Re: Anyone taking rectal ozone?

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my thoughts on candida are: clean your colon. i would stay away from a

prescription anti-fungal. read bernard jensen's book 'tissue cleansing

through bowel management'. look at the horrible pictures and understand how

filthy the colon can be. then realize how absurd it is to use prescription

anti-fungals. the raw meat, fat, and veggie diet is the most cleansing thing

i have experienced so far. it is amazing. IF you can withstand the detoxing

reactions which can be fierce. i have recently started with ozone saunas and

definitely notice an overall improvement in symptoms, but my main thing is

getting that colon cleared out. but i have never tried rectal ozone. anything

that gets your immune system working better in general would be a good thing.

using nystatin is like spitting on a forrest fire.

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Hello, I'm using o3 rectal insufflation for HCV. I did it several years

ago to acheive normal liver function after about 100 or more treatments.

I expect this time will take at least as long, because I let hings go

longer than I should have, but I do expect positive results.

Your Dr. is probably right. You have to hang in there.

After doing the math, I had to buy my own gen. to continue though.

I think doses of oral H202 is a good adjunct as well for Candida.

You are welcome to email me if you want, or ask here, if you have more

questions; it's okay either way for me.

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And of course, with the cleansing, be sure to throw in

plenty of the good bacteria, so that when you chase the

bad varmints out, you'll have some good settlers moving

in. Out with the bad, in with the good.

Nystantin powder (just a teensy bit) has done a great

thing for my sinuses when used with a little warm

water in a neti pot rinse.

jp

Re: Anyone taking rectal ozone?

my thoughts on candida are: clean your colon. i would stay away from a

prescription anti-fungal. read bernard jensen's book 'tissue cleansing

through bowel management'. look at the horrible pictures and understand how

filthy the colon can be. then realize how absurd it is to use prescription

anti-fungals. the raw meat, fat, and veggie diet is the most cleansing thing

i have experienced so far. it is amazing. IF you can withstand the detoxing

reactions which can be fierce. i have recently started with ozone saunas and

definitely notice an overall improvement in symptoms, but my main thing is

getting that colon cleared out. but i have never tried rectal ozone. anything

that gets your immune system working better in general would be a good thing.

using nystatin is like spitting on a forrest fire.

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<<The effects after three months are minor if any, although my physician is

absolutely convinced that with time, the effects will be trremendous and

more long lasting than any other treatment for Candida. Thoughts?>>

I applaud the doctor. He's correct but check his technique. Sounds like

you're getting high volume. The flow should be very low and the treatment

long -- say 20-30 minutes. Filling a person with the gas, which doesn't

contain a lot of ozone, just doesn't cut it like long exposure does.

Also, Dr. Donsbach would also use intravenous peroxide, about 10 sessions,

administered in a bag of saline solution. Perhaps your doctor would like to

know that.

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<<The effects after three months are minor if any, although my physician is

absolutely convinced that with time, the effects will be trremendous and

more long lasting than any other treatment for Candida. Thoughts?>>

I applaud the doctor. He's correct but check his technique. Sounds like

you're getting high volume. The flow should be very low and the treatment

long -- say 20-30 minutes. Filling a person with the gas, which doesn't

contain a lot of ozone, just doesn't cut it like long exposure does.

Also, Dr. Donsbach would also use intravenous peroxide, about 10 sessions,

administered in a bag of saline solution. Perhaps your doctor would like to

know that.

ciao

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<<The effects after three months are minor if any, although my physician is

absolutely convinced that with time, the effects will be trremendous and

more long lasting than any other treatment for Candida. Thoughts?>>

I applaud the doctor. He's correct but check his technique. Sounds like

you're getting high volume. The flow should be very low and the treatment

long -- say 20-30 minutes. Filling a person with the gas, which doesn't

contain a lot of ozone, just doesn't cut it like long exposure does.

Also, Dr. Donsbach would also use intravenous peroxide, about 10 sessions,

administered in a bag of saline solution. Perhaps your doctor would like to

know that.

ciao

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You can email me directly. I've both done it myself and we have prescribed it

for

home use...I'll be glad to talk to you about it objectively since I've built

generators

in the past, and am a German Certified Ozone Trainer, some 6 years now.

Dr.Carolyn Bormann

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drm21799@... wrote:

> I'd like to hear from others with experience with rectal ozone. I'm

> up to the highest concentration now and can barely retain it long

> enough to get to the doctor's restroom. I feel like I'm wasting my

> money. The effects after three months are minor if any, although my

> physician is absolutely convinced that with time, the effects will be

> trremendous and more long lasting than any other treatment for

> Candida. He also gives me several enzymes and supplements. I've not

> been able to find anyone to talk with about the ozone although I've

> read a couple of book passages on it. I've got an appointment with

> Dr. Resseger in Norwalk, OH in a couple of weeks for a second opinion

> and may ask for prescription antifungals. Thoughts?

