Re: Homozon, what it is made for !/ Disease Is:

[Guest guest]

Hi Laurie,

Dr. Blass's explanation is exactly what I read and it doesn't really

make sense to me.

BTW, I made a mistake in my earlier post. Milk of magnesium is not

the same as epsom salts. Milk of Mag is Mg(OH)2 while epsom salts is

magnesium sulfate. Anyway, I take plenty of h2o2 orally and it does

not oxidize and liquify junk in my intestines like the claims made

for homozon. Although h202 probably gets absorbed before reaching the

intestines.

Any form of non-absorbable magnesium acts like a laxative. The

magnesium acts to pull a saline solution into the intestines from the

blood. This excessive fluid then provides a flushing or laxative

action within the intestines. That is why I am hypothesizing that

homozon is just acting like a laxative. Like homozon, even milk of

magnesia doesn't work good as a laxitive after you use it too much.

Dr. Blass said:

" oxidation means changing solid waste matters into water and gas "

I can see where this would make excess water, but one job of the

intestines is to absorb excess water. If the water is part of a

saline solution, that has enough salts in it, then it will not be

absorbed and cause diarea. This is what happens when milk of

magnesium is taken and what I think may be happening also with

homozon.

I'm sure the excess oxygen homozon releases is beneficial, but I

don't buy the " liquification of wastes " explanation.

Best Wishes!

Pete

> As long as the digestive tract is not cleared, there is

> little or no chance for the active oxygen to reach, passing

> through the capillaries and blood vessels, the other,

> especially the extreme, parts or organs of the body....

>

> Frequent stools ( from use of the products) will cease as

> soon as the digestive tract is free of waste matters, then

> nascent oxygen (even of large and frequent doses of the

> preparations) will be available for the purification of the

> blood and lymph vessels and organs; a heavier urination will

> take place and is necessary to carry off the waste products

> of the oxidation process. As long as only Magazon or Homozon

> is used, watery stools will be present till the the

> digestive tract is freed of waste matters. These stools are

> the logical result of oxidation (oxidation means changing

> solid waste matters into water and gas), it has nothing to

> do with diarrhea and does not weaken the body. "

> this is from page 154 of Oxygen Therapies.

> page 153=

> Disease is: Impaired health due to impure vital fluids, a

> clogged up, and in its normal function, hampered organism,

> giving food and lodging quarter for the various parasites,

> growths ect., an unhealthy body

> LACK OF OXYGEN and minerals in the vital fluids (lack of

> health maintaining oxidation) is the true cause of disease,

> and lately has been admitted by medical experts to be the

> cause of cancer. This we have stated since 1922 and we also

> maintained since then, that through oxidation and

> mineralization of the diseased body this dreaded disease and

> all others can be avoided and eliminated if laws of nature

> are honored and not misused.

>

> these are all quotes from Dr. Blass 1929 literature.

> Laurie

[Guest guest]

Hi Pete, When I use Homozon, before my 10 day colon cleanse

that I did recently, I use to get liquid bowel movements,

but since I'm more cleaned out sore to speak (lol) the

recommended amount does not do anything, I have normal 2 to

3 bm a day with or without it. so I don't agree with your

statement below.

Ps. Dr. Freibott, International Institute for Oxygen

Therapies could explain this better then I could, email me

privately and I can give you there phone #

http://www.oxytherapy.com/edmccabe/index.html

this is a link to ask Ed McCabe any questions about oxygen

or ozone

hope it helps clarify things.

Laurie

> Any form of non-absorbable magnesium acts like a laxative.

> The

> magnesium acts to pull a saline solution into the

> intestines from the

> blood. This excessive fluid then provides a flushing or

> laxative

> action within the intestines. That is why I am

> hypothesizing that

> homozon is just acting like a laxative. Like homozon, even

> milk of

> magnesia doesn't work good as a laxitive after you use it

> too much.

