Re: cheap ozone generator: www.ozgenerators.com ?

[Guest guest]

Hello Jim, Others,

Jim I did find site mentioned below, and sometimes as I suspect

you know, the site is down for web page work or even web server

could be down.So site does not show up.

Retry site again and think you will be successful..then site and

product will be out of rumor mill.

take care

mike slivinski

On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:09:25 -0400 Jim Lambert <jlambert@...>

writes:

> falko,

>

> Can't help you there because the site you list is not there. The

> generator you mention is, therefor, rumorware. ;-)

>

> jim

>

> f.r.@... wrote:

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I am new to this group, I am detoxing amalgam poisoning with high

> > dosages of DMSA since half a year and added now ozonisated olive

> oil

> > (oral) to speed up detoxing.

> > Now i want to buy an ozone generator.

> > I found a cheap one in the web: www.ozgenerators.com .($642.00 US,

> > oxygen fed, cold plasma glass tube )

> > Has anyone heard about it.

> > Any comments ?

> >

> > Falko

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[Guest guest]

falko,

Can't help you there because the site you list is not there. The

generator you mention is, therefor, rumorware. ;-)

jim

f.r.@... wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> I am new to this group, I am detoxing amalgam poisoning with high

> dosages of DMSA since half a year and added now ozonisated olive oil

> (oral) to speed up detoxing.

> Now i want to buy an ozone generator.

> I found a cheap one in the web: www.ozgenerators.com .($642.00 US,

> oxygen fed, cold plasma glass tube )

> Has anyone heard about it.

> Any comments ?

>

> Falko

-----

The TRUTH in 11 words:

Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened!

-- anon

jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

http://www.entrance.to/poetry

[Guest guest]

Dr Pressman, I know you have written about Cold-plasma/ glass tube vs.

other kinds, but could you explain pros-cons once more.

I have seen one kind of O gen advertised on http://keephope.net for

about $350; I'm assuming this is a " tackle box " sized, (steel?) tubed

sort.

Also, what is your opinion on oral OOO; I had a negative experience

with it; however, my condition was not good at the time, so maybe it was

a case of too much/ too soon, and controlled doses might be okay?

Thanks

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I am new to this group, I am detoxing amalgam poisoning with high

> > dosages of DMSA since half a year and added now ozonisated olive

oil

> > (oral) to speed up detoxing.

> > Now i want to buy an ozone generator.

> > I found a cheap one in the web: www.ozgenerators.com .($642.00 US,

> > oxygen fed, cold plasma glass tube )

> > Has anyone heard about it.

> > Any comments ?

> >

> > Falko

> -----

> The TRUTH in 11 words:

> Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what

happened!

> -- anon

>

> jlambert@i... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

> http://www.entrance.to/poetry

[Guest guest]

i looked at the site good price not a rip off price i buy the

same

oxygen tanks and regulators from the manufactuer and i know how much

those cost wholesale good price also the manufactuer is in canada

the 604 area code vancouver area i have a friend who buy cold

plasma generator tubes from asia and i know they are cheap from

there

not sure who builds these tubes but the case is the right case to

use

a " pelican style case " i will talk the the people at the number and

respond back will find out the output of the system put this

generator with a portable home sauna that i have for 200$ and you

have a nice home sauna kit for under 1000$ good luck b o

http://www.oxygenozone.com

[Guest guest]

Mike, Falko, et al,

OK, I got to the site with a different address, but I do NOT trust sites

that do not exist. In other words, when I go to www.ozgenerators.com,

Mike, I get a page saying the URL name has recently been purchased. This

is not a web site where the server is down, nor is it under repair. It

isn't there! But, as I went around their site from the address falko

supplied in his second post, it looks like their web programmer goofed

with his html. On my server, as long as my home page is named home.* or

index.* it becomes the default home page. That doesn't seem to be the

case on this site. If anyone here contacts them, please tell them folks

are having trouble accessing their web address using the URL name.

Web sites that don't seem professional make me wonder how long has the

company been in business? How long will it be in business? The reason

non-functioning/non-professional web sites for a business bothers me is

that the companies that manufactured the first two ozone generators I

bought are no longer in business!

Now, Falko, to answer some of your questions as best I can. The page you

directed me to has some info, but not much. Running around their site, I

can't find any more info. First, IMO, cold plasma is the preferred

design for several reasons. It doesn't wear out because it uses a low

current plasma to make ozone, so there is no arcing of electrodes to

burn out. I can afford a generator now, but will I be able to replace it

in 6-10 years?

Cold plasma generators also have an upper limit of the concentration of

ozone it produces. A cold plasma unit's output is just below the

concentration that becomes harmful to a human. So, it has a built-in

safety factor. Their price looks good! I'd like to know more about their

equipment. At first glance it is appealing.

