Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Dr. Grim, Does that mean you discount their work? Several of the members of this group with my condition have contacted me that are using naturopaths and are feeling much better. Do you feel they shouldn't be pursued, and if so, are drugs our final answer? Thank you-Flowerspy > >> > > > >> > > > Dr. Grim, > >> > > > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > >> have been > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my goal > >> is to > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am almost > >> at a > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's ups > >> and > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can you? > >> I have > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and high > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please if > >> you are > >> > > > able~! > >> > > > > >> > > > Many thanks~ > >> > > > Flower Spy > >> > > > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 I have to respectfully argue with you on this one Dr. Grimm. While I am unsure of the credentials in the US, in Canada, naturopathic doctors have the same number of years of university as GPs do...often taught in the same universities. My naturopath has an undergrad science degree (4 years), a 4 year post graduate degree in naturopathic medicine, is a registered dietician and is acupuncturist. I would hardly call her a quack and I think it is disrespectful to automatically assume she is one. Don¡¦t get me wrong I am sure there are a lot of quacks out there but given my experience with the medical profession these days some days I wonder about the supposed ¡§real¡¨ doctors. I am not suggesting that everyone in this forum quick their meds and seek a naturopath. Of course not. The same due diligence you put into selecting your doctor and specialists should be done when selecting a naturopath as well. Common sense needs to prevail but I am at the end of the road here and my rope too I think. ƒº I am tired of seeing specialist after specialist who tells me that I am cured simply because my K is normal and my BP is great. Yes that is fantastic considering how I was 2 years ago but what about now? How many of us need to scream at the top of our lungs before the doctors and surgeons realize that some studies need to be done on patients post op and not just on K and aldo/rennin? The adrenals produce many more hormones than that I am astounded that no one appears to care about those of us who are living with only one adrenal and the implications that has on other bodily functions. COME ON! Even my GP has confirmed that yes, there is a link between thyroid, adrenal and ovarian health but there is nothing they really can do to treat them aside from treating each symptom separately with drugs. In this forum alone we have enough women complaining about thyroid dysfunction, excessive menstrual bleeding, moodiness, sleep and exhaustion issues. A person¡¦s K and aldo/rennin levels aren¡¦t worth a fig on some of these symptoms but I do think it is reasonable to consider that perhaps the remaining adrenal can get tired from time to time and need a little bit of support. My point is simple. There are other options for those of us in specialist limbo-land post adrenalectomy. I am having some success with the naturopath. I am being treated holistically as a whole person ¡V not symptom by symptom. I find it comforting that my naturopathic doctor understands my symptoms and is TOTALLY FAMILIAR with them, provides me literature on the condition and its treatment and has experience treating patients with adrenal fatigue. I am doing simple things like changing my diet (not unlike DASH), taking vitamins (D, B and acidophilious) and doing acupuncture. I have not stopped taking my synthroid or other prescribed medications and am working with my GP and naturopath to ensure there will be no drug interactions. I put this out there in case others need options. It¡¦s not a magic cure but if you are tired of being sick and getting nowhere...seeking the help of a QUALIFIED naturopathic doctor might work. Medical doctors don¡¦t know everything. No one does. > > >> > > > > >> > > > Dr. Grim, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > > >> have been > > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my goal > > >> is to > > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am almost > > >> at a > > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's ups > > >> and > > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can you? > > >> I have > > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and high > > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please if > > >> you are > > >> > > > able~! > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks~ > > >> > > > Flower Spy > > >> > > > > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Hi Dana, I did have to go through a 2 hour initial appointment. I was very intimated and quite skeptical about the whole thing but I was honestly at my wits end with the bleeding and tiredness and just everything and so many people recommended that I try a naturopath that I decided to give it a try. I wasn't getting anywhere in traditional routes so I figured this couldn't hurt provided I was reasonable and comfortable with the recommened treatment. It was honestly a great appointment. It was so thorough and it was nice not be rushed into a 15 min time slot like most doctors. I had to fill out a lot of questions even before I had the appointment and the doctor was well versed on my chart before I even got there (another pleasant surprise). We reviewed my answers together, she did an exam and checked my BP lying down and then while I stood up (which it fell - i always get dizzy standing up fast these days). She said this was typical of adrenal dysfunction but acknowledged there could be other reasons. I had to do a diet diary for a week and fill out a long questionnaire as homework for the first week. Seriously, wait until you do this...it's like a lightbulb moment. Validation that you aren't crazy. I am finding this whole experience so far very comforting and I feel like for the first time in 2 years that there may be hope for me yet in feeling healthy again. I'll keep you posted as I get further along in the treatment. The first appointment was $130 CAD but i am covered under my health plan for it. Subsequent appointments are $60 per half hour I think. I had my first acupunture experience last Thursday. It was interesting...not sure what it will do in the long run but I will