Can HUMMING be stopped or helped?

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KT wrote:

>

> Is there any sort of sensory feedback that can be given to reduce this

> humming? Thanks.

Not that I know of. Louie has hummed all his life, and he's 26 now.

I have always believed it to be a stim, so the most we've ever done

about it is just tell him " No humming please, " when we're in a public

place, but only if it gets loud enough to be noticeable. I have no idea

what happens at his house, but I suspect that (since the agency was set

up by an autistics mom) he's not hindered in it. I wouldn't worry about

it. In the general scheme of things, this is pretty small potatoes (not

downplaying your concern, of course). Just let him know that this is a

" home-based " stim, and give him reminders if he starts in public. We've

used the " only at home " strategy successfully with any number of things,

from spontaneous nudity to masturbation (those only in his room) to

yelling out loudly to scratching his butt.

Annie, who loves ya annie@...

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“He knows so little and knows it so fluently.” -- Ellen Glasgow

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Thank you I just figure that our kids are special and if we

concentrated on what they do that is special and positive, they become

more acceptable to us and therefore society as well.

Cure my son? Heck no, I love him because God made him special

Controversial response? Yes... but hey I have two on the spectrum, it

adds spice to my otherwise boring existence

Blessings

Jen

pkuenstler@... wrote:

> Jen, that is a great attitude; thanks for sharing. Pat K

>

>

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> KT wrote:

>>

>> Is there any sort of sensory feedback that can be given to reduce this

>> humming? Thanks.

>

Annie wrote:

> Not that I know of. Louie has hummed all his life, and he's 26 now.

> I have always believed it to be a stim, so the most we've ever done

> about it is just tell him " No humming please, " when we're in a public

> place, but only if it gets loud enough to be noticeable.

I am inclined to think it's a stim too. Telling him to stop could be very

counterproductive. He may replace it with something even less socially

acceptable. Or he may have to work so hard at not doing it that he

completely loses the ability listen/speak/behave.

in England

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Humming is a verbal stimm. I remember running to the Neurologist

with a noise my daughter use to make at a very young age droped it

then picked it up again a year or so later. I thought she was

regressing. This is what the neurologist told me.

You may not be able to control the humming but maybe have him do it

in a lower volume.

> > Not that I know of. Louie has hummed all his life, and he's 26

now.

> > I have always believed it to be a stim, so the most we've ever

done

> > about it is just tell him " No humming please, " when we're in a

public

> > place, but only if it gets loud enough to be noticeable.

>

> I am inclined to think it's a stim too. Telling him to stop could

be very

> counterproductive. He may replace it with something even less

socially

> acceptable. Or he may have to work so hard at not doing it that he

> completely loses the ability listen/speak/behave.

>

> in England

>

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Jen, that is a great attitude; thanks for sharing. Pat K

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Mine too we do exactly the same thing . Its almost gone now .Hes

not quite 6.

He still does it when he eats alone occasionally .we dont bother him

if its not bothering anyone else .

> My son used to do this when he ate...it got really loud sometimes.

>

> We just reminded him to eat quietly and he eventually grew out of it.

>

> He's almost 7 now.

>-aspergers] Can HUMMING be stopped or helped?

>

>it is just nonsensical humming. Often, he does

> it when he is eating quietly at the kitchen table or in the shower

> but he also may do it when he is just walking around and not

> otherwise engaged.

>

> What causes this humming? Is it usually a sensory problem. It is

> not horrible, but I can see it looking 'weird' as the child gets

> older. The child is verbal so he is talking a fair amount during

> the day. He does not seem to have any extreme hearing issues

> (e.g., does not cover his ears at loud noises).

>

> Is there any sort of sensory feedback that can be given to

> reduce this humming? Thanks.

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My 6yr old daughter is NT & she hums or sings all the

time at home. Then when I went to a conference at

school for kindergarten her teacher says she does it

at school too. She just reminded her that she needed

to be quiet at certain times.

E.

Colorado

--- <deester_s@...> wrote:

> Humming is a verbal stimm. I remember running to

> the Neurologist

> with a noise my daughter use to make at a very young

> age droped it

> then picked it up again a year or so later. I

> thought she was

> regressing. This is what the neurologist told me.

>

> You may not be able to control the humming but maybe

> have him do it

> in a lower volume.

>

>

>

" Insanity runs in my family. It practically gallops. "

Cary Grant

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Biggest pet peeve..... When a person says " your child isn't as bad as

(fill in the blank) "

ARGH!

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Donna,

That was perfectly said..

Stacey

From: Donna <DOCHS@...>

Date: Tue Jul 11 01:05:26 CDT 2006

autism

Subject: Re: Can HUMMING be stopped or helped?

Absolutely, and I understand the happy and the sad so well. I have always said

that my autistic boy is " my greatest joy and my greatest sorrow. " It is very

mentally draining to carry two such very strong and conflicting feelings in your

heart for so long. I think what saddens me most is his vulnerability, what

brings me the most joy is his sweet innocence. Donna Re: Can HUMMING be stopped or helped?