The drawback to the design is that it has a low output, compared to a

corona discharge type unit. So, I wonder about the output of this

generator? Is it enough for a sauna, say? The first one I bought was

only powerful enough for insufflation & cupping, so I had to replace it

when I decided to get the sauna. On this web site they list many methods

for using ozone, but not the sauna. Since the ozone sauna has 120+ years

of safe & effective use, I would think they would mention it.

I grew up in advertising, so I always look for what the advertiser is

not telling me. You know what I mean? When an ad doesn't tell you the

price, it is high. If they don't tell you the speed, it is slow & if

they don't list the output, it is low. If this unit had much output, I

would think they would be proud of it and say what it is. Maybe they are

just new and haven't ironed out the wrinkles. Maybe they don't believe

in saunas. There are a lot of maybes, so I would want to know more. At

first glance they look possible.

jim

f.r.@... wrote:

>

>

> > falko,

> >

> > Can't help you there because the site you list is not there. The

> > generator you mention is, therefor, rumorware. ;-)

> >

> > jim

>

> Hi Jim,

>

> I copied a sample of the site:

> http://www.ozgenerators.com/

>

> " Welcome to the home page of Ozone Generators. We manufacture a

> multipurpose ozone generator, suitable for both professional and home

> use. Our ozone generator is built with a cold plasma glass tube to

> ensure a pure, uncontaminated output of ozone. The Ozone Generator is

> offered at the best price available.

>

> Generator (c/w hoses and water bubbler)

> $995.00 Cnd ($642.00 US)

> Regulator and Tank (aluminum 'D' size)

> $225.00 Cnd each ($145.00 US)

> for more information, call:

> (604) 826-2378

> or contact us by e-mail

> Ozgenerators@... "

>

> the generator looks like a car battery - cheap plastic look,

> but who knows what is inside ?

>

> greetings,

> Falko

-----

The TRUTH in 11 words:

Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened!

-- anon

jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

http://www.entrance.to/poetry

[Guest guest]

Mike, Falko, et al,

OK, I got to the site with a different address, but I do NOT trust sites

that do not exist. In other words, when I go to www.ozgenerators.com,

Mike, I get a page saying the URL name has recently been purchased. This

is not a web site where the server is down, nor is it under repair. It

isn't there! But, as I went around their site from the address falko

supplied in his second post, it looks like their web programmer goofed

with his html. On my server, as long as my home page is named home.* or

index.* it becomes the default home page. That doesn't seem to be the

case on this site. If anyone here contacts them, please tell them folks

are having trouble accessing their web address using the URL name.

Web sites that don't seem professional make me wonder how long has the

company been in business? How long will it be in business? The reason

non-functioning/non-professional web sites for a business bothers me is

that the companies that manufactured the first two ozone generators I

bought are no longer in business!

Now, Falko, to answer some of your questions as best I can. The page you

directed me to has some info, but not much. Running around their site, I

can't find any more info. First, IMO, cold plasma is the preferred

design for several reasons. It doesn't wear out because it uses a low

current plasma to make ozone, so there is no arcing of electrodes to

burn out. I can afford a generator now, but will I be able to replace it

in 6-10 years?

Cold plasma generators also have an upper limit of the concentration of

ozone it produces. A cold plasma unit's output is just below the

concentration that becomes harmful to a human. So, it has a built-in

safety factor. Their price looks good! I'd like to know more about their

equipment. At first glance it is appealing.

The drawback to the design is that it has a low output, compared to a

corona discharge type unit. So, I wonder about the output of this

generator? Is it enough for a sauna, say? The first one I bought was

only powerful enough for insufflation & cupping, so I had to replace it

when I decided to get the sauna. On this web site they list many methods

for using ozone, but not the sauna. Since the ozone sauna has 120+ years

of safe & effective use, I would think they would mention it.

I grew up in advertising, so I always look for what the advertiser is

not telling me. You know what I mean? When an ad doesn't tell you the

price, it is high. If they don't tell you the speed, it is slow & if

they don't list the output, it is low. If this unit had much output, I

would think they would be proud of it and say what it is. Maybe they are

just new and haven't ironed out the wrinkles. Maybe they don't believe

in saunas. There are a lot of maybes, so I would want to know more. At

first glance they look possible.

jim

f.r.@... wrote:

>

>

> > falko,

> >

> > Can't help you there because the site you list is not there. The

> > generator you mention is, therefor, rumorware. ;-)

> >

> > jim

>

> Hi Jim,

>

> I copied a sample of the site:

> http://www.ozgenerators.com/

>

> " Welcome to the home page of Ozone Generators. We manufacture a

> multipurpose ozone generator, suitable for both professional and home

> use. Our ozone generator is built with a cold plasma glass tube to

> ensure a pure, uncontaminated output of ozone. The Ozone Generator is

> offered at the best price available.

