Re: How whey products differ

[Guest guest]

what about drinking raw cow milk, raw goat milk, raw cheeses?

i've tried immunocal, and solgar whey. for some reason i did better with the

solgar product-- cold processed perhaps? then i switched over to pasteurized

goat milk and di well on that for a while. now i am in the process of getting

into raw dairy. i ordered some raw goat milk from egret farm which will be

coming tomorrow. any thoughts?

[Guest guest]

Duncan, I've been lookingfor that particular type of whey. Can you post

the address?

[Guest guest]

Duncan, I've been lookingfor that particular type of whey. Can you post

the address?

[Guest guest]

Hi Duncan,

The website I referenced, www.immunepro.com , says the Immunocal was an earlier

form, and that the newer one, ImmunePro Rx is a stronger version of it, three

times stronger if I remember correctly. The catalog for www.immunesupport.com

lists these products on the same page. Immunocal was used by the doctor

referenced on both sites, but he's switched to the newer product; an interview

with him is at both sites, I think. It's at least at one of them.

Peggy

>>The sort form is that wheys are NOT equal...the one that donates cystine is

process-patented, the patent involving circumventing legislation that makes

whey producers scald the heck out of their product, breaking the weak

sulfur-sulfur bonds and rendering it ineffective as a cystine donor. The

GOOD product is Immunocal (HMS-90 in Canada).>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Duncan,

The website I referenced, www.immunepro.com , says the Immunocal was an earlier

form, and that the newer one, ImmunePro Rx is a stronger version of it, three

times stronger if I remember correctly. The catalog for www.immunesupport.com

lists these products on the same page. Immunocal was used by the doctor

referenced on both sites, but he's switched to the newer product; an interview

with him is at both sites, I think. It's at least at one of them.

Peggy

>>The sort form is that wheys are NOT equal...the one that donates cystine is

process-patented, the patent involving circumventing legislation that makes

whey producers scald the heck out of their product, breaking the weak

sulfur-sulfur bonds and rendering it ineffective as a cystine donor. The

GOOD product is Immunocal (HMS-90 in Canada).>>

[Guest guest]

I had a look at the Immune Pro site...although the whey is not a protein

isolate like Immunocal is, the function is quite similar.

In other words, they are not the same; Immune Pro is ALL the proteins as I

understand it, whereas Immunocal is ONE of the proteins, the cystine donor

protein (glutathione precursor) isolated...

The difference will be that the Immune Pro may be a balanced protein

supplement, which Immunocal is not aiming to be.

ciao

Duncan.

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[Guest guest]

I had a look at the Immune Pro site...although the whey is not a protein

isolate like Immunocal is, the function is quite similar.

In other words, they are not the same; Immune Pro is ALL the proteins as I

understand it, whereas Immunocal is ONE of the proteins, the cystine donor

protein (glutathione precursor) isolated...

The difference will be that the Immune Pro may be a balanced protein

supplement, which Immunocal is not aiming to be.

ciao

Duncan.

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[Guest guest]

Duncan,

If glutathione is all one is trying to get, NAC (n-acetyl-cysteine) gets

more past the gut that any other precursor. It is not expensive & is at

the HFS. Liver detoxing requires also trace minerals.

jim

Duncan Crow wrote:

>

> I had a look at the Immune Pro site...although the whey is not a protein

> isolate like Immunocal is, the function is quite similar.

>

> In other words, they are not the same; Immune Pro is ALL the proteins as I

> understand it, whereas Immunocal is ONE of the proteins, the cystine donor

> protein (glutathione precursor) isolated...

>

> The difference will be that the Immune Pro may be a balanced protein

> supplement, which Immunocal is not aiming to be.

>

> ciao

>

> Duncan.

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[Guest guest]

Hi folks;

Raw whey/milk would do it; it's far less concentrated though...

Right Jim;

N-Acetyl-Cysteine...that's what DAAIR is still advocating. Some cysteine

gets through past the gut all right, but it's a small percentage so the

dosage has to be high enough to carry a caution for possible toxicity.

Hi Peggy;

You may be correct...WOW three times better as a supplement, while the old

mix was already pretty darn good. I'll have another look...maybe it IS the

same company, Immunotec. In Canada we're still getting the old stuff I

believe. I'll check on that too.

The book I was quoting came out in 1999. Didn't mean to confuse the

issue...my, things develop so quickly!

But we're all agreed that glutathione is a valuable antioxidant with

antiaging properties, and will control the proliferation of bacteria and

viruses...and tumours too, for long enough to buy some time and get a plan

happening.

ciao

Duncan

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Hi folks;

Raw whey/milk would do it; it's far less concentrated though...

Right Jim;

N-Acetyl-Cysteine...that's what DAAIR is still advocating. Some cysteine

gets through past the gut all right, but it's a small percentage so the

dosage has to be high enough to carry a caution for possible toxicity.

Hi Peggy;

You may be correct...WOW three times better as a supplement, while the old

mix was already pretty darn good. I'll have another look...maybe it IS the

same company, Immunotec. In Canada we're still getting the old stuff I

believe. I'll check on that too.

The book I was quoting came out in 1999. Didn't mean to confuse the

issue...my, things develop so quickly!

But we're all agreed that glutathione is a valuable antioxidant with

antiaging properties, and will control the proliferation of bacteria and

viruses...and tumours too, for long enough to buy some time and get a plan

happening.

ciao

Duncan

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