofeedback when he was 6. I also found that

chelation causes excessive peeing and some leakage during the daytime.

Hi~

>

> I'm a single mom of 6yr old twin boys that have been potty

trained for less than a year. We still have bowel movement accidents

periodically, but the peeing is pretty much under control. Below is

the program we used very successfully. Brenden was trained in 3-4wks

and Logan :-) in 2wks. It took us longer to figure things out with

Brenden. We took away his favorite things and kept them in the

bathroom and once we put up a shelf in front of the toilet about 6ft

high with a jar of candy, we were able to keep him motivated. The

program is pretty intense, but it works.

>

> Brenden sleeps through the night and stays completely dry, and

occassionally, if Logan is REALLY in to what he's doing, he will have

a pee accident.

>

> Anyway, feel free to email me privately if you have any questions

or would like to have an online pen pal.

>

> Good luck!

> Shanel

> Mom of Logan & Brenden

> Dx'd 2004

>

> Behavior Based Toilet Training Program

>

> *based on the books " Toilet Training children with disabilities "

and " Toilet Training In Less Than A Day " by H. Azrin, Ph.D.

and M. Foxx, Ph.D.

>

> What is needed to get started:

> -Plan to devote a whole weekend.

> -Be sure to purchase LOTS of cotton underwear (in characters they

will be excited about.)

> -Use the big potty with an insert and a step stool if needed

>

> On the first day of the weekend:

> -Start day 1 in underwear. No more diapers.

> -Push a lot of fluids to make him go often.

> -Do " dry or wet " checks every 5 minutes...hand on his underwear

asking him " Are you wet or dry? " and if verbal, prompt him with the

correct answer.

> & shy;-Dry is rewarded with a small reinforcer ( " good being dry " )

hopefully edibles to make him more thirsty.

>

> -Wet, you say " Oh no, you're wet. You potty in the potty " . Very

straight face, letting him know you're serious.

>

> Correction procedure/positive practice

> 1. take them to the potty,

> 2. pull wet pants down,

> 3. sit on potty for just a second,

> 4. pull wet pants back up,

> 5. go back to location of " accident "

>

> *Repeat the correction procedure up to 5 times then put on dry

underwear.

>

> Your child may be upset during the first day of using this

procedure.

>

> - Make a chart to note each dry/wet check, each time they

sit on the potty and if they do anything while they are on the

potty.

> - When the child wakes up take them to the potty first

thing and have them sit down. Take off the night diaper and throw it

away and say " no more diapers " . Talk about how good it feels to be

dry.

> - At 15-minute intervals take the child to the

potty (depending on how many accidents you're having while pushing

fluids you could extend to 30 minutes).

> - Say it's " Time to potty " and he sits on potty.

Have them sit only for a few minutes. "

> NOTE: You might need a small reinforcer for just sitting on potty.

>

> - If anything happens, even a little, HUGE POTTY PARTY

and reinforcers only for that party. Buy some new toys they will

really like. They are allowed to play with them ONLY at the potty

party.

> - Expect that they will tantrum when it was time to

leave the potty reinforcer and keep telling him " only when you potty.

It may take a special reinforcer to get the BMs down.

(i.e. TV/VCR in the bathroom with a special " potty only video " )

>

> - Use pull-ups at night at first.

>

> New Here with question about potty training

>

> Hello everyone! I am new to the board. I am a single mom of an

8

> year old son who has a DX of autism, MR, speech delay, ADHD. Logan

> had his DX at the age of 2, so I have been dealing with issues

> associated with the autism and other delays for 6 years. I feel I

> have done a fairly good job up until this point! I worked very hard

> with Logan to get him semi-potty trained and it worked for a while.

> Logan was peeing in the potty consistently, but never used the

potty

> for a bowel movement. Now, Logan is back to peeing his pants and

still

> refuses to use the potty for a bowel movement. When I ask him where

> he is suppose to pee or poop, he says " in the toilet " - so he has

the

> concept down and has the understanding of what to do and where to

do

> it.

>

> I need HELP! Logan is 8 years old, has the concept down and KNOWS

> when he has to go - what do I do now???????? He NEEDS to be

> completely trained! why do we keep going back to peeing our pants

and

> having to train all over again???? Any ideas??

>

> __________________________________________________

>

January 20, 2007