Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Ok, the clue is in the title but as NCD is not a chelator presumably it can't pull metals from cells but it can mop up metals that have already been stirred up by something else or are wandering about not tightly bound to something. So - I thought mercury got really tightly bound and could only be moved out after everything else was. So actually catching stuff and moving it out rather than almost catching it and moving it along BUT there still must be a) a queue of stuff, does it still do metals in " order " with mercury near the end and who is the DAN doctor who is completey sold on it? Surely you still need the antagonist to stir things up for the NCD to catch and despatch (I should work in marketing) I've been looking for Boyd Haley zeolite link on Google but haven't yet found one. Surely he would be the main man as this is exactly what he was talking about at the autism conference in edinburgh? If there 's a piece from him about it could someone post it? Looks exciting! Steph x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 Dr. Prociuk from Penn. is likely the DAN doctor you are asking about. You can hear about 90 minutes of 3-4 minute organized clips of him discussing his experiences with NCD by visiting www.zeoliteautismstudy.com - Highly recommended if you want to get the current best information on ASD and NCD from a doctor who has been using it with patients since Dec '05. NCD does indeed pull heavy metals from their bond in the cells because the affinity for NCD zeolite is stronger than the affinity for the heavy metal to stay with the cell. However, once the NCD has "captured" the heavy metal then the charge is neutralized and no more is pulled. This is why there appears to be no redistribution and many less detox problems than other chelators (and not hard on the liver or kidneys). >> Ok, the clue is in the title but as NCD is not a chelator presumably > it can't pull metals from cells but it can mop up metals that have > already been stirred up by something else or are wandering about not > tightly bound to something. So - I thought mercury got really > tightly bound and could only be moved out after everything else was. > So actually catching stuff and moving it out rather than almost > catching it and moving it along BUT there still must be a) a queue > of stuff, does it still do metals in "order" with mercury near the > end and who is the DAN doctor who is completey sold on it? > Surely you still need the antagonist to stir things up for the NCD > to catch and despatch (I should work in marketing) > > I've been looking for Boyd Haley zeolite link on Google but haven't > yet found one. Surely he would be the main man as this is exactly > what he was talking about at the autism conference in edinburgh? If > there 's a piece from him about it could someone post it?> > Looks exciting!> > Steph x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 Dr. Prociuk from Penn. is likely the DAN doctor you are asking about. You can hear about 90 minutes of 3-4 minute organized clips of him discussing his experiences with NCD by visiting www.zeoliteautismstudy.com - Highly recommended if you want to get the current best information on ASD and NCD from a doctor who has been using it with patients since Dec '05. NCD does indeed pull heavy metals from their bond in the cells because the affinity for NCD zeolite is stronger than the affinity for the heavy metal to stay with the cell. However, once the NCD has "captured" the heavy metal then the charge is neutralized and no more is pulled. This is why there appears to be no redistribution and many less detox problems than other chelators (and not hard on the liver or kidneys). >> Ok, the clue is in the title but as NCD is not a chelator presumably > it can't pull metals from cells but it can mop up metals that have > already been stirred up by something else or are wandering about not > tightly bound to something. So - I thought mercury got really > tightly bound and could only be moved out after everything else was. > So actually catching stuff and moving it out rather than almost > catching it and moving it along BUT there still must be a) a queue > of stuff, does it still do metals in "order" with mercury near the > end and who is the DAN doctor who is completey sold on it? > Surely you still need the antagonist to stir things up for the NCD > to catch and despatch (I should work in marketing) > > I've been looking for Boyd Haley zeolite link on Google but haven't > yet found one. Surely he would be the main man as this is exactly > what he was talking about at the autism conference in edinburgh? If > there 's a piece from him about it could someone post it?> > Looks exciting!> > Steph x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 Dr. Prociuk from Penn. is likely the DAN doctor you are asking about. You can hear about 90 minutes of 3-4 minute organized clips of him discussing his experiences with NCD by visiting www.zeoliteautismstudy.com - Highly recommended if you want to get the current best information on ASD and NCD from a doctor who has been using it with patients since Dec '05. NCD does indeed pull heavy metals from their bond in the cells because the affinity for NCD zeolite is stronger than the affinity for the heavy metal to stay with the cell. However, once the NCD has "captured" the heavy metal then the charge is neutralized and no more is pulled. This is why there appears to be no redistribution and many less detox problems than other chelators (and not hard on the liver or kidneys). >> Ok, the clue is in the title but as NCD is not a chelator presumably > it can't pull metals from cells but it can mop up metals that have > already been stirred up by something else or are wandering about not > tightly bound to something. So - I thought mercury got really > tightly bound and could only be moved out after everything else was. > So actually catching stuff and moving it out rather than almost > catching it and moving it along BUT there still must be a) a queue > of stuff, does it still do metals in "order" with mercury near the > end and who is the DAN doctor who is completey sold on it? > Surely you still need the antagonist to stir things up for the NCD > to catch and despatch (I should work in marketing) > > I've been looking for Boyd Haley zeolite link on Google but haven't > yet found one. Surely he would be the main man as this is exactly > what he was talking about at the autism conference in edinburgh? If > there 's a piece from him about it could someone post it?