>

> Dr. Blass said:

> " oxidation means changing solid waste matters into water

> and gas "

> I can see where this would make excess water, but one job

> of the

> intestines is to absorb excess water. If the water is part

> of a

> saline solution, that has enough salts in it, then it will

> not be

> absorbed and cause diarea. This is what happens when milk

> of

> magnesium is taken and what I think may be happening also

> with

> homozon.

> I'm sure the excess oxygen homozon releases is beneficial,

> but I

> don't buy the " liquification of wastes " explanation.

>

> Best Wishes!

> Pete

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Laurie,

In my post I said, Like homozon, even milk of magnesia doesn't work

good as a laxative after you use it for a while.

And if it liquifies impacted waste, why doesn't it liquify normal

waste? Something just doesn't jive with Dr. Basses explanation.

Best Wishes

Pete

> Hi Pete, When I use Homozon, before my 10 day colon cleanse

> that I did recently, I use to get liquid bowel movements,

> but since I'm more cleaned out sore to speak (lol) the

> recommended amount does not do anything, I have normal 2 to

> 3 bm a day with or without it. so I don't agree with your

> statement below.

>

> Ps. Dr. Freibott, International Institute for Oxygen

> Therapies could explain this better then I could, email me

> privately and I can give you there phone #

>

> http://www.oxytherapy.com/edmccabe/index.html

> this is a link to ask Ed McCabe any questions about oxygen

> or ozone

> hope it helps clarify things.

> Laurie

>

> > Any form of non-absorbable magnesium acts like a laxative.

> > The

> > magnesium acts to pull a saline solution into the

> > intestines from the

> > blood. This excessive fluid then provides a flushing or

> > laxative

> > action within the intestines. That is why I am

> > hypothesizing that

> > homozon is just acting like a laxative. Like homozon, even

> > milk of

> > magnesia doesn't work good as a laxitive after you use it

> > too much.

> >

> > Dr. Blass said:

> > " oxidation means changing solid waste matters into water

> > and gas "

> > I can see where this would make excess water, but one job

> > of the

> > intestines is to absorb excess water. If the water is part

> > of a

> > saline solution, that has enough salts in it, then it will

> > not be

> > absorbed and cause diarea. This is what happens when milk

> > of

> > magnesium is taken and what I think may be happening also

> > with

> > homozon.

> > I'm sure the excess oxygen homozon releases is beneficial,

> > but I

> > don't buy the " liquification of wastes " explanation.

> >

> > Best Wishes!

> > Pete

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Isn't milk of magnesia to stop loose bowels?

Erma

At 09:20 PM 6/14/01 +0000, you wrote:

>Hi Laurie,

>In my post I said, Like homozon, even milk of magnesia doesn't work

>good as a laxative after you use it for a while.

>And if it liquifies impacted waste, why doesn't it liquify normal

>waste? Something just doesn't jive with Dr. Basses explanation.

>

>Best Wishes

>Pete

>

>

> > Hi Pete, When I use Homozon, before my 10 day colon cleanse

> > that I did recently, I use to get liquid bowel movements,

> > but since I'm more cleaned out sore to speak (lol) the

> > recommended amount does not do anything, I have normal 2 to

> > 3 bm a day with or without it. so I don't agree with your

> > statement below.

> >

> > Ps. Dr. Freibott, International Institute for Oxygen

> > Therapies could explain this better then I could, email me

> > privately and I can give you there phone #

> >

> > http://www.oxytherapy.com/edmccabe/index.html

> > this is a link to ask Ed McCabe any questions about oxygen

> > or ozone

> > hope it helps clarify things.

> > Laurie

> >

> > > Any form of non-absorbable magnesium acts like a laxative.

> > > The

> > > magnesium acts to pull a saline solution into the

> > > intestines from the

> > > blood. This excessive fluid then provides a flushing or

> > > laxative

> > > action within the intestines. That is why I am

> > > hypothesizing that

> > > homozon is just acting like a laxative. Like homozon, even

> > > milk of

> > > magnesia doesn't work good as a laxitive after you use it

> > > too much.

