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Hi EveryOne,

This is from the Kombucha Threads found in the file section of the Original

Kombucha Home Page

kombucha tea/

Peace, Love and Harmony,

Bev

Fibromyalgia

This Fibromyalgia thread was unraveled from: The Kombucha

Digest V1#1 thru V2#550

There is a good commercial WebSite at:

http://www.reversingfibromyalgia.com/index.html

This is a commercial site and they are selling a product

but there is good information there as well.

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or implied warranties. While every effort has been taken to

ensure the accuracy of the information contained in this file,

the editor/authors/contributors assume no responsibility for

errors or omissions, or for damages resulting from the use of

the information contained herein. This information may not be

included in any compilations or commercial collections without

express written permission from the editor. I make no claims as

to the efficacy of Kombucha Tea for any medical condition. This

is a compilation of anecdotal data. This data may be freely

copied for personal use and educational purposes and may be

given to others as long as there is no commercial use made of

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Copyright c April 1997

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From: JACK BARCLAY <ASD003@...>

Date: Fri, 09 Jun 95 09:55:17 MDT

Subject: Fibromyalgia

,

On Mon, 29 May 1995 12:12:25 -0400 gary harper said:

>>Now I have another question. My GF has Lupus, Fibromyalgia and

Cardiac Arrythmia. She is on ambien10mg 1xday,Pamelor 25mg

1xday, Klonopin 1mg 1xday, Zoloft 100mg 1xday, Toradol 10mg 1

every 6hrs. and Voltaren 75mg 2xday. Everyone of these meds say

not to drink any alcohol. My question is; can she drink this tea

safely while taking these meds?<<

The alcohol is about 0.5% and this is considered nonalcoholic.

Your GF should have no problem drinking the tea and it would

probably be helpful. Start slowly, an oz. a day and work up to

4 oz. twice a day.

Blessings,

Jack

-sep---------------------------------------------------------

From: JYZA61A@... (MS MARGE E DEHAVEN)

Date: Sun, 09 Jul 1995 19:14:55 EDT

Subject: Re: RX'S and KTEA??

Hi Bill, I have a genetic muscle disability called

Fibromyalgia.

My muscles are not spastic and this creates a lot of pain in my

muscles and joints. This disease is as my son says a

hypochondriacs dream.

There are so many other problems that it causes. I am new at

this holistic med so please bare with me. The meds that I take

can not be stop at this time. I take 150mg of amitriptyline at

night to get the healing stage four sleep, Inderal (a beta

blocker) for rapid heart and anxiety attacks, and a muscle

relaxer (soma) to help relieve the pain so I may work. I also

need either cortisone shot or an anti-inflammatory med for when

a am in an acute phase. I am 43 and I have been on so much

since I was 27 that I am open to anything to slowly get off this

stuff, not to mention all the money that I have to put out. I

may someday be disabled if I don't find an alternative soon.

There are so many people that are far worse than me.... I just

want to be as literate as I can be in this new (to me) subject.

Thank you all for the info.

Margie

-sep---------------------------------------------------------

From: Goodhouse <richardg@...>

Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 00:28:13 -0800

Subject: (FYI)-Fibromyalgia Info.

Fibromyalgia -- a guide for patients

A. Nye MD, 13 Aug 95

What is fibromyalgia?

Fibromyalgia is a common and disabling disorder affecting 2-4%

of the population, women more often than men. Despite the

condition's frequency, the diagnosis is often missed. Patients

with fibromyalgia usually ache all over, sleep poorly, are stiff

on waking, and are tired all day. They are prone to headaches,

memory and concentration problems, dizziness, numbness and

tingling, itching, fluid retention, crampy abdominal or pelvic

pain and diarrhea, and several other symptoms.

There are no diagnostic lab or x-ray abnormalities, but a

physician can confirm the diagnosis by finding multiple tender

points in characteristic locations. Fibromyalgia often runs in

families, suggesting an inherited predisposition. It may lie

dormant until triggered by an injury, stress, or sleep

disturbance. It is closely related to the chronic fatigue and

irritable bowel syndromes. Some have suggested that these are

all just different facets of the same underlying disorder.

What causes it?

Fibromyalgia has mistakenly been thought to be either an

inflammatory or a psychiatric condition. However, no evidence

of inflammation or arthritis has been found, and it is now

believed that depression and anxiety when present are more often

the result than the cause of fibromyalgia.

There is better evidence that fibromyalgia is due to an

abnormality of deep sleep. Abnormal brain waveforms have been

found in deep sleep in many patients with fibromyalgia.

