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Strange! My doc said if I don't like Spiro she can replace it with Inspra.

Did your doc give a reason why s/he is not giving you Inspra? Of course my

doc said Inspra is expensive, but I am not sure how much. It will be

enlightening to know your doc's reasons for denying Inspra to you. Please

share when known.

Max.

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|Looking for advice how to lower Spiro dose. I hate the side

|effects and doc won't consider changing to Inspra. So here's

|my problem, I'm on 200 mg / day. Last summer I was on 50 mg /

|day while eating nothing but baked potatoes, bananas, OJ and a

|few other low sodium foods. But who wants to eat that way and

|by the time the holidays came about I gave up and BP went back

|up. So, now I'm trying to get serious again, but it I eat low

|sodium, my dosr is too high, but if I cut dose to 150 mg /day

|I gain 5 lbs by next day. What is the best way to back down

|Spiro and sodium? I'll notice I can go one or two days low

|sodium, BP comes down, I try to lower Spiro does and BP goes

|way back up. What am I missing here?

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Strange! My doc said if I don't like Spiro she can replace it with Inspra.

Did your doc give a reason why s/he is not giving you Inspra? Of course my

doc said Inspra is expensive, but I am not sure how much. It will be

enlightening to know your doc's reasons for denying Inspra to you. Please

share when known.

Max.

|

|Looking for advice how to lower Spiro dose. I hate the side

|effects and doc won't consider changing to Inspra. So here's

|my problem, I'm on 200 mg / day. Last summer I was on 50 mg /

|day while eating nothing but baked potatoes, bananas, OJ and a

|few other low sodium foods. But who wants to eat that way and

|by the time the holidays came about I gave up and BP went back

|up. So, now I'm trying to get serious again, but it I eat low

|sodium, my dosr is too high, but if I cut dose to 150 mg /day

|I gain 5 lbs by next day. What is the best way to back down

|Spiro and sodium? I'll notice I can go one or two days low

|sodium, BP comes down, I try to lower Spiro does and BP goes

|way back up. What am I missing here?

|

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1. Why will he not consider Inspra? It is the agent of choice in PA if spiro and DASH don't work2. You need to DASH to the max to minimize the need for MCRBs. Recall that when excess aldo is given animals they MUST be on a high salt diet or HTN or low K or heart enlargement and scarring of the heart and kidneys does not occur. 3. It is a trail and error on how to reduce spiro and keep BP at goal.4. I would check BP am and pm and weight daily. and adjust spiro no more that 25 mg per week.Keep us posted with your BPs Do you have the DASH book? Go to the Dashforhealth and sign up for it and pay the small amount each month to see if this helps. One week of Inspra will cost more than a whole year of subscribing I recall.On Feb 21, 2010, at 3:02 PM, mmcandmcc wrote:Looking for advice how to lower Spiro dose. I hate the side effects and doc won't consider changing to Inspra. So here's my problem, I'm on 200 mg / day. Last summer I was on 50 mg / day while eating nothing but baked potatoes, bananas, OJ and a few other low sodium foods. But who wants to eat that way and by the time the holidays came about I gave up and BP went back up. So, now I'm trying to get serious again, but it I eat low sodium, my dosr is too high, but if I cut dose to 150 mg /day I gain 5 lbs by next day. What is the best way to back down Spiro and sodium? I'll notice I can go one or two days low sodium, BP comes down, I try to lower Spiro does and BP goes way back up. What am I missing here?

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1. Why will he not consider Inspra? It is the agent of choice in PA if spiro and DASH don't work2. You need to DASH to the max to minimize the need for MCRBs. Recall that when excess aldo is given animals they MUST be on a high salt diet or HTN or low K or heart enlargement and scarring of the heart and kidneys does not occur. 3. It is a trail and error on how to reduce spiro and keep BP at goal.4. I would check BP am and pm and weight daily. and adjust spiro no more that 25 mg per week.Keep us posted with your BPs Do you have the DASH book? Go to the Dashforhealth and sign up for it and pay the small amount each month to see if this helps. One week of Inspra will cost more than a whole year of subscribing I recall.On Feb 21, 2010, at 3:02 PM, mmcandmcc wrote:Looking for advice how to lower Spiro dose. I hate the side effects and doc won't consider changing to Inspra. So here's my problem, I'm on 200 mg / day. Last summer I was on 50 mg / day while eating nothing but baked potatoes, bananas, OJ and a few other low sodium foods. But who wants to eat that way and by the time the holidays came about I gave up and BP went back up. So, now I'm trying to get serious again, but it I eat low sodium, my dosr is too high, but if I cut dose to 150 mg /day I gain 5 lbs by next day. What is the best way to back down Spiro and sodium? I'll notice I can go one or two days low sodium, BP comes down, I try to lower Spiro does and BP goes way back up. What am I missing here?

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Most need 2 x the mg dose and it costs 20 x as much as spiro but depends.On Feb 21, 2010, at 3:17 PM, MaxJasper wrote:Strange! My doc said if I don't like Spiro she can replace it with Inspra.Did your doc give a reason why s/he is not giving you Inspra? Of course mydoc said Inspra is expensive, but I am not sure how much. It will beenlightening to know your doc's reasons for denying Inspra to you. Pleaseshare when known.Max.||Looking for advice how to lower Spiro dose. I hate the side |effects and doc won't consider changing to Inspra. So here's |my problem, I'm on 200 mg / day. Last summer I was on 50 mg / |day while eating nothing but baked potatoes, bananas, OJ and a |few other low sodium foods. But who wants to eat that way and |by the time the holidays came about I gave up and BP went back |up. So, now I'm trying to get serious again, but it I eat low |sodium, my dosr is too high, but if I cut dose to 150 mg /day |I gain 5 lbs by next day. What is the best way to back down |Spiro and sodium? I'll notice I can go one or two days low |sodium, BP comes down, I try to lower Spiro does and BP goes |way back up. What am I missing here?|| |

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When I brought up Inspra he said he's not changing things if my BP looks good.

When I complained of menstural problems, he dismissed it as few people really

get the side effects you read about.

I'm guessing it's really about money.

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> > Strange! My doc said if I don't like Spiro she can replace it with

> > Inspra.

> > Did your doc give a reason why s/he is not giving you Inspra? Of

> > course my

> > doc said Inspra is expensive, but I am not sure how much. It will be

> > enlightening to know your doc's reasons for denying Inspra to you.

> > Please

> > share when known.

> >

> > Max.

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> > |Looking for advice how to lower Spiro dose. I hate the side

> > |effects and doc won't consider changing to Inspra. So here's

> > |my problem, I'm on 200 mg / day. Last summer I was on 50 mg /

> > |day while eating nothing but baked potatoes, bananas, OJ and a

> > |few other low sodium foods. But who wants to eat that way and

> > |by the time the holidays came about I gave up and BP went back

> > |up. So, now I'm trying to get serious again, but it I eat low

> > |sodium, my dosr is too high, but if I cut dose to 150 mg /day

> > |I gain 5 lbs by next day. What is the best way to back down

> > |Spiro and sodium? I'll notice I can go one or two days low

> > |sodium, BP comes down, I try to lower Spiro does and BP goes

> > |way back up. What am I missing here?

> > |

> > |

> > |

> >

> >

> >

>

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