> > >

> > > Dr. Blass said:

> > > " oxidation means changing solid waste matters into water

> > > and gas "

> > > I can see where this would make excess water, but one job

> > > of the

> > > intestines is to absorb excess water. If the water is part

> > > of a

> > > saline solution, that has enough salts in it, then it will

> > > not be

> > > absorbed and cause diarea. This is what happens when milk

> > > of

> > > magnesium is taken and what I think may be happening also

> > > with

> > > homozon.

> > > I'm sure the excess oxygen homozon releases is beneficial,

> > > but I

> > > don't buy the " liquification of wastes " explanation.

> > >

> > > Best Wishes!

> > > Pete

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

These are the claims that are typically made for Homozon. But there is very

little research to back them up. It seems clear that magnesium, with or without

oxygen, is a strong laxative. I personally doubt that the following is true: " As

long as only Magazon or Homozon is used, watery stools will be present till the

digestive tract is freed of waste matters. " It seems to me that large doses of

magnesium, with or wothout the oxygen, will cause diarrhea no matter what, even

if the digestive tract is freed of waste matters.

" Laurie K. " wrote:

> As long as the digestive tract is not cleared, there is

> little or no chance for the active oxygen to reach, passing

> through the capillaries and blood vessels, the other,

> especially the extreme, parts or organs of the body....

>

> Frequent stools ( from use of the products) will cease as

> soon as the digestive tract is free of waste matters, then

> nascent oxygen (even of large and frequent doses of the

> preparations) will be available for the purification of the

> blood and lymph vessels and organs; a heavier urination will

> take place and is necessary to carry off the waste products

> of the oxidation process. As long as only Magazon or Homozon

> is used, watery stools will be present till the the

> digestive tract is freed of waste matters. These stools are

> the logical result of oxidation (oxidation means changing

> solid waste matters into water and gas), it has nothing to

> do with diarrhea and does not weaken the body. "

> this is from page 154 of Oxygen Therapies.

> page 153=

[Guest guest]

I have come to the same conclusion. I DO feel energized by the extra oxygen I

get from Homozon and use it for that purpose.

alreadyherenow@... wrote:

> I'm sure the excess oxygen homozon releases is beneficial, but I

> don't buy the " liquification of wastes " explanation.

[Guest guest]

Hallo Bjorn,

I understand that there is unclearity on the knowledge and effects of Homozon.

Concerning the laxative effects (personal experience):

Some weeks ago somebody posted a mail on the oxylist stating that using ozonated

water caused loosening of the bowel.

That means that the oxygen (single oxygen atom) does cause a laxative effects.

Ofcourse the question is:

Are the very strong laxative effects we see with Homozon when people start to

use the product caused solely by the oxygen or does also the magnesium

contribute to this effect. Honestly I don't know. But as concluded above, some

at least is caused by the oxygen, and the question is how much lose stool can

just one small teaspoon of magnesium cause. The way to test this would be to

digest an equal amount of pure magnesium powder (same amount you normally take

homozon) and see how strong the laxative effects are.

I've been using Homozon now for two years and in the beginning I have had the

same questions. Like I wrote I still don't know how much of the lose stool is

caused by the magnesium. I do know however that my lose stools are getting less.

I take now - since shortly - about three teaspoons a day, almost heaping

teaspoons. When I did this sporadically many months ago I was only releasing

fluid stools, now my stools are quite ok. Actually it is just nice I never have

obstipation, just always a quite easy stool and only sometimes a bit more lose.

But by taking this amount of Homozon another thing has started to arise: My live

is changing quite considerably.

