Re: ALA - especially in conjunction with TD-DMPS/TD-DMSA

[Guest guest]

Hello Alison

The general idea as I understand it (Mandi & others will no doubt

give a better description) is that you first have to reduce the body

burden of metals, using something like DMSA or DMPS. Neither of

these cross the blood-brain barrier. Then after a while when the

body burden is reduced, you add in ALA which according to some draws

mercury out of organs, including the brain. The idea is to carry on

with the DMSA at the same time because the mercury liberated by the

ALA is then escorted out of the body by the DMSA (or DMPS or other?)

I've read that it's not a good idea to wade straight in there with

the ALA until you've reduced the body load because the ALA might

encourage mercury back into the brain under those circumstances. Not

a good plan.

Clear as mud? Hopefully better than that!

If not, Dr U will certainly put you staight.

Sharon

>

> Please can someone explain ALA to me?

> I think I am about to embark on a discussion with Dr Usman about

it, but

> I am not at all sure that I have my facts straight yet.

> Sharon, Mandi anyone?

> Thanks Alison

>

[Guest guest]

Just as a another point of view Alison, we started with DMSA/ALA

right off the bat. The idea of the ALA carrying the body burden of

mercury into the brain didn't quite make sense to me in that I think

mercury makes its way into the brain just fine without help.

Thinking that, I wanted to start using as soon as possible what I

thought could get it out of the brain.

One of the things I like best about ALA is its amazing antioxidant

qualities, particularly for our kids who suffer such oxidative

stress. I read somewhere that taking ALA can make CoQ10 something

like 50 (60? sorry its late and I'm not at home to look at my

notes) times more effective. ALA is also supportive of the liver.

I believe in dosing the ALA by its half life, which is three hours.

A pain, but one I happily embrace because I think the stuff is doing

a world of good.

Anita

>

> Please can someone explain ALA to me?

> I think I am about to embark on a discussion with Dr Usman about

it, but

> I am not at all sure that I have my facts straight yet.

> Sharon, Mandi anyone?

> Thanks Alison

>

[Guest guest]

Just as a another point of view Alison, we started with DMSA/ALA

right off the bat. The idea of the ALA carrying the body burden of

mercury into the brain didn't quite make sense to me in that I think

mercury makes its way into the brain just fine without help.

Thinking that, I wanted to start using as soon as possible what I

thought could get it out of the brain.

One of the things I like best about ALA is its amazing antioxidant

qualities, particularly for our kids who suffer such oxidative

stress. I read somewhere that taking ALA can make CoQ10 something

like 50 (60? sorry its late and I'm not at home to look at my

notes) times more effective. ALA is also supportive of the liver.

I believe in dosing the ALA by its half life, which is three hours.

A pain, but one I happily embrace because I think the stuff is doing

a world of good.

Anita

>

> Please can someone explain ALA to me?

> I think I am about to embark on a discussion with Dr Usman about

it, but

> I am not at all sure that I have my facts straight yet.

> Sharon, Mandi anyone?

> Thanks Alison

>

[Guest guest]

Just as a another point of view Alison, we started with DMSA/ALA

right off the bat. The idea of the ALA carrying the body burden of

mercury into the brain didn't quite make sense to me in that I think

mercury makes its way into the brain just fine without help.

Thinking that, I wanted to start using as soon as possible what I

thought could get it out of the brain.

One of the things I like best about ALA is its amazing antioxidant

qualities, particularly for our kids who suffer such oxidative

stress. I read somewhere that taking ALA can make CoQ10 something

like 50 (60? sorry its late and I'm not at home to look at my

notes) times more effective. ALA is also supportive of the liver.

I believe in dosing the ALA by its half life, which is three hours.

A pain, but one I happily embrace because I think the stuff is doing

a world of good.

Anita

>

> Please can someone explain ALA to me?

> I think I am about to embark on a discussion with Dr Usman about

it, but

> I am not at all sure that I have my facts straight yet.

> Sharon, Mandi anyone?

