Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 should the normal human pee? I've been working very hard to drink the Water Diet recommondation of half my body weight in ounces of water. However, now I pee about every thirty minutes.... It's annoying when I'm home, but makes it difficult to go out if one doesn't scope out all the places enroute to make sure a " facility " is near by.... :| Lizzie http://pg.photos./ph/chain3turn/my_photos http://www.livejournal.com/users/samplerlady/ http://literarylady.blogspot.com/ " To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. " ph Chilton Pierce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2005 Report Share Posted September 27, 2005 It depends on respiration, digestion, circulation, practically every body function needs water. The body recycles all but about 10 of the 40,000 glasses of water that it uses every day. About 400 gallons of blood pass through the kidneys each day, and about 50 gallons is actually filtered. Of this amount only about 5-6 cups of water are lost in the urine. Another 2 cups is exhaled through the lungs in the form of water vapor, ½ cup is lost through the bowels and 2 cups are evaporated from the skin through the 2 million sweat glands located there. Of the 10 cups of water lost per day, we gain about three cups in the food we eat and another one and a half is available as a byproduct of energy metabolism. This leaves five and a half cups of water per day that must be replaced by drinking water. Of course this is the minimum requirement. It is a healthful idea to drink more than that to insure that we have all we need. Several factors can increase our daily need of water. living in a hot, dry climate or at higher altitudes, as well as physical exercise and sickness, can increase our need by 80% percent or more. An excessive amount of salt, sugar, or protein in the diet requires more water to process. Vomiting, diarrhea, lactation, and even a runny nose increase water loss and must be replaced by drinking water. http://www.projectrestore.com/library/health/water.htm If you are eliminating that much water a day I would keep a check on your potassium. HTH CherylC ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 9/23/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 you may be drinking to much water I know for a fact that minerals are leached out of the body if you drink a lot of water you may want to get a drink with electrolities in it I know most drinks these days have sugar but there are a few that don't with just water and the electrolytes. and supplement some plain water doses with the water electrolytes. How often.... should the normal human pee? I've been working very hard to drink the Water Diet recommondation of half my body weight in ounces of water. However, now I pee about every thirty minutes.... It's annoying when I'm home, but makes it difficult to go out if one doesn't scope out all the places enroute to make sure a " facility " is near by.... :| Lizzie http://pg.photos./ph/chain3turn/my_photos http://www.livejournal.com/users/samplerlady/ http://literarylady.blogspot.com/ " To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. " ph Chilton Pierce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Best electrolyte replacer on the planet is young coconut water. You know the white coconuts they whack the top off of and stick a straw in? My son rode in a 250 mile bike ride and coconut water blended with bananas was all he ate from 3:30 a.m. to 10:30 p.m. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 > should the normal human pee? < Here is my understanding of this: When your body is dehydrated it needs to be consistently hydrated (1/2 your body wt. in oz.) in order to function properly. When you don't drink enough water, your body retains it in an effort to keep hydrated, hence water weight gain (although there are other factors that also contribute to this). Once you start keeping your body hydrated the excess urination is the unloading of that extra water and toxins your body was holding on to. Once your body is sufficiently hydrated and is maintained, the amount of time you spend in the bathroom will decrease. This is not a one or two day process, it can take some time. Consistency is the key. As far as electolytes are concerned, yes you can deplete them with too much water but my understanding is that it takes a LOT of water; you would have to really over do it for that to happen. I have also been using celtic sea salt in my filtered water to enhance my mineral intake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 where I used to work we had people that drank so much water that the doctors called it water drunkenness not enough electrolytes where kept in the blood. I believe they drank in excess of more than 12- 14 cups of water a day or something like that but these where very small people with not much meat on their bodies. Very sad I was told I don't know if it is true that since they barely ate and they drank so much water compared to what they weighted that they where addicted to the euphoria experience that happened when they did this kind of like alcohol addiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 where I used to work we had people that drank so much water that the doctors called it water drunkenness not enough electrolytes where kept in the blood. I believe they drank in excess of more than 12- 14 cups of water a day or something like that but these where very small people with not much meat on their bodies. Very sad I was told I don't know if it is true that since they barely ate and they drank so much water compared to what they weighted that they where addicted to the euphoria experience that