I'm an amalgam damaged person. I've had many infectious diseases including TBC,

which requires to take antibiotics for one year three times a day. This probably

caused a medicine poisoning on my liver (also had Hep A before). Next to that I

have heart weakness (caused by the mercury from the amalgam) So before, when I

did not use Homozon, my daily schedule looked like a lazy holiday schedule, only

it was a forced holiday schedule: Getting up in the morning at 10.00 AM, work

for a few hours and then going to bed after the lunch cause my liver

could not digest well the proteins. Then again in the afternoon doing my work

for the different foundations I'm working for and being very tired in the

evening mostly go to bed at 23.00 hrs.

Next to this I had regulair strong ME attacks, that made me immobile sometimes

for just a few hours, but also for days on end.

(As a remedy I would go to a very good EV tester (VOL) that would mostly come up

with some food conservation chemicals that seem to blocked my neurotransmitters

and impulses in the nerves.)

Now, after using Homozon for two years, but only lately starting to take more

then one teaspoon a day. My life is miraculously changing since hightening the

does. The last few days I have been working with a friend on a painting job. So

that is quite physical. It's quite surprising to see that I'm making days of 18

hours with 6 hours of physical work and feel as good as ever. Yes I'm only

sleeping like 5 hours !! cause I've to take the bus at 06.00 to travel two hours

to the house that has to be painted. I feels a bit as if I'm the man of 6

million. (of course I'm not, have to be carefull not to exaggerate).

Still I feel some pain in my heart area so have to be very carefull, but it is

really trully amazing. No problems with digesting anyfood. Almost no ME attacks

- ofcourse I still take everycare to avoid chemicals in foods.

So, what I would like to say to you is that is does not really matter so much

with Homozon these detailed small side effects and how they are caused or -

considering our earlier discussion - how much the intestial flora is changed or

maybe slightly damaged - which I think is absolutely not the case and if so it

seems that it is reseaded with friendly bacteria immediately: I have no problem

digesting and absorbing any food what so ever.

The results of taking three teaspoons of Homozon are beyond my wildest dreams, I

wish the same to you and everybody else.

Regards

Doedens

Ps 1. And I'm not writing this cause I'm selling the stuff. I will send you a

free container if you want, but then you have to promiss me to work towards

taking 3 teaspoons a day ). As a beginner you will have to keep your

toiletpaper ready )

Ps 2.

By the way what are your health problems, if any?

Bjorn Roxendal wrote:

> These are the claims that are typically made for Homozon. But there is very

little research to back them up. It seems clear that magnesium, with or without

oxygen, is a strong laxative. I personally doubt that the following is true: " As

long as only Magazon or Homozon is used, watery stools will be present till the

digestive tract is freed of waste matters. " It seems to me that large doses of

magnesium, with or wothout the oxygen, will cause diarrhea no matter what, even

if the digestive tract is freed of waste matters.

>

> " Laurie K. " wrote:

>

> > As long as the digestive tract is not cleared, there is

> > little or no chance for the active oxygen to reach, passing

> > through the capillaries and blood vessels, the other,

> > especially the extreme, parts or organs of the body....

> >

> > Frequent stools ( from use of the products) will cease as

> > soon as the digestive tract is free of waste matters, then

> > nascent oxygen (even of large and frequent doses of the

> > preparations) will be available for the purification of the

> > blood and lymph vessels and organs; a heavier urination will

> > take place and is necessary to carry off the waste products

> > of the oxidation process. As long as only Magazon or Homozon

> > is used, watery stools will be present till the the

> > digestive tract is freed of waste matters. These stools are

> > the logical result of oxidation (oxidation means changing

> > solid waste matters into water and gas), it has nothing to

> > do with diarrhea and does not weaken the body. "

> > this is from page 154 of Oxygen Therapies.