give it a few more trys before making any decisions on that. I have to say though, I am noticing subtle differences already and that is enough to make me stick with it a while longer. Good luck Dana and I wish you well in whatever you decide. Terri > > > > > > > Dr. Grim, > > > > > > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I have been > > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my goal is to > > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am almost at a > > > > year post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's ups and > > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can you? I have > > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and high > > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please if you are > > > > able~! > > > > > > > > Many thanks~ > > > > Flower Spy > > > > > > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Terri- Thank so much for your candid post. I too, feel that there is a correlation between these organs. I also was told I am " cured " , and while it will be a year next month- I still feel like there's some adrenal recalibration stuff going on. There are weeks I feel like I'm 20 again, but then something happens (maybe stress?) and I go into high fatigue mood, combined with depression. I no longer menstruate, but when I did it was excessive and I was put on hormornes-big surprise. I was also on and off prednisone for years and deep down I believe that drug is coming back to haunt me. I applaud your choice to seek alternative means, as will I. I have had it up to my head with Drs who don't even know what Conn's is, and simply factor in menopause (I'm also over that) or just age-am 47 yrs young. I am moving to New Mexico later this year and plan to locate a naturopath out there. I respect Dr. Grim for his expertise, but feel we are such a small group suffering from a relatively new disease, that there is still MUCH to be discovered by Conn's, and our adrenal glands. All I want is to live a " balanced " life where I can keep up with my loved ones and not be so exhausted. Peace-F.S. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Dr. Grim, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > > > >> have been > > > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my goal > > > >> is to > > > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am almost > > > >> at a > > > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's ups > > > >> and > > > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can you? > > > >> I have > > > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and high > > > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please if > > > >> you are > > > >> > > > able~! > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks~ > > > >> > > > Flower Spy > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Terri- Very informative stuff... thank you for giving me some hope-sometimes I think I have lost it. I should be " fine " but why don't I feel it? I am hoping Dr. Grim will jump in and give us his feedback on stress levels/physical exertion and one adrenal. I can't imagine how one can handle so much. FLOWER SPY > > > > > > > > > Dr. Grim, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I have been > > > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my goal is to > > > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am almost at a > > > > > year post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's ups and > > > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can you? I have > > > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and high > > > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please if you are > > > > > able~! > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks~ > > > > > Flower Spy > > > > > > > > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Many get better on their own and unless one has a control group u don't know if the side effects are as good as or as Bad.as or better than. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 20, 2010, at 3:16 PM, langrallcarole <clangrall@...> wrote: Dr. Grim, Does that mean you discount their work? Several of the members of this group with my condition have contacted me that are using naturopaths and are feeling much better. Do you feel they shouldn't be pursued, and if so, are drugs our final answer? Thank you-Flowerspy > >> > > > >> > > > Dr. Grim, > >> > > > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > >> have been > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my goal > >> is to > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am almost > >> at a > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's ups > >> and > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can you? > >> I have > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and high > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please if > >> you are > >> > > > able~! > >> > > > > >> > > > Many thanks~ > >> > > > Flower Spy > >> > > > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Was stick with it a pun on the acupuncture? Good one!Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 20, 2010, at 7:49 PM, langrallcarole <clangrall@...> wrote: Terri- Very informative stuff... thank you for giving me some hope-sometimes I think I have lost it. I should be "fine" but why don't I feel it? I am hoping Dr. Grim will jump in and give us his feedback on stress levels/physical exertion and one adrenal. I can't imagine how one can handle so much. FLOWER SPY > > > > > > > > > Dr. Grim, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I have been > > > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my goal is to > > > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am almost at a > > > > > year post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's ups and > > > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can you? I have > > > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and high > > > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please if you are > > > > > able~! > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks~ > > > > > Flower Spy > > > > > > > > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 The best way to balance conn's is to DASH like you health depended on it nTiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 20, 2010, at 7:43 PM, langrallcarole <clangrall@...