Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 You don't know how many times I have felt like I messed up. Sometimes Karac just seems to go through stages and emerge from them inspite of anything I do. Karac has periods of wonderful compliance and then it will seem like everything went to hell. This week karac has been wonderful; the three weeks prior it looked like everything was lost. He was tearing up everything. I don't know why he went through the bad spell or why he stopped. This has happened so many times that now I tell his mother that we will get through it because we always do. I have been working with Karac every day for 11 years. He is the love of my life. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 My son sometimes reverts back to tantruming/melt downs. I'm not sure if your son is verbal?? But, if so, I have realized that my son is so used to relying on the meltdowns as a way to communicate his frustration. He sometimes forgets he can now talk and just tell me whats wrong. His language is still not that great, but he is able to use words to tell me what the issue is. When he is melting down, I remind him to "talk regular" he seems to snap out of it and remembers he can talk. If that doesn't work, I have him say "slow and steady cool and calm" over and over. He focuses his energy on saying that phrase and it calms him down. Kind of like counting to 10. If your son is not verbal, stick to your discipline routine. I know it is hard, but, its the only thing that works! Hang it there, we all have days like that! :)angelclmbr3 <angelclmbr3@...> wrote: My son's behaviorist basicly let me know today that I have fallen off of the proverbial behavior wagon.... that is ti say I have slipped up in my consistancy.... pretty much big time. It was so subdued, that even I didn't noticce that my son had slipped back into his ways. It started with minor noncomplience, and has blossomed into more meltdowns, and refusals to comply.Today afer my meeting with the BT, I decided that I needed to reimplement his strategies. Meltdown, Then mom gets son home and has him sit in time out, then meltdown, growling, him pushing, time out, then the next time he went all out, scratching biting and hitting.. all over again. It is the first time I have had to restrain him in a long time. I feel like I have totally messed up everyhting we have worked for in the last two years....I know when there is extinction of behaviors there are flares, but argh!any words of wisdom???? thanks Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 If there is a pattern with Karac, I think it may be after a plateau and he wants to quit; so he rebels and has melt downs. As someone else wrote it probably is an effort to get me to quit. Generally if I press on we work through it and he becomes compliant again. I don't know if this is making sense, but I'm glad you asked; it makes me analize. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 If there is a pattern with Karac, I think it may be after a plateau and he wants to quit; so he rebels and has melt downs. As someone else wrote it probably is an effort to get me to quit. Generally if I press on we work through it and he becomes compliant again. I don't know if this is making sense, but I'm glad you asked; it makes me analize. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 I've, personally, found no particular reason or event (except for one - but that doesn't account for the gazzilion other meltdowns) that causes my (4) to go into meltdown. As hard as I search, outside of this one thing, I can't find a common denominator. That one piece (of the proverbial autistic) puzzle that I did discover was " no. " " No " can either be expressed literally, i.e., " No " or figuratively, " Sweetie, that's not a boat, it's a car. " Either way, there is always a meltdown to follow. Other than that, I can't figure it out. I only post this because I'm very interested in what responses might follow to your post. Thanks for your enquiry and sorry I couldn't contribute toward a possible solution. Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Must be frustrating to not be able to pin point what sets off. Sometimes there is no reason with my son other than just frustration because he can't get his message across. But, most of the time, when my son melts down, its at a time when he didn't eat very much, he needs a nap or starting to get sick or just needs some attention. But, children are all so different. What works for one may not work for another. Kat <beedo4me@...