> > page 153=

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[Guest guest]

, I appreciete your generous and detailed sharing of your Homozon/life

experiences. I may have come across as slightly Homozon negative when bringing

up possible side effects of Homozon, as well as doubting some of the claims

generally made about the product, but that is not actually where I am coming

from. I am a bit tired of the tendency towards " blind belief " and " mumbo jumbo "

that I see displayed in alternative circles and I think it is wise to be

somewhat inquisitive and critically(although not negatively) review claims that

are made

about products. I have used Homozon myself for about three months, and continue

to use it, in spite of the possible side effects. I have felt an increase in

energy (although not very strong) and that is something I really need! I have

been quite sick in CFS and am still recovering. Right now I am functioning at

about 70% capacity, up from around 10 or 20% a few years ago. Since I am

starting a very demanding full time job on Aug 1, I am under considerable

pressure and definitely need additional improvements! I own and use a QXCI

machine, which is

helping in my recovery. Since coming on this list I have started to do liver

cleanses (got about 100 stones out the first time and 200 the second). I have

been experimenting with H2O2 and am currently using it as an inhalation spray.

Cayenne/turmeric is another current favorite of mine.

Regarding you offer to send me some Homozon: I sincerely appreciate it and will

take you up on it. (It is difficult and rather expensive to get in Sweden.) I

will make a serious effort to work up to 3 teaspoons/day and report the results

to you and/or the list. I definitely need to accelerate in my recovery in order

to be able to keep my commitments in the near future!

Björn

Doedens wrote:

> Hallo Bjorn,

>

> I understand that there is unclearity on the knowledge and effects of Homozon.

> Concerning the laxative effects (personal experience):

>

> Some weeks ago somebody posted a mail on the oxylist stating that using

ozonated water caused loosening of the bowel.

> That means that the oxygen (single oxygen atom) does cause a laxative effects.

Ofcourse the question is:

> Are the very strong laxative effects we see with Homozon when people start to

use the product caused solely by the oxygen or does also the magnesium

contribute to this effect. Honestly I don't know. But as concluded above, some

at least is caused by the oxygen, and the question is how much lose stool can

just one small teaspoon of magnesium cause. The way to test this would be to

digest an equal amount of pure magnesium powder (same amount you normally take

homozon) and see how strong the laxative effects are.

>

> I've been using Homozon now for two years and in the beginning I have had the

same questions. Like I wrote I still don't know how much of the lose stool is

caused by the magnesium. I do know however that my lose stools are getting less.

I take now - since shortly - about three teaspoons a day, almost heaping

teaspoons. When I did this sporadically many months ago I was only releasing

fluid stools, now my stools are quite ok. Actually it is just nice I never have

obstipation, just always a quite easy stool and only sometimes a bit more lose.

>

> But by taking this amount of Homozon another thing has started to arise: My

live is changing quite considerably.

>

> I'm an amalgam damaged person. I've had many infectious diseases including

TBC, which requires to take antibiotics for one year three times a day. This

probably caused a medicine poisoning on my liver (also had Hep A before). Next

to that I have heart weakness (caused by the mercury from the amalgam) So

before, when I did not use Homozon, my daily schedule looked like a lazy holiday

schedule, only it was a forced holiday schedule: Getting up in the morning at

10.00 AM, work for a few hours and then going to bed after the lunch cause my

liver

> could not digest well the proteins. Then again in the afternoon doing my work

for the different foundations I'm working for and being very tired in the

evening mostly go to bed at 23.00 hrs.

> Next to this I had regulair strong ME attacks, that made me immobile sometimes

for just a few hours, but also for days on end.

> (As a remedy I would go to a very good EV tester (VOL) that would mostly come

up with some food conservation chemicals that seem to blocked my

neurotransmitters and impulses in the nerves.)

>

> Now, after using Homozon for two years, but only lately starting to take more

then one teaspoon a day. My life is miraculously changing since hightening the

does. The last few days I have been working with a friend on a painting job. So

that is quite physical. It's quite surprising to see that I'm making days of 18

hours with 6 hours of physical work and feel as good as ever. Yes I'm only

sleeping like 5 hours !! cause I've to take the bus at 06.00 to travel two hours

to the house that has to be painted. I feels a bit as if I'm the man of 6

> million. (of course I'm not, have to be carefull not to exaggerate).