> wrote: Terri- Thank so much for your candid post. I too, feel that there is a correlation between these organs. I also was told I am "cured", and while it will be a year next month- I still feel like there's some adrenal recalibration stuff going on. There are weeks I feel like I'm 20 again, but then something happens (maybe stress?) and I go into high fatigue mood, combined with depression. I no longer menstruate, but when I did it was excessive and I was put on hormornes-big surprise. I was also on and off prednisone for years and deep down I believe that drug is coming back to haunt me. I applaud your choice to seek alternative means, as will I. I have had it up to my head with Drs who don't even know what Conn's is, and simply factor in menopause (I'm also over that) or just age-am 47 yrs young. I am moving to New Mexico later this year and plan to locate a naturopath out there. I respect Dr. Grim for his expertise, but feel we are such a small group suffering from a relatively new disease, that there is still MUCH to be discovered by Conn's, and our adrenal glands. All I want is to live a "balanced" life where I can keep up with my loved ones and not be so exhausted. Peace-F.S. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Dr. Grim, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > > > >> have been > > > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my goal > > > >> is to > > > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am almost > > > >> at a > > > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's ups > > > >> and > > > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can you? > > > >> I have > > > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and high > > > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please if > > > >> you are > > > >> > > > able~! > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks~ > > > >> > > > Flower Spy > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 No just asking for good data. If they were so greatIt would be in respectable journals. As I say SHOW ME THE DATA. TESTIMONIALS ARE NOT SCIENCE. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 20, 2010, at 2:16 PM, langrallcarole <clangrall@...> wrote: Dr. Grim, Does that mean you discount their work? Several of the members of this group with my condition have contacted me that are using naturopaths and are feeling much better. Do you feel they shouldn't be pursued, and if so, are drugs our final answer? Thank you-Flowerspy > >> > > > >> > > > Dr. Grim, > >> > > > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > >> have been > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my goal > >> is to > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am almost > >> at a > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's ups > >> and > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can you? > >> I have > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and high > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please if > >> you are > >> > > > able~! > >> > > > > >> > > > Many thanks~ > >> > > > Flower Spy > >> > > > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 How long should this take after surgery? I feel like I'm 25 years younger on some days and then-wham! I am down with some serious fatigue. Does stress affect us differently now? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Dr. Grim, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > > > >> have been > > > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my > > goal > > > >> is to > > > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am > > almost > > > >> at a > > > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's > > ups > > > >> and > > > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can > > you? > > > >> I have > > > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and > > high > > > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please > > if > > > >> you are > > > >> > > > able~! > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks~ > > > >> > > > Flower Spy > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Indont recall which surgery u had we only have 300 folks on here. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 20, 2010, at 8:17 PM, langrallcarole <clangrall@...> wrote: How long should this take after surgery? I feel like I'm 25 years younger on some days and then-wham! I am down with some serious fatigue. Does stress affect us differently now? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Dr. Grim, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > > > >> have been > > > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my > > goal > > > >> is to > > > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am > > almost > > > >> at a > > > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's > > ups > > > >> and > > > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can > > you? > > > >> I have > > > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and > > high > > > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please > > if > > > >> you are > > > >> > > > able~! > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks~ > > > >> > > > Flower Spy > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 It gets bigger. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 20, 2010, at 7:49 PM, langrallcarole <clangrall@...> wrote: Terri- Very informative stuff... thank you for giving me some hope-sometimes I think I have lost it. I should be "fine" but why don't I feel it? I am hoping Dr. Grim will jump in and give us his feedback on stress levels/physical exertion and one adrenal. I can't imagine how one can handle so much. FLOWER SPY > > > > > > > > > Dr. Grim, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I have been > > > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my goal is to > > > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am almost at a > > > > > year post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's ups and > > > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can you? I have > > > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and high > > > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please if you are > > > > > able~! > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks~ > > > > > Flower Spy > > > > > > > > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Must await ur 1 year renin Aldo tests Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 20, 2010, at 7:43 PM, langrallcarole <clangrall@...