> Thanks Alison

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anita

Can you remind me, is your child lead-y? I think we're nowhere near

any mercury with Tom - he just pours lead and tin like a small and

non-profitable mine. I have no idea what ALA would do for him.

> >

> > Please can someone explain ALA to me?

> > I think I am about to embark on a discussion with Dr Usman about

> it, but

> > I am not at all sure that I have my facts straight yet.

> > Sharon, Mandi anyone?

> > Thanks Alison

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anita

Can you remind me, is your child lead-y? I think we're nowhere near

any mercury with Tom - he just pours lead and tin like a small and

non-profitable mine. I have no idea what ALA would do for him.

> >

> > Please can someone explain ALA to me?

> > I think I am about to embark on a discussion with Dr Usman about

> it, but

> > I am not at all sure that I have my facts straight yet.

> > Sharon, Mandi anyone?

> > Thanks Alison

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anita

Can you remind me, is your child lead-y? I think we're nowhere near

any mercury with Tom - he just pours lead and tin like a small and

non-profitable mine. I have no idea what ALA would do for him.

> >

> > Please can someone explain ALA to me?

> > I think I am about to embark on a discussion with Dr Usman about

> it, but

> > I am not at all sure that I have my facts straight yet.

> > Sharon, Mandi anyone?

> > Thanks Alison

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi (here's the version of my letter that makes sense),

According to hair tests, yes he has lead. We did test blood 10 days

after a chelation round not too long ago and barely any lead at

all. I just

can't believe that is accurate though. He is also excreting lead

per fecal and urine tests. Not loads, but about what you'd expect

for the small doses of chelator we give.

Andy Cutler says that the oft-quoted " order of metals " excreted is a

fiction. He's so often right, and he's had so much access to

hundreds of chelating people that I tend to believe him on this. My

son's last test showed mercury just touching the yellow. Other than

nickel, it was the highest level of metal being excreted. And, like

I say, my belief per tests is that he is a high lead kid. He also

shows lots of signs of high lead (non-verbal, high need for calcium,

etc).

So, I think that using the ALA does get at the mercury, even if

you're full of lead. My feeling is, even if it's just the teeny-

tiniest bit of mercury coming out, that's much better than the whole

lot staying in. And, all that stuff I said about antioxidants too.

If someone can handle the ALA in terms of possible yeast and the

rather harsh dosing schedule (although not far off the timing if

you're using DMSA), I certainly think it's worth a try.

Anita

> > >

> > > Please can someone explain ALA to me?

> > > I think I am about to embark on a discussion with Dr Usman

about

> > it, but

> > > I am not at all sure that I have my facts straight yet.

> > > Sharon, Mandi anyone?

> > > Thanks Alison

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi (here's the version of my letter that makes sense),

According to hair tests, yes he has lead. We did test blood 10 days

after a chelation round not too long ago and barely any lead at

all. I just

can't believe that is accurate though. He is also excreting lead

per fecal and urine tests. Not loads, but about what you'd expect

for the small doses of chelator we give.

Andy Cutler says that the oft-quoted " order of metals " excreted is a

fiction. He's so often right, and he's had so much access to

hundreds of chelating people that I tend to believe him on this. My

son's last test showed mercury just touching the yellow. Other than

nickel, it was the highest level of metal being excreted. And, like

I say, my belief per tests is that he is a high lead kid. He also

shows lots of signs of high lead (non-verbal, high need for calcium,

etc).

So, I think that using the ALA does get at the mercury, even if

you're full of lead. My feeling is, even if it's just the teeny-

tiniest bit of mercury coming out, that's much better than the whole

lot staying in. And, all that stuff I said about antioxidants too.

If someone can handle the ALA in terms of possible yeast and the

rather harsh dosing schedule (although not far off the timing if

you're using DMSA), I certainly think it's worth a try.

Anita

> > >

> > > Please can someone explain ALA to me?

> > > I think I am about to embark on a discussion with Dr Usman

about

> > it, but

> > > I am not at all sure that I have my facts straight yet.

> > > Sharon, Mandi anyone?

> > > Thanks Alison

> > >

> >

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