>

> Still I feel some pain in my heart area so have to be very carefull, but it is

really trully amazing. No problems with digesting anyfood. Almost no ME attacks

- ofcourse I still take everycare to avoid chemicals in foods.

>

> So, what I would like to say to you is that is does not really matter so much

with Homozon these detailed small side effects and how they are caused or -

considering our earlier discussion - how much the intestial flora is changed or

maybe slightly damaged - which I think is absolutely not the case and if so it

seems that it is reseaded with friendly bacteria immediately: I have no problem

digesting and absorbing any food what so ever.

>

> The results of taking three teaspoons of Homozon are beyond my wildest dreams,

I wish the same to you and everybody else.

>

> Regards

>

> Doedens

> Ps 1. And I'm not writing this cause I'm selling the stuff. I will send you a

free container if you want, but then you have to promiss me to work towards

taking 3 teaspoons a day ). As a beginner you will have to keep your

toiletpaper ready )

>

> Ps 2.

> By the way what are your health problems, if any?

>

> Bjorn Roxendal wrote:

>

> > These are the claims that are typically made for Homozon. But there is very

little research to back them up. It seems clear that magnesium, with or without

oxygen, is a strong laxative. I personally doubt that the following is true: " As

long as only Magazon or Homozon is used, watery stools will be present till the

digestive tract is freed of waste matters. " It seems to me that large doses of

magnesium, with or wothout the oxygen, will cause diarrhea no matter what, even

if the digestive tract is freed of waste matters.

> >

> > " Laurie K. " wrote:

> >

> > > As long as the digestive tract is not cleared, there is

> > > little or no chance for the active oxygen to reach, passing

> > > through the capillaries and blood vessels, the other,

> > > especially the extreme, parts or organs of the body....

> > >

> > > Frequent stools ( from use of the products) will cease as

> > > soon as the digestive tract is free of waste matters, then

> > > nascent oxygen (even of large and frequent doses of the

> > > preparations) will be available for the purification of the

> > > blood and lymph vessels and organs; a heavier urination will

> > > take place and is necessary to carry off the waste products

> > > of the oxidation process. As long as only Magazon or Homozon

> > > is used, watery stools will be present till the the

> > > digestive tract is freed of waste matters. These stools are

> > > the logical result of oxidation (oxidation means changing

> > > solid waste matters into water and gas), it has nothing to

> > > do with diarrhea and does not weaken the body. "

> > > this is from page 154 of Oxygen Therapies.

> > > page 153=

> >

[Guest guest]

Shipment is coming, please sent me your address private.

When you are working full time in an office job e.g. then ofcourse it needs some

creative way of taking care when you use 3 teaspoons of homozon a day.

One thing I've changed for my self and which has been an important improvement

is that whenever I feel that I have to go to the bathroom while I'm in an

important conversation I think: 'Hey, this great medicine is doing its work

again, pitty for the people in this room that they don't know of this great

medicine!'

In that way all stress is gone when I have the urge. It is a good sign and in

this way much easier to control (without condemning it, which creates stress),

so then I go when the conversation is over, or I proudly tell them that I do

have to visit the bathroom for a moment. (Take note of the word 'proudly' )

This really helped me to relax and control the use of Homozon.

Regards

Bjorn Roxendal wrote:

> , I appreciete your generous and detailed sharing of your Homozon/life

experiences. I may have come across as slightly Homozon negative when bringing

up possible side effects of Homozon, as well as doubting some of the claims

generally made about the product, but that is not actually where I am coming

from. I am a bit tired of the tendency towards " blind belief " and " mumbo jumbo "

that I see displayed in alternative circles and I think it is wise to be

somewhat inquisitive and critically(although not negatively) review claims that

are made

> about products. I have used Homozon myself for about three months, and

continue to use it, in spite of the possible side effects. I have felt an

increase in energy (although not very strong) and that is something I really

need! I have been quite sick in CFS and am still recovering. Right now I am

functioning at about 70% capacity, up from around 10 or 20% a few years ago.