> wrote: I've, personally, found no particular reason or event (except for one - but that doesn't account for the gazzilion other meltdowns) that causes my (4) to go into meltdown. As hard as I search, outside of this one thing, I can't find a common denominator.That one piece (of the proverbial autistic) puzzle that I did discover was "no." "No" can either be expressed literally, i.e., "No" or figuratively, "Sweetie, that's not a boat, it's a car." Either way, there is always a meltdown to follow.Other than that, I can't figure it out.I only post this because I'm very interested in what responses might follow to your post. Thanks for your enquiry and sorry I couldn't contribute toward a possible solution.Kat Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Must be frustrating to not be able to pin point what sets off. Sometimes there is no reason with my son other than just frustration because he can't get his message across. But, most of the time, when my son melts down, its at a time when he didn't eat very much, he needs a nap or starting to get sick or just needs some attention. But, children are all so different. What works for one may not work for another. Kat <beedo4me@...> wrote: I've, personally, found no particular reason or event (except for one - but that doesn't account for the gazzilion other meltdowns) that causes my (4) to go into meltdown. As hard as I search, outside of this one thing, I can't find a common denominator.That one piece (of the proverbial autistic) puzzle that I did discover was "no." "No" can either be expressed literally, i.e., "No" or figuratively, "Sweetie, that's not a boat, it's a car." Either way, there is always a meltdown to follow.Other than that, I can't figure it out.I only post this because I'm very interested in what responses might follow to your post. Thanks for your enquiry and sorry I couldn't contribute toward a possible solution.Kat Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Some people may not agree, but our son is fully capable of “testing the waters” occasionally just to see how much he can get away with or how far he can push me. Tonya Re: Has anyone else? My son sometimes reverts back to tantruming/melt downs. I'm not sure if your son is verbal?? But, if so, I have realized that my son is so used to relying on the meltdowns as a way to communicate his frustration. He sometimes forgets he can now talk and just tell me whats wrong. His language is still not that great, but he is able to use words to tell me what the issue is. When he is melting down, I remind him to " talk regular " he seems to snap out of it and remembers he can talk. If that doesn't work, I have him say " slow and steady cool and calm " over and over. He focuses his energy on saying that phrase and it calms him down. Kind of like counting to 10. If your son is not verbal, stick to your discipline routine. I know it is hard, but, its the only thing that works! Hang it there, we all have days like that! angelclmbr3 <angelclmbr3@...> wrote: My son's behaviorist basicly let me know today that I have fallen off of the proverbial behavior wagon.... that is ti say I have slipped up in my consistancy.... pretty much big time. It was so subdued, that even I didn't noticce that my son had slipped back into his ways. It started with minor noncomplience, and has blossomed into more meltdowns, and refusals to comply. Today afer my meeting with the BT, I decided that I needed to reimplement his strategies. Meltdown, Then mom gets son home and has him sit in time out, then meltdown, growling, him pushing, time out, then the next time he went all out, scratching biting and hitting.. all over again. It is the first time I have had to restrain him in a long time. I feel like I have totally messed up everyhting we have worked for in the last two years.... I know when there is extinction of behaviors there are flares, but argh! any words of wisdom???? thanks Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 April, Karac is affected by the weather too. When he can't expend his energy by playing outside or riding his bike, he gets agitated, and I have the same problem of finding things for him to do. During the week I can take him to the rec. and he can swim in their indoor pool or play with a basketball in the gym, but on Saturdays and Sundays is when it is the most difficult. Sometimes I can take him to Chuck E Cheese for an hour, but that still leaves about 7 more hours. Sometimes I even count the hours; do you ever do that? LOL, Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 April, Karac is affected by the weather too. When he can't expend his energy by playing outside or riding his bike, he gets agitated, and I have the same problem of finding things for him to do. During the week I can take him to the rec. and he can swim in their indoor pool or play with a basketball in the gym, but on Saturdays and Sundays is when it is the most difficult. Sometimes I can take him to Chuck E Cheese for an hour, but that still leaves about 7 more hours. Sometimes I even count the hours; do you ever do that? LOL, Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Hello - I am Peggy living in NJ. My son is a fraternal twin. He just turned 12. Last 2 years - right on November 1st - he falls out. He has terrible outbursts - they are aggressive and he seeks me out and slaps me in the face and pulls my hair. They started 2 years ago when he was 10. they subside and cease between April 30th and June 1st. He is a wonderful, sweet and highly intelligent boy. He has severe expressive language retrieval - uses echolalia, delayed echolalia, mitigated echolaia - to bridge and communicate. He speaks - inside his head mostly. He has OCD-type syndrome. He has SUPERB receptive communication skills and can read, write - functions at better than grade level. Unfortunately because of his explosive outbursts at school he is now in a more "structured" classroom with lower functioning children. Anyone have any experience with these seasonal fluctuations? Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Hello - I am Peggy living in NJ. My son is a fraternal twin. He just turned 12. Last 2 years - right on November 1st - he falls out. He has terrible outbursts - they are aggressive and he seeks me out and slaps me in the face and pulls my hair. They started 2 years ago when he was 10. they subside and cease between April 30th and June 1st. He is a wonderful, sweet and highly intelligent boy. He has severe expressive language retrieval - uses echolalia, delayed echolalia, mitigated echolaia - to bridge and communicate. He speaks - inside his head mostly. He has OCD-type syndrome. He has SUPERB receptive communication skills and can read, write - functions at better than grade level. Unfortunately because of his explosive outbursts at school he is now in a more "structured" classroom with lower functioning children. Anyone have any experience with these seasonal fluctuations? Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 I think the weather effects my K if it is stormy, or as he says (fast rain), if we cannot do something that he was looking forward to (understandable), if he doesn't get what he wats, or as of late he is tired or feeling ill, which I usually don't know until after the meltdown. Curious is the impulsive things they do, from no apparent cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 I think the weather effects my K if it is stormy, or as he says (fast rain), if we cannot do something that he was looking forward to (understandable), if he doesn't get what he wats, or as of late he is tired or feeling ill, which I usually don't know until after the meltdown. Curious is the impulsive things they do, from no apparent cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Hi Peggy, I'm Patty from Minnesota. My 12 yr. old son is the same way. but he started about a year and a half ago. He too seeks ME out. But He only pinches me. but it really hurts. he gets me about 10 times in about 5 sec. I have been wondering if maybe puberty has some to do with it..What do you do when he lashes out at you? I have tried hands down, hands to etc. nothin works..i also wish he would pick someone else to lash out on. But its me and only me.. Patty > > Hello - > I am Peggy living in NJ. My son is a fraternal twin. He just turned > 12. Last 2 years - right on November 1st - he falls out. He has terrible > outbursts - they are aggressive and he seeks me out and slaps me in the face > and pulls my hair. They started 2 years ago when he was 10. they subside and > cease between April 30th and June 1st. > > He is a wonderful, sweet and highly intelligent boy. He has severe > expressive language retrieval - uses echolalia, delayed echolalia, mitigated echolaia > - to bridge and communicate. He speaks - inside his head mostly. He has > OCD-type syndrome. He has SUPERB receptive communication skills and can read, > write - functions at better than grade level. Unfortunately because of his > explosive outbursts at school he is now in a more " structured " classroom with > lower functioning children. > > Anyone have any experience with these seasonal fluctuations? > > Peggy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 > > > > Hello - > > I am Peggy living in NJ. My son is a fraternal twin. He > just turned > > 12. Last 2 years - right on November 1st - he falls out. He has > terrible > > outbursts - they are aggressive and he seeks me out and slaps me > in the face > > and pulls my hair. They started 2 years ago when he was 10. > they subside and > > cease between April 30th and June 1st. > > > > He is a wonderful, sweet and highly intelligent boy. He has > severe > > expressive language retrieval - uses echolalia, delayed echolalia, > mitigated echolaia > > - to bridge and communicate. He speaks - inside his head > mostly. He has > > OCD-type syndrome. He has SUPERB receptive communication skills > and can read, > > write - functions at better than grade level. Unfortunately > because of his > > explosive outbursts at school he is now in a more " structured " > classroom with > > lower functioning children. > > > > Anyone have any experience with these seasonal fluctuations? > > > > Peggy > > > Our son pinches me and his Mom. One of the behavior analyists said to not react when he does this if of course the pinching is done to get attention or a reaction from us. It is hard not to react but I don't and get pinched alot less than Mom does. It may also help to wear a jacket or long sleeve shirt as we were told to do. At school, they just put socks on his hands when the pinching gets bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Pat, you are preaching to the choir here! Did you get those Tae