> wrote: Terri- Thank so much for your candid post. I too, feel that there is a correlation between these organs. I also was told I am "cured", and while it will be a year next month- I still feel like there's some adrenal recalibration stuff going on. There are weeks I feel like I'm 20 again, but then something happens (maybe stress?) and I go into high fatigue mood, combined with depression. I no longer menstruate, but when I did it was excessive and I was put on hormornes-big surprise. I was also on and off prednisone for years and deep down I believe that drug is coming back to haunt me. I applaud your choice to seek alternative means, as will I. I have had it up to my head with Drs who don't even know what Conn's is, and simply factor in menopause (I'm also over that) or just age-am 47 yrs young. I am moving to New Mexico later this year and plan to locate a naturopath out there. I respect Dr. Grim for his expertise, but feel we are such a small group suffering from a relatively new disease, that there is still MUCH to be discovered by Conn's, and our adrenal glands. All I want is to live a "balanced" life where I can keep up with my loved ones and not be so exhausted. Peace-F.S. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Dr. Grim, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > > > >> have been > > > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my goal > > > >> is to > > > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am almost > > > >> at a > > > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's ups > > > >> and > > > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can you? > > > >> I have > > > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and high > > > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please if > > > >> you are > > > >> > > > able~! > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks~ > > > >> > > > Flower Spy > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 adrenalectomy, sorry I was under the impression you read and responded to my blog > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Dr. Grim, > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my > > blog...I > > > > > >> have been > > > > > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my > > > > goal > > > > > >> is to > > > > > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am > > > > almost > > > > > >> at a > > > > > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has > > it's > > > > ups > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, > > can > > > > you? > > > > > >> I have > > > > > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion > > and > > > > high > > > > > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me > > please > > > > if > > > > > >> you are > > > > > >> > > > able~! > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks~ > > > > > >> > > > Flower Spy > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Actually just discovered it. ThAnks. If anyone there wants one on one consultation I do 1 year for $500 and can save many lots of time trouble and Dollars. Work with them and their Drs. For 1 Year by email and tele and Skype bTiped sad Send form mioiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 20, 2010, at 8:13 PM, langrallcarole <clangrall@...> wrote: adrenalectomy, sorry I was under the impression you read and responded to my blog > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Dr. Grim, > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my > > blog...I > > > > > >> have been > > > > > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my > > > > goal > > > > > >> is to > > > > > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am > > > > almost > > > > > >> at a > > > > > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has > > it's > > > > ups > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, > > can > > > > you? > > > > > >> I have > > > > > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion > > and > > > > high > > > > > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me > > please > > > > if > > > > > >> you are > > > > > >> > > > able~! > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks~ > > > > > >> > > > Flower Spy > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 I have followed perhaps 50 folks with one adrenal and 10 who had both out which is aMuch bigger problem. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 20, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@...> wrote: Must await ur 1 year renin Aldo tests Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 20, 2010, at 7:43 PM, langrallcarole <clangrallgmail> wrote: Terri- Thank so much for your candid post. I too, feel that there is a correlation between these organs. I also was told I am "cured", and while it will be a year next month- I still feel like there's some adrenal recalibration stuff going on. There are weeks I feel like I'm 20 again, but then something happens (maybe stress?) and I go into high fatigue mood, combined with depression. I no longer menstruate, but when I did it was excessive and I was put on hormornes-big surprise. I was also on and off prednisone for years and deep down I believe that drug is coming back to haunt me. I applaud your choice to seek alternative means, as will I. I have had it up to my head with Drs who don't even know what Conn's is, and simply factor in menopause (I'm also over that) or just age-am 47 yrs young. I am moving to New Mexico later this year and plan to locate a naturopath out there. I respect Dr. Grim for his expertise, but feel we are such a small group suffering from a relatively new disease, that there is still MUCH to be discovered by Conn's, and our adrenal glands. All I want is to live a "balanced" life where I can keep up with my loved ones and not be so exhausted. Peace-F.S. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Dr. Grim, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > > > >> have been > > > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my goal > > > >> is to > > > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am almost > > > >> at a > > > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's ups > > > >> and > > > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can you? > > > >> I have > > > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and high > > > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please if > > > >> you are > > > >> > > > able~! > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks~ > > > >> > > > Flower Spy > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Yes, if you have both out wouldn't you then have addisons / adrenal insufficency?I think homeopaths are good for helping you maintain some level of well being until you get diagnosed. My homeopath thought it was just from antibiotics but after some months said you have an underlying problem, it won't go until you sort it out.I wrote to gastro I saw who didntb help me asking about candidas. She said yes, if you had autoimune (celiac etc) you would have bugs in your belly but once it starts to heal and you take anti fungals it will go!My mum is very hypot, 29 years old was told perimenopause. (Mine kicked off at 29 also). She has struggled with weight, depression, no libido (split with my dad due to this), cold all the time etc her gp hadn't tested thyroid until last year! It was so low the new GP said but she is not better on meds, dizzy, craving salt, high BP, depressed etc, dioreah, nausea...She went back to new gp and the doc said seems okay your tsh, at the weekends just take an extra one for more energy but stop if u get pains in your arms!!!!!!!That's ridiculous, we need to feel like we have energy and balanced all the time. You can see my mu is very hypo puffy etc...So we are going back changed gp but once she is sorted we are going to take her to nutritional/homeopath. Too sort out the candidas and allergies etc....I think they are great but the underlying cause needs to addressed by the nhs, candidas isJust a symptoms of something not working as it should....Sent using BlackBerry® from OrangeFrom: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@...>Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:38:41 -0800hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism >Subject: Re: Re: Living with one adrenal I have followed perhaps 50 folks with one adrenal and 10 who had both out which is aMuch bigger problem. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 20, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac> wrote: Must await ur 1 year renin Aldo tests Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 20, 2010, at 7:43 PM, langrallcarole <clangrallgmail> wrote: Terri-Thank so much for your candid post. I too, feel that there is a correlation between these organs. I also was told I am "cured", and while it will be a year next month- I still feel like there's some adrenal recalibration stuff going on. There are weeks I feel like I'm 20 again, but then something happens (maybe stress?) and I go into high fatigue mood, combined with depression. I no longer menstruate, but when I did it was excessive and I was put on hormornes-big surprise. I was also on and off prednisone for years and deep down I believe that drug is coming back to haunt me. I applaud your choice to seek alternative means, as will I. I have had it up to my head with Drs who don't even know what Conn's is, and simply factor in menopause (I'm also over that) or just age-am 47 yrs young. I am moving to New Mexico later this year and plan to locate a naturopath out there. I respect Dr. Grim for his expertise, but feel we are such a small group suffering from a relatively new disease, that there is still MUCH to be discovered by Conn's, and our adrenal glands. All I want is to live a "balanced" life where I can keep up with my loved ones and not be so exhausted.Peace-F.S.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > Dr. Grim,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > > > >> have been> > > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my goal > > > >> is to> > > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am almost > > > >> at a> > > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's ups > > > >> and> > > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can you? > > > >> I have> > > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and high> > > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please if > > > >> you are> > > >> > > > able~!> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Many thanks~> > > >> > > > Flower Spy> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Can you provide us with the data Dr. Grimm? Is it saved out there somewhere in this forum that I have yet to see? Surely you have to concede that this many people, post adrenalectomy or even still suffering cannot be wrong merely because science has yet to catch up with it? I think science has done wonders in helping to help those of us suffering from Conn's or post-op but the focus is primarily on the K deficiency and the high BP but what about all of the other symptoms that come along with adrenal dysfunction. While not as life threatening they are still life IMPACTING. Surely, all the members in this group complaining about seemingly unrelated symptoms from different races, health backgrounds, ages and countries can't be wrong because science doesn't yet say so. Perhaps this is a sign that someone (you or one of your colleagues) should start trying to see if there is a link??? There is lots of science talking about the correlation between the pituitary, adrenal and thyroid glands and how they interact with each other. There is also plenty of data on how thyroid dysfunction impacts a woman's ovaries and menstrual cycle, moods, etc. What is lacking in this science is something that addresses what happens to the delicate balance between these glands once one of the adrenal glands is removed. I agree with you Dr. Grimm, testimonials are not science but where does that leave those of us who science is ignoring under the guise of we're " cured " . Yes we very may well be cured of the K, aldo-renin and high BP but we are fully cured. We've now traded one set of symptoms for another and while less life altering I refuse to accept that this is as good as it is going to get. I am 31 and I want my damn life back and until science finds a way to help me deal with it I am going to be forced to find new ways to try to help myself. You seem to think the naturopaths are out to gauge us but that has not been my experience so far. Mine is trying to help me help myself through simple lifestyle changes not unlike some of what you are saying. As a registered dietician she recommended a diet very similar to DASH with a few modifications amongst other things. I don't need my aldo-renin checked – it's fine as is my bp and K. That isn't helpful to me but it's all you recommend to us. Wait it out and get checked after a year. Well I am 2 years post op. What now? I've had all the tests you recommend and nothing. No one can explain what is wrong with me and yet the naturopath seems very in tune with it and has plenty of books on the topic of adrenal fatigue. One of which I list here. http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/adrenal-fatigue-the-21st-century-stress-syndrome.h\ tml Dr. Grimm, I think the work you do here is fantastic and I love my peers in this group but let's not discount our members' experiences and testimonies merely because the science isn't there yet. We are above that ignorance. Let's work together to help one another and explore EVERY option available to us. I'm sorry but battling with more doctors once a new study is done isn't as high on my priority list as feeling good again. Nor am I willing to stand still untiI a doctor or scientist somewhere has time to properly study it. I've had a hard enough time getting them to read your article. Some were downright hostile that I dared bring them something and discredited you as an online quack...which we all know was not the appropriate response, right? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Dr. Grim, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > > > >> have been > > > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my > > goal > > > >> is to > > > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am > > almost > > > >> at a > > > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's > > ups > > > >> and > > > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can > > you? > > > >> I have > > > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and > > high > > > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please > > if > > > >> you are > > > >> > > > able~! > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks~ > > > >> > > > Flower Spy > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 hehe, nice catch > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Grim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > > have been > > > > > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my > > goal is to > > > > > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am > > almost at a > > > > > > > year post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's > > ups and > > > > > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can > > you? I have > > > > > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and > > high > > > > > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please > > if you are > > > > > > > able~! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks~ > > > > > > > Flower Spy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 You need to be sure they are not shills for naturopaths as well.CE Grim MDOn Feb 20, 2010, at 3:16 PM, langrallcarole wrote:Dr. Grim,Does that mean you discount their work? Several of the members of this group with my condition have contacted me that are using naturopaths and are feeling much better. Do you feel they shouldn't be pursued, and if so, are drugs our final answer?Thank you-Flowerspy> >> > >> >> > > > Dr. Grim,> >> > > >> >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > >> have been> >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my goal > >> is to> >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am almost > >> at a> >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's ups > >> and> >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can you? > >> I have> >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and high> >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please if > >> you are> >> > > > able~!> >> > > >> >> > > > Many thanks~> >> > > > Flower Spy> >> > > >> >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 You need to be sure they are not shills for naturopaths as well.CE Grim MDOn Feb 20, 2010, at 3:16 PM, langrallcarole wrote:Dr. Grim,Does that mean you discount their work? Several of the members of this group with my condition have contacted me that are using naturopaths and are feeling much better. Do you feel they shouldn't be pursued, and if so, are drugs our final answer?Thank you-Flowerspy> >> > >> >> > > > Dr. Grim,> >> > > >> >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > >> have been> >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my goal > >> is to> >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am almost > >> at a> >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's ups > >> and> >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can you? > >> I have> >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and high> >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please if > >> you are> >> > > > able~!> >> > > >> >> > > > Many thanks~> >> > > > Flower Spy> >> > > >> >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 What we need is someone here or elsewhere to collect the data so we can see if there is a relationship to one adrenal and I'll health. One problem is that those who do well leave so we don't have a good long term followup on those that do well. We and u seem to have a biased sample. It is also possible that many sx were never related to PA, or more likely IMHO The prob was in both adrenals and taking one out slowed things down but with Slow emergence of PA AGAIN it is not so easy to dx. Renin and aldo will become abnormal first before BP AND K. u may want to review my evolution article again. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 21, 2010, at 8:44 AM, terridelorenzo <terridelorenzo@...> wrote: Can you provide us with the data Dr. Grimm? Is it saved out there somewhere in this forum that I have yet to see? Surely you have to concede that this many people, post adrenalectomy or even still suffering cannot be wrong merely because science has yet to catch up with it? I think science has done wonders in helping to help those of us suffering from Conn's or post-op but the focus is primarily on the K deficiency and the high BP but what about all of the other symptoms that come along with adrenal dysfunction. While not as life threatening they are still life IMPACTING. Surely, all the members in this group complaining about seemingly unrelated symptoms from different races, health backgrounds, ages and countries can't be wrong because science doesn't yet say so. Perhaps this is a sign that someone (you or one of your colleagues) should start trying to see if there is a link??? There is lots of science talking about the correlation between the pituitary, adrenal and thyroid glands and how they interact with each other. There is also plenty of data on how thyroid dysfunction impacts a woman's ovaries and menstrual cycle, moods, etc. What is lacking in this science is something that addresses what happens to the delicate balance between these glands once one of the adrenal glands is removed. I agree with you Dr. Grimm, testimonials