Since I am starting a very demanding full time job on Aug 1, I am under

considerable pressure and definitely need additional improvements! I own and use

a QXCI machine, which is

> helping in my recovery. Since coming on this list I have started to do liver

cleanses (got about 100 stones out the first time and 200 the second). I have

been experimenting with H2O2 and am currently using it as an inhalation spray.

Cayenne/turmeric is another current favorite of mine.

>

> Regarding you offer to send me some Homozon: I sincerely appreciate it and

will take you up on it. (It is difficult and rather expensive to get in

Sweden.) I will make a serious effort to work up to 3 teaspoons/day and report

the results to you and/or the list. I definitely need to accelerate in my

recovery in order to be able to keep my commitments in the near future!

>

> Björn

>

> Doedens wrote:

>

> > Hallo Bjorn,

> >

> > I understand that there is unclearity on the knowledge and effects of

Homozon.

> > Concerning the laxative effects (personal experience):

> >

> > Some weeks ago somebody posted a mail on the oxylist stating that using

ozonated water caused loosening of the bowel.

> > That means that the oxygen (single oxygen atom) does cause a laxative

effects. Ofcourse the question is:

> > Are the very strong laxative effects we see with Homozon when people start

to use the product caused solely by the oxygen or does also the magnesium

contribute to this effect. Honestly I don't know. But as concluded above, some

at least is caused by the oxygen, and the question is how much lose stool can

just one small teaspoon of magnesium cause. The way to test this would be to

digest an equal amount of pure magnesium powder (same amount you normally take

homozon) and see how strong the laxative effects are.

> >

> > I've been using Homozon now for two years and in the beginning I have had

the same questions. Like I wrote I still don't know how much of the lose stool

is caused by the magnesium. I do know however that my lose stools are getting

less. I take now - since shortly - about three teaspoons a day, almost heaping

teaspoons. When I did this sporadically many months ago I was only releasing

fluid stools, now my stools are quite ok. Actually it is just nice I never have

obstipation, just always a quite easy stool and only sometimes a bit more lose.

> >

> > But by taking this amount of Homozon another thing has started to arise: My

live is changing quite considerably.

> >

> > I'm an amalgam damaged person. I've had many infectious diseases including

TBC, which requires to take antibiotics for one year three times a day. This

probably caused a medicine poisoning on my liver (also had Hep A before). Next

to that I have heart weakness (caused by the mercury from the amalgam) So

before, when I did not use Homozon, my daily schedule looked like a lazy holiday

schedule, only it was a forced holiday schedule: Getting up in the morning at

10.00 AM, work for a few hours and then going to bed after the lunch cause my

liver

> > could not digest well the proteins. Then again in the afternoon doing my

work for the different foundations I'm working for and being very tired in the

evening mostly go to bed at 23.00 hrs.

> > Next to this I had regulair strong ME attacks, that made me immobile

sometimes for just a few hours, but also for days on end.

> > (As a remedy I would go to a very good EV tester (VOL) that would mostly

come up with some food conservation chemicals that seem to blocked my

neurotransmitters and impulses in the nerves.)

> >

> > Now, after using Homozon for two years, but only lately starting to take

more then one teaspoon a day. My life is miraculously changing since hightening

the does. The last few days I have been working with a friend on a painting job.

So that is quite physical. It's quite surprising to see that I'm making days of

18 hours with 6 hours of physical work and feel as good as ever. Yes I'm only

sleeping like 5 hours !! cause I've to take the bus at 06.00 to travel two hours

to the house that has to be painted. I feels a bit as if I'm the man of 6

> > million. (of course I'm not, have to be carefull not to exaggerate).

> >

> > Still I feel some pain in my heart area so have to be very carefull, but it

is really trully amazing. No problems with digesting anyfood. Almost no ME

attacks - ofcourse I still take everycare to avoid chemicals in foods.