Jen,   I like your view on our children's unique attributes.  It reminded

me of a conversation I had with my mother regarding GW.  Even though we have

our issues with the kids behaviors & medical problems, they are still so very

unique in the way they view the world and what goes on around them. 

Sometimes, when I look at events or circumstances through GW eyes, I am happy

& saddened at what I see..... and, you can all disagree or agree, but the

petty things that I see in other children, are absent in our autistic

children.  GW doesn't go for the latest fad toy~ a balloon from the mall is

the only thing he will ask for!  He is color blind~ if they are children, they

are his friends...if they are adult, they are mommies friends.  He does not

have petty concerns about what he wears, or what the latest toy fad is.  He is

his own unique, happy self.  Does anyone else see this with their children? 

How unconditionally they view everything?    April

angelclmbr3 <angelclmbr3@...> wrote: Thank you I just

figure that our kids are special and if we

concentrated on what they do that is special and positive, they become

more acceptable to us and therefore society as well.

Cure my son? Heck no, I love him because God made him special

Controversial response? Yes... but hey I have two on the spectrum, it

adds spice to my otherwise boring existence

Blessings

Jen

pkuenstler@... wrote:

> Jen, that is a great attitude; thanks for sharing. Pat K

>

>

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I agree!!! Lois

Re: Can HUMMING be stopped or helped? Jen, I like your view on our children's unique attributes. It reminded me of a conversation I had with my mother regarding GW. Even though we have our issues with the kids behaviors & medical problems, they are still so very unique in the way they view the world and what goes on around them. Sometimes, when I look at events or circumstances through GW eyes, I am happy & saddened at what I see..... and, you can all disagree or agree, but the petty things that I see in other children, are absent in our autistic children. GW doesn't go for the latest fad toy~ a balloon from the mall is the only thing he will ask for! He is color blind~ if they are children, they are his friends...if they are adult, they are mommies friends. He does not have petty concerns about what he wears, or what the latest toy fad is. He is his own unique, happy self. Does anyone else see this with their children? How unconditionally they view everything? April angelclmbr3 <angelclmbr3comcast (DOT) net> wrote: Thank you I just figure that our kids are special and if we concentrated on what they do that is special and positive, they become more acceptable to us and therefore society as well. Cure my son? Heck no, I love him because God made him special :)Controversial response? Yes... but hey I have two on the spectrum, it adds spice to my otherwise boring existence :)BlessingsJenpkuenstleraol wrote:> Jen, that is a great attitude; thanks for sharing. Pat K>>

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Jen, I am a teacher of students with autism. I agree with

you in that kids with spectrum disorder are very unique and special. I love

every one of my students for who they are and use their individuality to teach

them skills that will help them deal with society and the skills required for

daily living. Most of the parents that I deal with love their kids, but most

often have a very soft spot and feel sorry for them. I am a believer that the

greatest influence and conditioning comes not from the school, but from home. I

understand that the curriculum in schools require teachers to follow strict

guidelines based on IEP’s, but if the parent is not educated in the area

of educating students with spectrum disorders the goals often become just the bureaucracy

of the education system and the students are not being taught the same things

at home as they are at school. Parents have the most experience with their

children and know them much better than teachers do. There needs to be a lot

more communication between parents and teachers. These kids have it hard enough

trying to make sense of their surroundings and when we place more conflicts

through teaching different things at home and school it can be overwhelming. In

the end, who are they going to believe? I would think the parents have the most

influence as it should be.

This is a sad thing to say, but true. Thinking of the future

many of these kids will grow up to become adults, may go to workshops, some may

live in group homes where they are required to practice life skills. Parents

will not always be there, that is for sure. We know that the world can be a

dangerous place and especially for kids so innocent. I also know that some

teachers are not the easiest people to deal with, but the kids come first. Get

involved with the curriculum and develop something that carries from home to

school and back and forth. Start with the basics of life and build upon them and

use one experience to reinforce another. Use lots of pictures and examples if

possible. Do not keep these kids guessing what is next. Let them know in

advance what is next.

I have had so many successes that I could never list them

all. One thing for sure is that each student is different, each student has

potential, and each student learns differently. Sounds just like any student in

the world, right! It is the same, but Students with autism must work much

harder to associate all of the senses to make a picture in their minds. Once

understood, it is on to the next.