are not science but where does that leave those of us who science is ignoring under the guise of we're "cured". Yes we very may well be cured of the K, aldo-renin and high BP but we are fully cured. We've now traded one set of symptoms for another and while less life altering I refuse to accept that this is as good as it is going to get. I am 31 and I want my damn life back and until science finds a way to help me deal with it I am going to be forced to find new ways to try to help myself. You seem to think the naturopaths are out to gauge us but that has not been my experience so far. Mine is trying to help me help myself through simple lifestyle changes not unlike some of what you are saying. As a registered dietician she recommended a diet very similar to DASH with a few modifications amongst other things. I don't need my aldo-renin checked – it's fine as is my bp and K. That isn't helpful to me but it's all you recommend to us. Wait it out and get checked after a year. Well I am 2 years post op. What now? I've had all the tests you recommend and nothing. No one can explain what is wrong with me and yet the naturopath seems very in tune with it and has plenty of books on the topic of adrenal fatigue. One of which I list here. http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/adrenal-fatigue-the-21st-century-stress-syndrome.html Dr. Grimm, I think the work you do here is fantastic and I love my peers in this group but let's not discount our members' experiences and testimonies merely because the science isn't there yet. We are above that ignorance. Let's work together to help one another and explore EVERY option available to us. I'm sorry but battling with more doctors once a new study is done isn't as high on my priority list as feeling good again. Nor am I willing to stand still untiI a doctor or scientist somewhere has time to properly study it. I've had a hard enough time getting them to read your article. Some were downright hostile that I dared bring them something and discredited you as an online quack...which we all know was not the appropriate response, right? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Dr. Grim, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > > > >> have been > > > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my > > goal > > > >> is to > > > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am > > almost > > > >> at a > > > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's > > ups > > > >> and > > > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can > > you? > > > >> I have > > > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and > > high > > > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please > > if > > > >> you are > > > >> > > > able~! > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks~ > > > >> > > > Flower Spy > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 What we need is someone here or elsewhere to collect the data so we can see if there is a relationship to one adrenal and I'll health. One problem is that those who do well leave so we don't have a good long term followup on those that do well. We and u seem to have a biased sample. It is also possible that many sx were never related to PA, or more likely IMHO The prob was in both adrenals and taking one out slowed things down but with Slow emergence of PA AGAIN it is not so easy to dx. Renin and aldo will become abnormal first before BP AND K. u may want to review my evolution article again. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 21, 2010, at 8:44 AM, terridelorenzo <terridelorenzo@...> wrote: Can you provide us with the data Dr. Grimm? Is it saved out there somewhere in this forum that I have yet to see? Surely you have to concede that this many people, post adrenalectomy or even still suffering cannot be wrong merely because science has yet to catch up with it? I think science has done wonders in helping to help those of us suffering from Conn's or post-op but the focus is primarily on the K deficiency and the high BP but what about all of the other symptoms that come along with adrenal dysfunction. While not as life threatening they are still life IMPACTING. Surely, all the members in this group complaining about seemingly unrelated symptoms from different races, health backgrounds, ages and countries can't be wrong because science doesn't yet say so. Perhaps this is a sign that someone (you or one of your colleagues) should start trying to see if there is a link??? There is lots of science talking about the correlation between the pituitary, adrenal and thyroid glands and how they interact with each other. There is also plenty of data on how thyroid dysfunction impacts a woman's ovaries and menstrual cycle, moods, etc. What is lacking in this science is something that addresses what happens to the delicate balance between these glands once one of the adrenal glands is removed. I agree with you Dr. Grimm, testimonials are not science but where does that leave those of us who science is ignoring under the guise of we're "cured". Yes we very may well be cured of the K, aldo-renin and high BP but we are fully cured. We've now traded one set of symptoms for another and while less life altering I refuse to accept that this is as good as it is going to get. I am 31 and I want my damn life back and until science finds a way to help me deal with it I am going to be forced to find new ways to try to help myself. You seem to think the naturopaths are out to gauge us but that has not been my experience so far. Mine is trying to help me help myself through simple lifestyle changes not unlike some of what you are saying. As a registered dietician she recommended a diet very similar to DASH with a few modifications amongst other things. I don't need my aldo-renin checked – it's fine as is my bp and K. That isn't helpful to me but it's all you recommend to us. Wait it out and get checked after a year. Well I am 2 years post op. What now? I've had all the tests you recommend and nothing. No one can explain what is wrong with me and yet the naturopath seems very in tune with it and has plenty of books on the topic of adrenal fatigue. One of which I list here. http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/adrenal-fatigue-the-21st-century-stress-syndrome.html Dr. Grimm, I think the work you do here is fantastic and I love my peers in this group but let's not discount our members' experiences and testimonies merely because the science isn't there yet. We are above that ignorance. Let's work together to help one another and explore EVERY option available to us. I'm sorry but battling with more doctors once a new study is done isn't as high on my priority list as feeling good again. Nor am I willing to stand still untiI a doctor or scientist somewhere has time to properly study it. I've had a hard enough time getting them to read your article. Some were downright hostile that I dared bring them something and discredited you as an online quack...which we all know was not the appropriate response, right? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Dr. Grim, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > > > >> have been > > > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my > > goal > > > >> is to > > > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am > > almost > > > >> at a > > > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's > > ups > > > >> and > > > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can > > you? > > > >> I have > > > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and > > high > > > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please > > if > > > >> you are > > > >> > > > able~! > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks~ > > > >> > > > Flower Spy > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010  AND, BTW, you can spend that much at a Chiropractor nowadays. Regards Re: Re: Living with one adrenal Actually just discovered it. ThAnks. If anyone there wants one on one consultation I do 1 year for $500 and can save many lots of time trouble and Dollars. Work with them and their Drs. For 1 Year by email and tele and Skype b Tiped sad Send form mio iPhone ;-) May your pressure be low! CE Grim MD Specializing in Difficult Hypertension On Feb 20, 2010, at 8:13 PM, langrallcarole <clangrallgmail> wrote: adrenalectomy, sorry I was under the impression you read and responded to my blog> > > How long should this take after surgery? I feel like I'm 25 years > > younger on some days and then-wham! I am down with some serious > > fatigue. Does stress affect us differently now?> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 If anyone ever told u life was suppsed to be ez they lied. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 21, 2010, at 12:44 AM, moseleymand@... wrote: Yes, if you have both out wouldn't you then have addisons / adrenal insufficency?I think homeopaths are good for helping you maintain some level of well being until you get diagnosed. My homeopath thought it was just from antibiotics but after some months said you have an underlying problem, it won't go until you sort it out.I wrote to gastro I saw who didntb help me asking about candidas. She said yes, if you had autoimune (celiac etc) you would have bugs in your belly but once it starts to heal and you take anti fungals it will go!My mum is very hypot, 29 years old was told perimenopause. (Mine kicked off at 29 also). She has struggled with weight, depression, no libido (split with my dad due to this), cold all the time etc her gp hadn't tested thyroid until last year! It was so low the new GP said but she is not better on meds, dizzy, craving salt, high BP, depressed etc, dioreah, nausea...She went back to new gp and the doc said seems okay your tsh, at the weekends just take an extra one for more energy but stop if u get pains in your arms!!!!!!!That's ridiculous, we need to feel like we have energy and balanced all the time. You can see my mu is very hypo puffy etc...So we are going back changed gp but once she is sorted we are going to take her to nutritional/homeopath. Too sort out the candidas and allergies etc....I think they are great but the underlying cause needs to addressed by the nhs, candidas isJust a symptoms of something not working as it should....Sent using BlackBerry® from OrangeFrom: Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:38:41 -0800hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism >Subject: Re: Re: Living with one adrenal I have followed perhaps 50 folks with one adrenal and 10 who had both out which is aMuch bigger problem. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 20, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Clarence Grim <lowerbp2mac> wrote: Must await ur 1 year renin Aldo tests Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Feb 20, 2010, at 7:43 PM, langrallcarole <clangrallgmail> wrote: Terri- Thank so much for your candid post. I too, feel that there is a correlation between these organs. I also was told I am "cured", and while it will be a year next month- I still feel like there's some adrenal recalibration stuff going on. There are weeks I feel like I'm 20 again, but then something happens (maybe stress?) and I go into high fatigue mood, combined with depression. I no longer menstruate, but when I did it was excessive and I was put on hormornes-big surprise. I was also on and off prednisone for years and deep down I believe that drug is coming back to haunt me. I applaud your choice to seek alternative means, as will I. I have had it up to my head with Drs who don't even know what Conn's is, and simply factor in menopause (I'm also over that) or just age-am 47 yrs young. I am moving to New Mexico later this year and plan to locate a naturopath out there. I respect Dr. Grim for his expertise, but feel we are such a small group suffering from a relatively new disease, that there is still MUCH to be discovered by Conn's, and our adrenal glands. All I want is to live a "balanced" life where I can keep up with my loved ones and not be so exhausted. Peace-F.S. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Dr. Grim, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Thank you for reading, posting and supporting my blog...I > > > >> have been > > > >> > > > through a lot with Conn's as so many of us have, and my goal > > > >> is to > > > >> > > > help others through this often difficult journey. I am almost > > > >> at a > > > >> > >! > ye ar post-surgery, and living with one adrenal has it's ups > > > >> and > > > >> > > > downs. None of my docs seem to know what to tell me, can you? > > > >> I have > > > >> > > > noticed some serious fatigue after physical exertion and high > > > >> > > > stress, I want to know if this is normal?! Help me please if > > > >> you are > > > >> > > > able~! > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Many thanks~ > > > >> > > > Flower Spy > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > http://hyperaldosteronism.blogspot.com/ > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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