> > Looks exciting!> > Steph x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 >>>Hi Steph - catching up with my back mail Ok, the clue is in the title but as NCD is not a chelator presumably it can't pull metals from cells but it can mop up metals that have already been stirred up by something else or are wandering about not tightly bound to something. So - I thought mercury got really tightly bound and could only be moved out after everything else was. So actually catching stuff and moving it out rather than almost catching it and moving it along BUT there still must be a) a queue of stuff, does it still do metals in "order" with mercury near the end and >>>It says not - its all too new to figure out specifics yet but the new study will hopefully give us good info on how things go in our community who is the DAN doctor who is completey sold on it? >>>Dr Prociuk si the one I hear most about in the begiinning, Dr Usman seems impressed, Dr Cave, Dr and Dr Rao, all respected DAN!'s are invlved in the study Forrist is organising Surely you still need the antagonist to stir things up for the NCD to catch and despatch (I should work in marketing) >>>Maybe, time will tell, I plan on carrying on chelating as usual and using the NCd as well and in betweenI've been looking for Boyd Haley zeolite link on Google but haven't yet found one. Surely he would be the main man as this is exactly what he was talking about at the autism conference in edinburgh? If there 's a piece from him about it could someone post it? >>Not yet but he will let us know soon as he has anything. Shattock agreed to put it through his new mass spectromtre machine - he is goign to let me know how much he needs - only had machine delivered last Friday Sorry so late, so behind Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Sweetpea, if anyone is the definition of having nothing to apologise for, in terms of your fantastic help and support DER NER it's you. Great that 's looking into it. Anju (we're on first name terms now) thinks it's good and worth doing and Dr Heard said " sounds great, jury's still out " which is perfectly understandable. I'm knackered - movicol it does what it says on the tin. > > > >>>Hi Steph - catching up with my back mail > > Ok, the clue is in the title but as NCD is not a chelator presumably > it can't pull metals from cells but it can mop up metals that have > already been stirred up by something else or are wandering about not > tightly bound to something. So - I thought mercury got really > tightly bound and could only be moved out after everything else was. > So actually catching stuff and moving it out rather than almost > catching it and moving it along BUT there still must be a) a queue > of stuff, does it still do metals in " order " with mercury near the > end and > > >>>It says not - its all too new to figure out specifics yet but the new > study will hopefully give us good info on how things go in our community > > > who is the DAN doctor who is completey sold on it? > > > >>>Dr Prociuk si the one I hear most about in the begiinning, Dr Usman seems > impressed, Dr Cave, Dr and Dr Rao, all respected DAN!'s are invlved in > the study Forrist is organising > > Surely you still need the antagonist to stir things up for the NCD > to catch and despatch (I should work in marketing) > > >>>Maybe, time will tell, I plan on carrying on chelating as usual and using > the NCd as well and in between > > I've been looking for Boyd Haley zeolite link on Google but haven't > yet found one. Surely he would be the main man as this is exactly > what he was talking about at the autism conference in edinburgh? If > there 's a piece from him about it could someone post it? > > >>Not yet but he will let us know soon as he has anything. Shattock > agreed to put it through his new mass spectromtre machine - he is goign to let > me know how much he needs - only had machine delivered last Friday > > Sorry so late, so behind > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Sweetpea, if anyone is the definition of having nothing to apologise for, in terms of your fantastic help and support DER NER it's you. Great that 's looking into it. Anju (we're on first name terms now) thinks it's good and worth doing and Dr Heard said " sounds great, jury's still out " which is perfectly understandable. I'm knackered - movicol it does what it says on the tin. > > > >>>Hi Steph - catching up with my back mail > > Ok, the clue is in the title but as NCD is not a chelator presumably > it can't pull metals from cells but it can mop up metals that have > already been stirred up by something else or are wandering about not > tightly bound to something. So - I thought mercury got really > tightly bound and could only be moved out after everything else was. > So actually catching stuff and moving it out rather than almost > catching it and moving it along BUT there still must be a) a queue > of stuff, does it still do metals in " order " with mercury near the > end and > > >>>It says not - its all too new to figure out specifics yet but the new > study will hopefully give us good info on how things go in our community > > > who is the DAN doctor who is completey sold on it? > > > >>>Dr Prociuk si the one I hear most about in the begiinning, Dr Usman seems > impressed, Dr Cave, Dr and Dr Rao, all respected DAN!'s are invlved in > the study Forrist is organising > > Surely you still need the antagonist to stir things up for the NCD > to catch and despatch (I should work in marketing) > > >>>Maybe, time will tell, I plan on carrying on chelating as usual and using > the NCd as well and in between > > I've been looking for Boyd Haley zeolite link on Google but haven't > yet found one. Surely he would be the main man as this is exactly > what he was talking about at the autism conference in edinburgh? If > there 's a piece from him about it could someone post it? > > >>Not yet but he will let us know soon as he has anything. Shattock > agreed to put it through his new mass spectromtre machine - he is goign to let > me know how much he needs - only had machine delivered last Friday > > Sorry so late, so behind > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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