M. Ed Autism

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Bill, I am not "de-valuing" the way GW sees the world. I rather like it AprilBill Nason <nasonbill@...> wrote: April,Yes, kids on the spectrum can be very refreshing. Cognitively, they tend to see only what is there, and do not read between the lines, try to second quess others, or try to read the thoughts, feelings, and perspective of others. Consequently, kids on the spectrum are not as worried about fades, play head games, or

obsess about what others are thinking or feeling about them. So, they are not as jealous, use less sarcasm, are not constantly worrying about how others see or think of them. They are very naive and only see what is visable. It is sad that they often do not understand the context (the invisible) of what is going on, and often misread situations, but it is nice that they are up front and very honest in how they perceive the world. They open up with you and tell it like it is. There is no game playing. I do not have any children on the spectrum, but I am psychologist who specializes in autism. However, I coach a soccer program and basketball program for over 80 children on the spectrum. Those children are the best and the most fun to coach. Never a dull moment, they tell it like it is, and they show pure emotion (good or bad..lol). So, they have a very interesting view of the world, and often a much more purer

view than the neurotypical person. So, yes we have to be the map to help them navigate this world, but don't disvalue the pure way that they see the world. We could learn alot from them.Bill > > > Jen, that is a great attitude; thanks for sharing. Pat K> >> >>

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, You are right that we parents are going to be the largest influence in our child's life.... we can only hope that most, if not all parents of Autistic Children, or any special needds child, are willing to put in the extra effort to help their children grow. I like what you said about working with the teachers. My son adores his teacher; and she and I communicate both during and after the school year. She is great and so patient with these kids! I am constantly picking her brain to help out with any issues we may have at home so that if they are present at school~ we do the same things. April Dykes <n5gtd@...> wrote: Jen, I am a teacher of students with autism. I agree with you in that kids with spectrum disorder are very unique and special. I love every one of my students for who they are and use their individuality to teach them skills that will help them deal with society and the skills required for daily living. Most of the parents that I deal with love their kids, but most often have a very soft spot and feel sorry for them. I am a believer that the greatest influence and conditioning comes not from the school, but from home. I understand that the curriculum in schools require teachers to follow strict guidelines based on IEP’s, but if the parent

is not educated in the area of educating students with spectrum disorders the goals often become just the bureaucracy of the education system and the students are not being taught the same things at home as they are at school. Parents have the most experience with their children and know them much better than teachers do. There needs to be a lot more communication between parents and teachers. These kids have it hard enough trying to make sense of their surroundings and when we place more conflicts through teaching different things at home and school it can be overwhelming. In the end, who are they going to believe? I would think the parents have the most influence as it should be. This is a sad thing to say, but true. Thinking

of the future many of these kids will grow up to become adults, may go to workshops, some may live in group homes where they are required to practice life skills. Parents will not always be there, that is for sure. We know that the world can be a dangerous place and especially for kids so innocent. I also know that some teachers are not the easiest people to deal with, but the kids come first. Get involved with the curriculum and develop something that carries from home to school and back and forth. Start with the basics of life and build upon them and use one experience to reinforce another. Use lots of pictures and examples if possible. Do not keep these kids guessing what is next. Let them know in advance what is next. I have

had so many successes that I could never list them all. One thing for sure is that each student is different, each student has potential, and each student learns differently. Sounds just like any student in the world, right! It is the same, but Students with autism must work much harder to associate all of the senses to make a picture in their minds. Once understood, it is on to the next. M. Ed Autism

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April,

Thank you for the response and it is great that you are

working with the teacher.. Watch for changes and encourage the good ones.

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I agree so much with your email. I have worked very hard with my son to

learn the very practical things in life (which we take for granted) Like

how to check out at the grocery store, how to place an order at a

restaurant, I have him buy things and give and receive change, I have

him check in for his doc aptments, If he has a problem with his food at

a restaurant I have him explain it to the staff. I am trying very hard

for him to learn to deal with the world, He is 10 and pretty good with

thigns like this, its just the unplanned things that get him Like a kid

at the park sticking their tongue out at him or a kid at the library

cutting in line at the book check out. kWe deal with these things when

they arise but I wont always be there and it worries me. I wish it were

easier for him to generalize but thats just who he is and I love him

wholly and unconditionally.

Allie

10 year old son dx with Aspergers, anxiety, nvld

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Bill

I was wondering how you deal with children who have a difficult time

losing in a competition or with children who become aggressive. I would

love for my son to be involved in more activities but he frustrates so

easily (he will yell, throw things around and push people away that try

to help him) Also if he is playing a game (he loves soccer and T Ball)

and someone cheats God help that kid because he wants it settled NOW and

if the teacher doesnt settle it he feels that he needs to, because he

cant let people get a way with cheating and being unfair. So you can see

how " pleasant " competive activites can be for him.

I wonder appreciate any suggestions from anyone, he wants to participate

and really wants to be part of a group. he just doesnt know how or how

to deal with those feelings.

Allie

10 yr old son with Aspergers, anxiety, aggression, nvld

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I know that Karac does that too. He is frequently saying some line from one of the movies that he has watched. I would love to be able to look inside of his head, but he is not as verbal as your son. Pat K

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I know that Karac does that too. He is frequently saying some line from one of the movies that he has watched. I would love to be able to look inside of his head, but he is not as verbal as your son. Pat K