>

> Generator (c/w hoses and water bubbler)

> $995.00 Cnd ($642.00 US)

> Regulator and Tank (aluminum 'D' size)

> $225.00 Cnd each ($145.00 US)

> for more information, call:

> (604) 826-2378

> or contact us by e-mail

> Ozgenerators@... "

>

> the generator looks like a car battery - cheap plastic look,

> but who knows what is inside ?

>

> greetings,

> Falko

-----

The TRUTH in 11 words:

Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened!

-- anon

jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

http://www.entrance.to/poetry

[Guest guest]

I spoke with the women,Alana, who puts together the generators her

son, Matt, does the marketing the generators put out

25ug/ml at 1/8 liter flow decent amount nice safe home unit for

a

beginner the price is right she buys her cold plasma generators

from a scientific supply house she has been building them for

several years now and just started to market them on the web she

worked with a fellow Byron back in the day from the Vancouver area

who was building cold plasma system so she seems to have a good

handle on what the machine is possible of and its uses she has a

water bubbler available for it and also a olive oil bubbler nice

person seems like a good product good luck with your travels down

the ozone hyway b o http://www.oxygenozone.com

[Guest guest]

I spoke with the women,Alana, who puts together the generators her

son, Matt, does the marketing the generators put out

25ug/ml at 1/8 liter flow decent amount nice safe home unit for

a

beginner the price is right she buys her cold plasma generators

from a scientific supply house she has been building them for

several years now and just started to market them on the web she

worked with a fellow Byron back in the day from the Vancouver area

who was building cold plasma system so she seems to have a good

handle on what the machine is possible of and its uses she has a

water bubbler available for it and also a olive oil bubbler nice

person seems like a good product good luck with your travels down

the ozone hyway b o http://www.oxygenozone.com

[Guest guest]

its good to hear everyones opinion about these ozgenerators saul

knows his stuff for sure

im looking for a good ozone generator system to supply to friends and

family

what are the favorites out there??

i have several ozone systems myself plasmafire, ozone services ,

hansler, pacific ozone company , azco industries i like them all

and use them all im interested in seeing what are the favorites of

the members here any input would be apprecitated why do you like

the one you have and what are the best and worst things about it ? i

was also interested if plasmafire still sells systems?? i go to

their web site but not much has been up for a while now thanxs for

the help b o http://www.oxygenozone.com

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

We have been down since December 1999 when we were raided by Health Canada.

Literature is available from me directly.

And yes we sell systems.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

Re: cheap ozone generator: www.ozgenerators.com ?

> its good to hear everyones opinion about these ozgenerators saul

> knows his stuff for sure

> im looking for a good ozone generator system to supply to friends and

> family

> what are the favorites out there??

> i have several ozone systems myself plasmafire, ozone services ,

> hansler, pacific ozone company , azco industries i like them all

> and use them all im interested in seeing what are the favorites of

> the members here any input would be apprecitated why do you like

> the one you have and what are the best and worst things about it ? i

> was also interested if plasmafire still sells systems?? i go to

> their web site but not much has been up for a while now thanxs for

> the help b o http://www.oxygenozone.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

We have been down since December 1999 when we were raided by Health Canada.

Literature is available from me directly.

And yes we sell systems.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

Re: cheap ozone generator: www.ozgenerators.com ?

> its good to hear everyones opinion about these ozgenerators saul

> knows his stuff for sure

> im looking for a good ozone generator system to supply to friends and

> family

> what are the favorites out there??

> i have several ozone systems myself plasmafire, ozone services ,

> hansler, pacific ozone company , azco industries i like them all

> and use them all im interested in seeing what are the favorites of

> the members here any input would be apprecitated why do you like

> the one you have and what are the best and worst things about it ? i

> was also interested if plasmafire still sells systems?? i go to

> their web site but not much has been up for a while now thanxs for

> the help b o http://www.oxygenozone.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Saul

can you fill me in on what happened?? when you say you where

raided?? sorry to hear this you can email me information on your

systems o2o3@... thanxs b o

[Guest guest]

Saul

can you fill me in on what happened?? when you say you where

raided?? sorry to hear this you can email me information on your

systems o2o3@... thanxs b o

[Guest guest]

Colin, how do you use your magnets to treat drinking

water?

Joy

--- Colin Yardley <cyardley@...> wrote:

> > Dear Falko,

> >

> > I know what is inside this generator, because I

> have one.

> >

> > The manufacturer is Byron Fox (his current name),

> who makes a low powered

> > generator (used to be called Immunozone) that uses

> high frequency to push

> up

> > the output from a very short tube. The output is

> very low, although

> greater

> > than the Portazone.

>

> Dear Saul, Falko and other prospective buyers:

> For what it's worth, some years ago, my partner and

> I purchased a couple

> 'magnetic mattresses' from a chap named Byron Fox.

> We should've known

> better. They were real cheapo devices consisting of

> a cheapo slab of foam

> with cheapo magnets glued to one side. I've since

> stripped the magnets off

> and use them to treat drinking water.

> caveat emptor

> Colin Yardley

>

>

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