> >

> > So, what I would like to say to you is that is does not really matter so

much with Homozon these detailed small side effects and how they are caused or

- considering our earlier discussion - how much the intestial flora is changed

or maybe slightly damaged - which I think is absolutely not the case and if so

it seems that it is reseaded with friendly bacteria immediately: I have no

problem digesting and absorbing any food what so ever.

> >

> > The results of taking three teaspoons of Homozon are beyond my wildest

dreams, I wish the same to you and everybody else.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Doedens

> > Ps 1. And I'm not writing this cause I'm selling the stuff. I will send you

a free container if you want, but then you have to promiss me to work towards

taking 3 teaspoons a day ). As a beginner you will have to keep your

toiletpaper ready )

> >

> > Ps 2.

> > By the way what are your health problems, if any?

> >

> > Bjorn Roxendal wrote:

> >

> > > These are the claims that are typically made for Homozon. But there is

very little research to back them up. It seems clear that magnesium, with or

without oxygen, is a strong laxative. I personally doubt that the following is

true: " As long as only Magazon or Homozon is used, watery stools will be present

till the digestive tract is freed of waste matters. " It seems to me that large

doses of magnesium, with or wothout the oxygen, will cause diarrhea no matter

what, even if the digestive tract is freed of waste matters.

> > >

> > > " Laurie K. " wrote:

> > >

> > > > As long as the digestive tract is not cleared, there is

> > > > little or no chance for the active oxygen to reach, passing

> > > > through the capillaries and blood vessels, the other,

> > > > especially the extreme, parts or organs of the body....

> > > >

> > > > Frequent stools ( from use of the products) will cease as

> > > > soon as the digestive tract is free of waste matters, then

> > > > nascent oxygen (even of large and frequent doses of the

> > > > preparations) will be available for the purification of the

> > > > blood and lymph vessels and organs; a heavier urination will

> > > > take place and is necessary to carry off the waste products

> > > > of the oxidation process. As long as only Magazon or Homozon

> > > > is used, watery stools will be present till the the

> > > > digestive tract is freed of waste matters. These stools are

> > > > the logical result of oxidation (oxidation means changing

> > > > solid waste matters into water and gas), it has nothing to

> > > > do with diarrhea and does not weaken the body. "

> > > > this is from page 154 of Oxygen Therapies.

> > > > page 153=

> > >

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Bjorn Roxendal wrote:

> These are the claims that are typically made for Homozon.

> But there is very little research to back them up. It

> seems clear that magnesium, with or without oxygen, is a

> strong laxative. I personally doubt that the following is

> true: " As long as only Magazon or Homozon is used, watery

> stools will be present till the digestive tract is freed

> of waste matters. " It seems to me that large doses of

> magnesium, with or wothout the oxygen, will cause diarrhea

> no matter what, even if the digestive tract is freed of

> waste matters.

>

> " Laurie K. " wrote:

>

> > As long as the digestive tract is not cleared, there is

> > little or no chance for the active oxygen to reach,

> passing

> > through the capillaries and blood vessels, the other,

> > especially the extreme, parts or organs of the body....

> >

> > Frequent stools ( from use of the products) will cease

> as

> > soon as the digestive tract is free of waste matters,

> then

> > nascent oxygen (even of large and frequent doses of the

> > preparations) will be available for the purification of

> the

> > blood and lymph vessels and organs; a heavier urination

> will

> > take place and is necessary to carry off the waste

> products

> > of the oxidation process. As long as only Magazon or

> Homozon

> > is used, watery stools will be present till the the

> > digestive tract is freed of waste matters. These stools

> are

> > the logical result of oxidation (oxidation means

> changing

> > solid waste matters into water and gas), it has nothing

> to

> > do with diarrhea and does not weaken the body. "

> > this is from page 154 of Oxygen Therapies.

> > page 153=

>

>