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are

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[Guest guest]

You can email me directly. I've both done it myself and we have prescribed it

for

home use...I'll be glad to talk to you about it objectively since I've built

generators

in the past, and am a German Certified Ozone Trainer, some 6 years now.

Dr.Carolyn Bormann

******************

drm21799@... wrote:

> I'd like to hear from others with experience with rectal ozone. I'm

> up to the highest concentration now and can barely retain it long

> enough to get to the doctor's restroom. I feel like I'm wasting my

> money. The effects after three months are minor if any, although my

> physician is absolutely convinced that with time, the effects will be

> trremendous and more long lasting than any other treatment for

> Candida. He also gives me several enzymes and supplements. I've not

> been able to find anyone to talk with about the ozone although I've

> read a couple of book passages on it. I've got an appointment with

> Dr. Resseger in Norwalk, OH in a couple of weeks for a second opinion

> and may ask for prescription antifungals. Thoughts?

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are

for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information

we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk.

Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take

responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold

yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here

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Dear drm,

You shouldn't need to go to the rest room after

rectal insufflation. The fact that you do tells

me you have not done an enema before hand. If that

is so, you truly have been wasting your money.

The preparatory enema is not optional, it is mandatory.

A piece of fecal material the size of your thumbnail

will take ozone a month to break down, at the rates

you are doing it.

What concentration are you doing it at, and for how long?

From your post, I am not optimistic that you have the best

protocol there. It would not be surprising that you get poor

results.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

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Subject: Anyone taking rectal ozone?

Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 20:04:06 -0000

I'd like to hear from others with experience with rectal ozone. I'm

up to the highest concentration now and can barely retain it long

enough to get to the doctor's restroom. I feel like I'm wasting my

money. The effects after three months are minor if any, although my

physician is absolutely convinced that with time, the effects will be

trremendous and more long lasting than any other treatment for

Candida. He also gives me several enzymes and supplements. I've not

been able to find anyone to talk with about the ozone although I've

read a couple of book passages on it. I've got an appointment with

Dr. Resseger in Norwalk, OH in a couple of weeks for a second opinion

and may ask for prescription antifungals. Thoughts?

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Dear drm,

You shouldn't need to go to the rest room after

rectal insufflation. The fact that you do tells

me you have not done an enema before hand. If that

is so, you truly have been wasting your money.

The preparatory enema is not optional, it is mandatory.

A piece of fecal material the size of your thumbnail

will take ozone a month to break down, at the rates

you are doing it.

What concentration are you doing it at, and for how long?

From your post, I am not optimistic that you have the best

protocol there. It would not be surprising that you get poor

results.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

--------------------------------------------------------------

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Subject: Anyone taking rectal ozone?

Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 20:04:06 -0000

I'd like to hear from others with experience with rectal ozone. I'm

up to the highest concentration now and can barely retain it long

enough to get to the doctor's restroom. I feel like I'm wasting my

money. The effects after three months are minor if any, although my

physician is absolutely convinced that with time, the effects will be

trremendous and more long lasting than any other treatment for

Candida. He also gives me several enzymes and supplements. I've not

been able to find anyone to talk with about the ozone although I've

read a couple of book passages on it. I've got an appointment with

Dr. Resseger in Norwalk, OH in a couple of weeks for a second opinion

and may ask for prescription antifungals. Thoughts?

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Dear drm,

You shouldn't need to go to the rest room after

rectal insufflation. The fact that you do tells

me you have not done an enema before hand. If that

is so, you truly have been wasting your money.

The preparatory enema is not optional, it is mandatory.

A piece of fecal material the size of your thumbnail

will take ozone a month to break down, at the rates

you are doing it.

What concentration are you doing it at, and for how long?

From your post, I am not optimistic that you have the best

protocol there. It would not be surprising that you get poor

results.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

--------------------------------------------------------------

From: drm21799@...

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Subject: Anyone taking rectal ozone?

Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 20:04:06 -0000

I'd like to hear from others with experience with rectal ozone. I'm

up to the highest concentration now and can barely retain it long

enough to get to the doctor's restroom. I feel like I'm wasting my

money. The effects after three months are minor if any, although my

physician is absolutely convinced that with time, the effects will be

trremendous and more long lasting than any other treatment for

Candida. He also gives me several enzymes and supplements. I've not

been able to find anyone to talk with about the ozone although I've

read a couple of book passages on it. I've got an appointment with

Dr. Resseger in Norwalk, OH in a couple of weeks for a second opinion

and may ask for prescription antifungals. Thoughts?