happened when they did this kind of like alcohol addiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 I drink about 3 gallons (24 cups) of distilled water a day (out of gallon jugs so I'm not exaggerating) and work hard at work (meaning I sweat) and I haven't had any electrolyte problems. I believe that sweat is a way the body gets rid of toxins and that the saltiness of sweat may mean there's too much in the body so it's getting rid of it. Sodium and potassium should be 50/50 in the body but most people eat much more sodium than potassium which is bad for the mitochondria (the energy producers in the cell). Jim Re: How often.... > where I used to work we had people that drank so much water that the > doctors called it water drunkenness not enough electrolytes where kept in > the blood. I believe they drank in excess of more than 12- 14 cups of > water a day or something like that but these where very small people with > not much meat on their bodies. Very sad I was told I don't know if it is > true that since they barely ate and they drank so much water compared to > what they weighted that they where addicted to the euphoria experience > that happened when they did this kind of like alcohol addiction. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 This is why universal prescriptions for optimal water intake are chancy at best. People who work physically hard, working up a sweat and/or working the muscles hard for long hours every day, need more water to replace that lost in sweating and to facilitate healing the muscles. --V At 03:03 PM 9/30/2005 -0500, you wrote: >I drink about 3 gallons (24 cups) of distilled water a day (out of gallon >jugs so I'm not exaggerating) and work hard at work (meaning I sweat) and I >haven't had any electrolyte problems. I believe that sweat is a way the >body gets rid of toxins and that the saltiness of sweat may mean there's too >much in the body so it's getting rid of it. Sodium and potassium should be >50/50 in the body but most people eat much more sodium than potassium which >is bad for the mitochondria (the energy producers in the cell). > >Jim vbaker@... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 9/30/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 This is why universal prescriptions for optimal water intake are chancy at best. People who work physically hard, working up a sweat and/or working the muscles hard for long hours every day, need more water to replace that lost in sweating and to facilitate healing the muscles. --V At 03:03 PM 9/30/2005 -0500, you wrote: >I drink about 3 gallons (24 cups) of distilled water a day (out of gallon >jugs so I'm not exaggerating) and work hard at work (meaning I sweat) and I >haven't had any electrolyte problems. I believe that sweat is a way the >body gets rid of toxins and that the saltiness of sweat may mean there's too >much in the body so it's getting rid of it. Sodium and potassium should be >50/50 in the body but most people eat much more sodium than potassium which >is bad for the mitochondria (the energy producers in the cell). > >Jim vbaker@... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 9/30/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 3 gallons a day still seems excessive, and i know about sweating, i live in arizona. i would hazard a guess that your eating plenty of foods that replace your electrolytes. there is such a thing as too much h20, though, we just had someone die from hyponutrimia here in phoenix this summer. -ashe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 3 gallons a day still seems excessive, and i know about sweating, i live in arizona. i would hazard a guess that your eating plenty of foods that replace your electrolytes. there is such a thing as too much h20, though, we just had someone die from hyponutrimia here in phoenix this summer. -ashe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 > you may be drinking to much water Well, I wasn't even drinking what the water cure recommends. However, my acupuncturist fixed it and now my kidneys/bladder is acting within the normal range. I did find a site today that stated humans should visit the bathroom about 7-12 times a day. I easily still do that, but most people I know don't. Lizzie http://pg.photos./ph/chain3turn/my_photos http://www.livejournal.com/users/samplerlady/ http://literarylady.blogspot.com/ " To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. " ph Chilton Pierce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 > you may be drinking to much water Well, I wasn't even drinking what the water cure recommends. However, my acupuncturist fixed it and now my kidneys/bladder is acting within the normal range. I did find a site today that stated humans should visit the bathroom about 7-12 times a day. I easily still do that, but most people I know don't. Lizzie http://pg.photos./ph/chain3turn/my_photos http://www.livejournal.com/users/samplerlady/ http://literarylady.blogspot.com/ " To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. " ph Chilton Pierce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 > I have also been using celtic sea salt in my filtered water to > enhance my mineral intake. My hat's off to you. I tried putting the salt (half the recommended amount) and I just really had to force myself to drink it. Lizzie http://pg.photos./ph/chain3turn/my_photos http://www.livejournal.com/users/samplerlady/ http://literarylady.blogspot.com/ " To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. " ph Chilton Pierce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 > I have also been using celtic sea salt in my filtered water to > enhance my mineral intake. My hat's off to you. I tried putting the salt (half the recommended amount) and I just really had to force myself to drink it. Lizzie http://pg.photos./ph/chain3turn/my_photos http://www.livejournal.com/users/samplerlady/ http://literarylady.blogspot.com/ " To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. " ph Chilton Pierce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Author and life extension specialist Bragg was a pioneer in fasting and advocated drinking only distilled water. This is a quote from " The Miracle of Fasting " : Death Valley Hike Proved Salt Dangerous Most people have the preconceived idea that salt lost through perspiring must be immediately replaced. Many factories supply salt tablets to their workers. They mistakenly believe these are helpful! But are these salt tablets necessary? In my opinion: " No! " To prove definitely to myself that I did not need salt during extremely hot weather, I went to Death Valley, California, one of the hottest spots in the entire world during July and August. On my first test I hired 10 husky, strong college athletes to make the hike in Death Valley from Furnace Creek Ranch to Stovepipe Wells, a distance of approximately 30 miles. The boys had salt tablets and all the water they could drink...and a station wagon filled with plenty of food that contained salty foods like bread, buns, crackers, cheese, luncheon meats and hot dogs. They each ate, drank and took as many salt tablets as they desired. I had no salt, no food, only water during the 30 mile hike. We began the hike on a sweltering July morning. The higher the sun rose, the hotter it became! Up went the heat until at noon it stood at 130 degrees - a dry, hot heat that seemed to want to melt and defeat all of us! The college boys gobbled the salt tablets and guzzled quarts of cool water. For lunch they drank cola drinks with ham and cheese sandwiches. We rested a half hour after lunch and then continued our rugged hike across the red hot blazing sands. Soon things were beginning to happen to those strong, husky college boys. First, 3 of them got violently ill and threw up all they had eaten and drank for lunch. They got dizzy and turned deathly pale and great weakness overcame them. They quit the hike immediately! They were driven back to the Furnace Creek Ranch in poor condition. The hike went on with 7 college athletes continuing. As we hiked, they drank large amounts of cold water, soft drinks and took more salt tablets. Then suddenly 5 of them got stomach cramps and became deathly ill. Up came the drinks and their lunch. These 5 had to be driven back to the ranch. That left 2 out of 10 hikers. It was now about 4 pm and the merciless sun beat down on us with great fury. Almost on the hour, the last remaining salt tablet-eating athlete collapsed under that hot, burning sun and had to be rushed back to the ranch for medical care. Only the Non-Salt User Finishes Hike That left me alone on the test...and I felt as fresh as a daisy! I was not full of salt tablets and I was not full of food because I was on a complete fast. The college boys wanted cold drinks, but I drank only pure distilled water, not chilled. I finished the 30 mile hike in around 10 1/2 hours and I had no ill effects whatsoever! I camped out for the night. The next day I arose early and hikes another 30 miles back to the ranch without food or salt tablets. The doctors gave me a thorough examination and found me in perfect condition! I am ready and willing to repeat this hike across Death Valley, California for any scientific group that wants to do research on man's mythical " need " for salt. (I get organic sodium from my food.) " Besides Bragg's book " The Miracle of Fasting " , In " Young Again! " says the same thing about salt- avoid it like the plague. I highly recommend both books. Like Trudeau they mention a LOT of things you won't hear from the mainstream medical community. Jim Re: How often.... >3 gallons a day still seems excessive, and i know about sweating, i > live in arizona. i would hazard a guess that your eating plenty of > foods that replace your electrolytes. there is such a thing as too > much h20, though, we just had someone die from hyponutrimia here in > phoenix this summer. > -ashe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 " I did find a site today that stated humans should visit the bathroom about 7-12 times a day. I easily still do that, but most people I know don't. " This makes me smile, I am one of these people! But have you seen the add on t.v. that says " if you visit the restroom more than 6 times in 24 hours....... " They think that is TOO much and they have a pill to stop you from peeing for long periods of time!!! Isn't that dehydration? Doesn't make any sense to me at all, but then drugs don't make any sense to me at all! Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 " I did find a site today that stated humans should visit the bathroom about 7-12 times a day. I easily still do that, but most people I know don't. " This makes me smile, I am one of these people! But have you seen the add on t.v. that says " if you visit the restroom more than 6 times in 24 hours....... " They think that is TOO much and they have a pill to stop you from peeing for long periods of time!!! Isn't that dehydration? Doesn't make any sense to me at all, but then drugs don't make any sense to me at all! Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 oh man, how absurd!!!! And how completely unhealty!! I shiver when I think about the 'normal'. Just be who you are that is the most normal thing you can do! love, Vera in Belgium doing a lot of 'not-normal' things in the eyes of others, and just loving it Re: How often.... " I did find a site today that stated humans should visit the bathroom about 7-12 times a day. I easily still do that, but most people I know don't. " This makes me smile, I am one of these people! But have you seen the add on t.v. that says " if you visit the restroom more than 6 times in 24 hours....... " They think that is TOO much and they have a pill to stop you from peeing for long periods of time!!! Isn't that dehydration? Doesn't make any sense to me at all, but then drugs don't make any sense to me at all! Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 >Well, I wasn't even drinking what the water cure recommends. However, >my acupuncturist fixed it and now my kidneys/bladder is acting within >the normal range. Ah. So the answer to why you were having to go too often was an imbalance in the system which has been corrected through acupuncture. Very good, thank you for letting us know. >I did find a site today that stated humans should visit the bathroom >about 7-12 times a day. I easily still do that, but most people I >know don't. > >Lizzie Right. Most people do not get enough water. --V vbaker@... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 9/30/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 >Well, I wasn't even drinking what the water cure recommends. However, >my acupuncturist fixed it and now my kidneys/bladder is acting within >the normal range. Ah. So the answer to why you were having to go too often was an imbalance in the system which has been corrected through acupuncture. Very good, thank you for letting us know. >I did find a site today that stated humans should visit the bathroom >about 7-12 times a day. I easily still do that, but most people I >know don't. > >Lizzie Right. Most people do not get enough water. --V vbaker@... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 9/30/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Jim-- I grew up in the Arizona desert, and anyone who has knows that pouring down cold drinks and stuffing with food in the heat of the day is a bad idea. It's unclear to me what would have happened in that situation if the salt tablets had not also been accompanied by overeating and drinking. But I know that the salt that is sold and used by most consumers, including salt tablets, which has been bleached, heat treated, etc., is not good for people. As an experiment it was almost bound to have the results it did. Obviously Bragg is an exceptional person, as well. But, getting enough nutrients from foods today is almost impossible because of demineralization of soil, even with organic foods, even if one eats " perfectly " . And most of us don't have the time to live each day in pursuit of such perfection. That's a practical reality that also needs to be taken into account, imo. -- At 06:18 AM 10/1/2005, you wrote: >Author and life extension specialist Bragg was a pioneer in fasting and >advocated drinking only distilled water. This is a quote from " The Miracle >of Fasting " : vbaker@... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 9/30/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Jim-- I grew up in the Arizona desert, and anyone who has knows that pouring down cold drinks and stuffing with food in the heat of the day is a bad idea. It's unclear to me what would have happened in that situation if the salt tablets had not also been accompanied by overeating and drinking. But I know that the salt that is sold and used by most consumers, including salt tablets, which has been bleached, heat treated, etc., is not good for people. As an experiment it was almost bound to have the results it did. Obviously Bragg is an exceptional person, as well. But, getting enough nutrients from foods today is almost impossible because of demineralization of soil, even with organic foods, even if one eats " perfectly " . And most of us don't have the time to live each day in pursuit of such perfection. That's a practical reality that also needs to be taken into account, imo. -- At 06:18 AM 10/1/2005, you wrote: >Author and life extension specialist Bragg was a pioneer in fasting and >advocated drinking only distilled water. This is a quote from " The Miracle >of Fasting " : vbaker@... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 9/30/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 That's why one should take supplements. Expecting to get any benefit other than hydration from water is foolish. Jim Re: How often.... > Jim-- I grew up in the Arizona desert, and anyone who has knows that > pouring down cold drinks and stuffing with food in the heat of the > day is a bad idea. It's unclear to me what would have happened in > that situation if the salt tablets had not also been accompanied by > overeating and drinking. But I know that the salt that is sold and > used by most consumers, including salt tablets, which has been > bleached, heat treated, etc., is not good for people. As an > experiment it was almost bound to have the results it did. Obviously > Bragg is an exceptional person, as well. But, getting enough > nutrients from foods today is almost impossible because of > demineralization of soil, even with organic foods, even if one eats > " perfectly " . And most of us don't have the time to live each day in > pursuit of such perfection. That's a practical reality that also > needs to be taken into account, imo. > > -- > > At 06:18 AM 10/1/2005, you wrote: > >>Author and life extension specialist Bragg was a pioneer in fasting >>and >>advocated drinking only distilled water. This is a quote from " The >>Miracle >>of Fasting " : > > > > > vbaker@... > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 9/30/2005 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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