Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Peggy and all, My JJ was/is like that too. I think he carries SAD Seasonal depression disorder. I got (thu the ARC) a light (Just got it) that I am giving to the school to use to "Help" J when he is in class hopeing that it will put him in a better mood. I won't know if it helps until he go's back to school but I will keep everyone updated. Lois Re: Has anyone else? Hello - I am Peggy living in NJ. My son is a fraternal twin. He just turned 12. Last 2 years - right on November 1st - he falls out. He has terrible outbursts - they are aggressive and he seeks me out and slaps me in the face and pulls my hair. They started 2 years ago when he was 10. they subside and cease between April 30th and June 1st. He is a wonderful, sweet and highly intelligent boy. He has severe expressive language retrieval - uses echolalia, delayed echolalia, mitigated echolaia - to bridge and communicate. He speaks - inside his head mostly. He has OCD-type syndrome. He has SUPERB receptive communication skills and can read, write - functions at better than grade level. Unfortunately because of his explosive outbursts at school he is now in a more "structured" classroom with lower functioning children. Anyone have any experience with these seasonal fluctuations? Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Peggy and all, My JJ was/is like that too. I think he carries SAD Seasonal depression disorder. I got (thu the ARC) a light (Just got it) that I am giving to the school to use to "Help" J when he is in class hopeing that it will put him in a better mood. I won't know if it helps until he go's back to school but I will keep everyone updated. Lois Re: Has anyone else? Hello - I am Peggy living in NJ. My son is a fraternal twin. He just turned 12. Last 2 years - right on November 1st - he falls out. He has terrible outbursts - they are aggressive and he seeks me out and slaps me in the face and pulls my hair. They started 2 years ago when he was 10. they subside and cease between April 30th and June 1st. He is a wonderful, sweet and highly intelligent boy. He has severe expressive language retrieval - uses echolalia, delayed echolalia, mitigated echolaia - to bridge and communicate. He speaks - inside his head mostly. He has OCD-type syndrome. He has SUPERB receptive communication skills and can read, write - functions at better than grade level. Unfortunately because of his explosive outbursts at school he is now in a more "structured" classroom with lower functioning children. Anyone have any experience with these seasonal fluctuations? Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Are you saying that joshua has this aggressive behavior from November until April? Do you give him any medication? Karac will have some seasonal periods of aggression, but I don't think they have ever lasted more than 3 weeks. Karac is 13. I will usually give him a half of Clonidine or have him relax in the tub. That usually always calms him down. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Patty, Karac is 13 and when I see him getting agitated I have an old green wool coat and some mittens that look like boxing gloves. The first time I put these on and he tried to bite me he just got a mouthful of fuzz. Now when he sees me with these on he doesn't even try to pinch or bite me. I think he has gotten conditioned to calming himself down when he sees the green coat. Isn't that funny? Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Hi Patty, My son (9yrs)has started this whole behavioral thing within the past year.Pinching till the point of black/blue bruises on me and his 1:1 at school.Biting,scratching.Initially is was focused on me,as you are,this is just a thought but perhaps it's that we are the closest(relationship) to them and that's why they " seek us out " my son still does that.Obviously for me is the fact that I'm a single parent but I just wondered if you are particularly close and spend a lot of time together. Stacey From: patty <schnippy_72@...> Date: 2006/07/24 Mon PM 10:04:46 CDT autism Subject: Re: Has anyone else? Hi Peggy, I'm Patty from Minnesota. My 12 yr. old son is the same way. but he started about a year and a half ago. He too seeks ME out. But He only pinches me. but it really hurts. he gets me about 10 times in about 5 sec. I have been wondering if maybe puberty has some to do with it..What do you do when he lashes out at you? I have tried hands down, hands to etc. nothin works..i also wish he would pick someone else to lash out on. But its me and only me.. Patty > > Hello - > I am Peggy living in NJ. My son is a fraternal twin. He just turned > 12. Last 2 years - right on November 1st - he falls out. He has terrible > outbursts - they are aggressive and he seeks me out and slaps me in the face > and pulls my hair. They started 2 years ago when he was 10. they subside and > cease between April 30th and June 1st. > > He is a wonderful, sweet and highly intelligent boy. He has severe > expressive language retrieval - uses echolalia, delayed echolalia, mitigated echolaia > - to bridge and communicate. He speaks - inside his head mostly. He has > OCD-type syndrome. He has SUPERB receptive communication skills and can read, > write - functions at better than grade level. Unfortunately because of his > explosive outbursts at school he is now in a more " structured " classroom with > lower functioning children. > > Anyone have any experience with these seasonal fluctuations? > > Peggy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 A Barney costume sounds like fun. All you would need is the top; why not try it? It certainly is cuter than my old green coat. My Karac would think that was hilarious. It probably would have a shock appeal. That would certainly redefine the situation. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Oh my gosh! Patty yes your son does love you! I think when they do the aggressive things to us they simply just can't help it,it's not that they have the " intent " to harm us they just don't have the mechanism yet to control such a high emotion.He's acknowledging that he's done something to you that he feels bad about and wants you to know this,and that is his way of showing his love and compassion. My son does not call me mama yet but he knows who I am and that I am mama.He sings " i love you " (from barney song).Our kids do have the capacity to love and have emotions ,I think its just that because they're so young it's hard for them to sort through their emotions and express them appropriately all the time. Stacey From: patty <schnippy_72@...> Date: 2006/07/29 Sat AM 12:23:06 CDT autism Subject: Re: Has anyone else? > > > > Hello - > > I am Peggy living in NJ. My son is a fraternal twin. He > just turned > > 12. Last 2 years - right on November 1st - he falls out. He has > terrible > > outbursts - they are aggressive and he seeks me out and slaps me > in the face > > and pulls my hair. They started 2 years ago when he was 10. > they subside and > > cease between April 30th and June 1st. > > > > He is a wonderful, sweet and highly intelligent boy. He has > severe > > expressive language retrieval - uses echolalia, delayed echolalia, > mitigated echolaia > > - to bridge and communicate. He speaks - inside his head > mostly. He has > > OCD-type syndrome. He has SUPERB receptive communication skills > and can read, > > write - functions at better than grade level. Unfortunately > because of his > > explosive outbursts at school he is now in a more " structured " > classroom with > > lower functioning children. > > > > Anyone have any experience with these seasonal fluctuations? > > > > Peggy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 I agree, Stacey, these kids have a great capacity to love. Karac started out by expressing it with the Barney song, but now that he is 13 he will walk up to me and put his arm around my neck and draw my face next to his and kiss me and say, "I love you so much." He does it to his mother, sister, and grandfather. It has only been this last year that he has done that. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 I agree, Stacey, these kids have a great capacity to love. Karac started out by expressing it with the Barney song, but now that he is 13 he will walk up to me and put his arm around my neck and draw my face next to his and kiss me and say, "I love you so much." He does it to his mother, sister, and grandfather. It has only been this last year that he has done that. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 You and your son are so blessed to have Pa Pa in your lives. Karac loves his grandfather so much. Unfortunately Karac's father, my son, only tolerates him. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 You and your son are so blessed to have Pa Pa in your lives. Karac loves his grandfather so much. Unfortunately Karac's father, my son, only tolerates him. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Hey Pat, Oh how sweet it is to be loved!! I am a single mom and my son's father is not in the picture but what's great is that my parents are 5min away and in the past few years my son has gotten very attatched to his PaPa,matter of fact thats the only name he will say at this time (he's not said mama yet)My dad is not a real " touchy-feely " person but my son is so my dad has really adapted to this " expression " of love and affection between he and his grandson and it's so beautiful to watch. He interacts with everyone so differently but it's all love. I did a presentation this past fall at the ICDL (Greenspan conference)they have a segment called The Parents Panel,and one of the things I talked about was how my son " know's love and what love is and how to express it " . Our children are so loving,forgiving and accepting of us and have no malice in their hearts or minds...what a beautiful thing that is! Stacey From: pkuenstler@... Date: 2006/07/30 Sun PM 02:09:20 CDT autism Subject: Re: Re: Has anyone else? I agree, Stacey, these kids have a great capacity to love. Karac started out by expressing it with the Barney song, but now that he is 13 he will walk up to me and put his arm around my neck and draw my face next to his and kiss me and say, " I love you so much. " He does it to his mother, sister, and grandfather. It has only been this last year that he has done that. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Hey Pat, Oh how sweet it is to be loved!! I am a single mom and my son's father is not in the picture but what's great is that my parents are 5min away and in the past few years my son has gotten very attatched to his PaPa,matter of fact thats the only name he will say at this time (he's not said mama yet)My dad is not a real " touchy-feely " person but my son is so my dad has really adapted to this " expression " of love and affection between he and his grandson and it's so beautiful to watch. He interacts with everyone so differently but it's all love. I did a presentation this past fall at the ICDL (Greenspan conference)they have a segment called The Parents Panel,and one of the things I talked about was how my son " know's love and what love is and how to express it " . Our children are so loving,forgiving and accepting of us and have no malice in their hearts or minds...what a beautiful thing that is! Stacey From: pkuenstler@... Date: 2006/07/30 Sun PM 02:09:20 CDT autism Subject: Re: Re: Has anyone else? I agree, Stacey, these kids have a great capacity to love. Karac started out by expressing it with the Barney song, but now that he is 13 he will walk up to me and put his arm around my neck and draw my face next to his and kiss me and say, " I love you so much. " He does it to his mother, sister, and grandfather. It has only been this last year that he has done that. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Pat, Yes I think so too! I love my dad so much and I love the way he and my son interact with each other...especially since his own father is not around.I guess the good thing is that at least he has a male presence in his life and a great relationship with him.Maybe one day a very unique man will come into our lives and be a great father to him ! Stacey From: pkuenstler@... Date: 2006/07/31 Mon PM 12:34:46 CDT autism Subject: Re: Re: Has anyone else? You and your son are so blessed to have Pa Pa in your lives. Karac loves his grandfather so much. Unfortunately Karac's father, my son, only tolerates him. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Pat, Yes I think so too! I love my dad so much and I love the way he and my son interact with each other...especially since his own father is not around.I guess the good thing is that at least he has a male presence in his life and a great relationship with him.Maybe one day a very unique man will come into our lives and be a great father to him ! Stacey From: pkuenstler@... Date: 2006/07/31 Mon PM 12:34:46 CDT autism Subject: Re: Re: Has anyone else? You and your son are so blessed to have Pa Pa in your lives. Karac loves his grandfather so much. Unfortunately Karac's father, my son, only tolerates him. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 I Wouldn't be surprised Stacey if the right husband and father comes along for the both of you some day. There is a wonderful man at my church whose wife left him because of their autistic son. The father has reared the boy by himself all these years. The son is now 21 and the father has married the most beautiful loving special ed. teacher who adores his son and is great with him. It gives me such joy to see the three of them sitting together in church. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 I Wouldn't be surprised Stacey if the right husband and father comes along for the both of you some day. There is a wonderful man at my church whose wife left him because of their autistic son. The father has reared the boy by himself all these years. The son is now 21 and the father has married the most beautiful loving special ed. teacher who adores his son and is great with him. It gives me such joy to see the three of them sitting together in church. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Pat, I certainly hope that,that day comes! I think that it would have to be someone who either works with special needs kids or just has a real love for all children.Wow,I can't imagine leaving my son because I could not deal with his disability.It's good to hear that this father did not falter after his wife left..and glad that he eventually found his soulmate! Stacey From: pkuenstler@... Date: 2006/08/01 Tue PM 01:53:07 CDT autism Subject: Re: Re: Has anyone else? I Wouldn't be surprised Stacey if the right husband and father comes along for the both of you some day. There is a wonderful man at my church whose wife left him because of their autistic son. The father has reared the boy by himself all these years. The son is now 21 and the father has married the most beautiful loving special ed. teacher who adores his son and is great with him. It gives me such joy to see the three of them sitting together in church. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Pat, I certainly hope that,that day comes! I think that it would have to be someone who either works with special needs kids or just has a real love for all children.Wow,I can't imagine leaving my son because I could not deal with his disability.It's good to hear that this father did not falter after his wife left..and glad that he eventually found his soulmate! Stacey From: pkuenstler@... Date: 2006/08/01 Tue PM 01:53:07 CDT autism Subject: Re: Re: Has anyone else? I Wouldn't be surprised Stacey if the right husband and father comes along for the both of you some day. There is a wonderful man at my church whose wife left him because of their autistic son. The father has reared the boy by himself all these years. The son is now 21 and the father has married the most beautiful loving special ed. teacher who adores his son and is great with him. It gives me such joy to see the three of them sitting together in church. Pat K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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