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Dr. Saul,

Thanks for responding, I certainly am concerned about further wasting

money. I tried a few home enemas (Fleet), prior to going for the

oxygen but found that I eliminated nothing but the enema fluid and

still couldn't retain the ozone for more than a few minutes. Any

other suggestions would be greatly valued. I've suffered

constipation for much of my life due to poor diet and little

exercise. Now I have those mostly under control, am regularly taking

Colon Cleaser with psyllium seed (manufactured by Pure Body Institute-

called Cleanse Purity, recommended and bought through my

osteopath). My bowel movements are more frequent but I wouldn't say

normal. I believe I don't retain the ozone because whatever waste

remains becomes so cramped its extremely painful after just a few

minutes. I'm not sure of the concentration although the doctor said

I'm now at the highest level (the dial on the machine says 8) and up

to six minutes. I've taken half, gone to the bathroom, asked for

another catheter and taken the second half with some success in

retaining it for at least the ride home (20 minutes). Please tell me

more about the preparatory enema. And, thank you again.

> Dear drm,

>

> You shouldn't need to go to the rest room after

> rectal insufflation. The fact that you do tells

> me you have not done an enema before hand. If that

> is so, you truly have been wasting your money.

>

> The preparatory enema is not optional, it is mandatory.

> A piece of fecal material the size of your thumbnail

> will take ozone a month to break down, at the rates

> you are doing it.

>

> What concentration are you doing it at, and for how long?

> From your post, I am not optimistic that you have the best

> protocol there. It would not be surprising that you get poor

> results.

>

> Best of Health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------

>

>

> From: drm21799@a...

> Reply-oxyplus@y...

> oxyplus@y...

> Subject: Anyone taking rectal ozone?

> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 20:04:06 -0000

>

> I'd like to hear from others with experience with rectal ozone. I'm

> up to the highest concentration now and can barely retain it long

> enough to get to the doctor's restroom. I feel like I'm wasting my

> money. The effects after three months are minor if any, although my

> physician is absolutely convinced that with time, the effects will

be

> trremendous and more long lasting than any other treatment for

> Candida. He also gives me several enzymes and supplements. I've

not

> been able to find anyone to talk with about the ozone although I've

> read a couple of book passages on it. I've got an appointment with

> Dr. Resseger in Norwalk, OH in a couple of weeks for a second

opinion

> and may ask for prescription antifungals. Thoughts?

>

>

>

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Dr. Saul,

Thanks for responding, I certainly am concerned about further wasting

money. I tried a few home enemas (Fleet), prior to going for the

oxygen but found that I eliminated nothing but the enema fluid and

still couldn't retain the ozone for more than a few minutes. Any

other suggestions would be greatly valued. I've suffered

constipation for much of my life due to poor diet and little

exercise. Now I have those mostly under control, am regularly taking

Colon Cleaser with psyllium seed (manufactured by Pure Body Institute-

called Cleanse Purity, recommended and bought through my

osteopath). My bowel movements are more frequent but I wouldn't say

normal. I believe I don't retain the ozone because whatever waste

remains becomes so cramped its extremely painful after just a few

minutes. I'm not sure of the concentration although the doctor said

I'm now at the highest level (the dial on the machine says 8) and up

to six minutes. I've taken half, gone to the bathroom, asked for

another catheter and taken the second half with some success in

retaining it for at least the ride home (20 minutes). Please tell me

more about the preparatory enema. And, thank you again.

> Dear drm,

>

> You shouldn't need to go to the rest room after

> rectal insufflation. The fact that you do tells

> me you have not done an enema before hand. If that

> is so, you truly have been wasting your money.

>

> The preparatory enema is not optional, it is mandatory.

> A piece of fecal material the size of your thumbnail

> will take ozone a month to break down, at the rates

> you are doing it.

>

> What concentration are you doing it at, and for how long?

> From your post, I am not optimistic that you have the best

> protocol there. It would not be surprising that you get poor

> results.

>

> Best of Health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------

>

>

> From: drm21799@a...

> Reply-oxyplus@y...

> oxyplus@y...

> Subject: Anyone taking rectal ozone?

> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 20:04:06 -0000

>

> I'd like to hear from others with experience with rectal ozone. I'm

> up to the highest concentration now and can barely retain it long

> enough to get to the doctor's restroom. I feel like I'm wasting my

> money. The effects after three months are minor if any, although my

> physician is absolutely convinced that with time, the effects will

be

> trremendous and more long lasting than any other treatment for

> Candida. He also gives me several enzymes and supplements. I've

not

> been able to find anyone to talk with about the ozone although I've

> read a couple of book passages on it. I've got an appointment with

> Dr. Resseger in Norwalk, OH in a couple of weeks for a second

opinion

> and may ask for prescription antifungals. Thoughts?

>

>

>

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