Bo dvd's? Aprilpkuenstler@... wrote: April, Karac is affected by the weather too. When he can't expend his energy by playing outside or riding his bike, he gets agitated, and I have the same problem of finding things for him to do. During the week I can take him to the rec. and he can swim in their indoor pool or play with a basketball in the gym, but on Saturdays and Sundays is when it is the most difficult. Sometimes I can take him to Chuck E Cheese for an hour, but that still leaves about 7 more hours. Sometimes I even count the hours; do you ever do that? LOL, Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Pat, you are preaching to the choir here! Did you get those Tae Bo dvd's? Aprilpkuenstler@... wrote: April, Karac is affected by the weather too. When he can't expend his energy by playing outside or riding his bike, he gets agitated, and I have the same problem of finding things for him to do. During the week I can take him to the rec. and he can swim in their indoor pool or play with a basketball in the gym, but on Saturdays and Sundays is when it is the most difficult. Sometimes I can take him to Chuck E Cheese for an hour, but that still leaves about 7 more hours. Sometimes I even count the hours; do you ever do that? LOL, Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 > > > > Hello - > > I am Peggy living in NJ. My son is a fraternal twin. He > just turned > > 12. Last 2 years - right on November 1st - he falls out. He has > terrible > > outbursts - they are aggressive and he seeks me out and slaps me > in the face > > and pulls my hair. They started 2 years ago when he was 10. > they subside and > > cease between April 30th and June 1st. > > > > He is a wonderful, sweet and highly intelligent boy. He has > severe > > expressive language retrieval - uses echolalia, delayed echolalia, > mitigated echolaia > > - to bridge and communicate. He speaks - inside his head > mostly. He has > > OCD-type syndrome. He has SUPERB receptive communication skills > and can read, > > write - functions at better than grade level. Unfortunately > because of his > > explosive outbursts at school he is now in a more " structured " > classroom with > > lower functioning children. > > > > Anyone have any experience with these seasonal fluctuations? > > > > Peggy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 > > > > Hello - > > I am Peggy living in NJ. My son is a fraternal twin. He > just turned > > 12. Last 2 years - right on November 1st - he falls out. He has > terrible > > outbursts - they are aggressive and he seeks me out and slaps me > in the face > > and pulls my hair. They started 2 years ago when he was 10. > they subside and > > cease between April 30th and June 1st. > > > > He is a wonderful, sweet and highly intelligent boy. He has > severe > > expressive language retrieval - uses echolalia, delayed echolalia, > mitigated echolaia > > - to bridge and communicate. He speaks - inside his head > mostly. He has > > OCD-type syndrome. He has SUPERB receptive communication skills > and can read, > > write - functions at better than grade level. Unfortunately > because of his > > explosive outbursts at school he is now in a more " structured " > classroom with > > lower functioning children. > > > > Anyone have any experience with these seasonal fluctuations? > > > > Peggy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 > Pat K, Yes that is very funny.. use to wear a barney costume for halloween from the age 3 to 7..{he loved and still loves barney} I was thinking about having someone make me one just like it to fit me..at least the upper part.. Just to see if that would stop him from pinching my arms.. If someone steps or throws his plush barney, he freaks out as if they were really hurting it.. Patty > Patty, Karac is 13 and when I see him getting agitated I have an old green > wool coat and some mittens that look like boxing gloves. The first time I put > these on and he tried to bite me he just got a mouthful of fuzz. Now when he > sees me with these on he doesn't even try to pinch or bite me. I think he has > gotten conditioned to calming himself down when he sees the green coat. Isn't > that funny? Pat K > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 > Pat K, Yes that is very funny.. use to wear a barney costume for halloween from the age 3 to 7..{he loved and still loves barney} I was thinking about having someone make me one just like it to fit me..at least the upper part.. Just to see if that would stop him from pinching my arms.. If someone steps or throws his plush barney, he freaks out as if they were really hurting it.. Patty > Patty, Karac is 13 and when I see him getting agitated I have an old green > wool coat and some mittens that look like boxing gloves. The first time I put > these on and he tried to bite me he just got a mouthful of fuzz. Now when he > sees me with these on he doesn't even try to pinch or bite me. I think he has > gotten conditioned to calming himself down when he sees the green coat. Isn't > that funny? Pat K > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.