Fibromyalgia-like symptoms can be produced in normal volunteers

by depriving them of deep sleep for a few days. Low levels of

growth hormone, important in maintaining good muscle and other

soft tissue health, have been found in patients with

fibromyalgia. This hormone is produced almost exclusively in

deep sleep, and its production is increased by exercise.

I should point out though that while this is my personal

favorite among the theories of the cause of fibromyalgia, there

are several other viable ones, and at this time there is

probably not a majority of fibromyalgia researchers that

supports any one theory.

How is it treated?

Taking medication by itself has relatively little effect on

fibromyalgia symptoms. Successful treatment requires active

involvement of the patient in his or her care, including:

1) Medication to improve deep sleep.

2) Regular sleep hours and an adequate amount of sleep.

3) Daily gentle aerobic exercise.

4) Avoidance of undue physical and emotional stress.

5) Treatment of any coexisting sleep disorders.

6) Patient education.

If any of these steps are omitted, the chance of significant

improvement is greatly reduced.

Medications

A number of medications have been used to improve sleep in

fibromyalgia. The oldest of these is amitriptyline (Elavil), a

medication first used to treat depression. Amitriptyline and

related medications probably work by improving the quality and

depth of deep sleep rather than by any effect on mood. As

amitriptyline has a number of bothersome side effects, such as

weight gain, dry mouth, and fuzzy-headedness, I rarely try it

first. Other often-prescribed medications with less bothersome

side effects include trazodone (Desyrel), diphenhydramine

(Benadryl), cyclobenzaprine (Flexeril), alprazolam (Xanax),

carisoprodol (Soma), and 5-hydroxytryptophan.

Medication is started at a low dose and gradually increased

until you sleep well at night and feel good during the day,

encounter unacceptable side effects, or reach the prescribed

maximum dose. Starting low and slow helps minimize initial side

effects such as dizziness and morning grogginess. By two to

four weeks, most patients find that the side effects are

settling down and the fibromyalgia symptoms are starting to

improve.

It often takes a lot of fiddling with the dose to get it exactly

right, and it frequently will be necessary to try several

medications in succession or sometimes in combination. Some

patients find that certain of these medications cause

stimulation rather than sedation, as if one has had too many

cups of coffee. When this " paradoxical effect " occurs it will

be necessary to switch to another medication. The medication

may become less effective after a period of time and the dose

may then need to be increased slightly. Most patients will need

to continue on medication indefinitely.

There are several herbal and other " alternative " remedies that

some patients feel are helpful. While I can't recommend them

simply because they haven't been adequately studied for efficacy

or long term harm, I don't discourage patients from using them

if they find them helpful.

Regular sleep

Patients with fibromyalgia must get to bed by the same time

every night and get enough sleep. Staying up just one hour late

may cause an exacerbation that lasts for several days. Many

patients with fibromyalgia have exacerbations triggered by the

change over to or from Daylight Savings time. Try to make the

switch in fifteen minute increments every few days instead of by

one hour overnight. I have had no success getting patients

truly feeling well who work off shifts that prevent them from

having a consistent bedtime or require that they sleep during

the day.

Exercise

Daily gentle aerobic exercise is very important. While patients

who try to do too much exercise too soon or of the wrong type

will make themselves temporarily worse, most patients who don't

begin a daily aerobic exercise regimen will never notice much

improvement. Aerobic exercise is defined as exercise that gets

your heart rate up to a target heart rate for the duration of

the exercise period. Heart rates are measured in beats per

minute. It is accurate enough for our purposes just to take

your pulse for 6 seconds and multiply by 10. The aerobic target

heart rate is calculated from the following formula:

(220 - age - rhr) x .6 + rhr

where age is your age in years and rhr your resting heart rate,

determined by taking your pulse when you wake up but before

getting out of bed. A good place to feel your pulse is at the

wrist turned palm up, next to the large bone on the thumb side

at the end of your forearm. If you are exercising hard enough

you should be able to feel your heart beating and can just count

that. For most people, the aerobic target heart rate is at

about the point where they can no longer sing but can still talk

comfortably.

Exercise seems not to work through conditioning of muscles but

rather through a direct, possibly hormonal effect on pain and

sleep, which explains why you don't need to exercise painful

muscles for the pain in them to decrease. Daily exercise is

essential. Patients who have been exercising regularly and then

miss a day usually find that their fibromyalgia symptoms are

significantly worse for the next day or two.

The kind of exercise is unimportant. Just make sure to pick

something that doesn't make you hurt worse. It may take trying

several different kinds before finding one or more types that

agree with you. Popular kinds include walking, a water exercise

program, regular or exercise bicycles, other exercise equipment,

and *gentle* aerobic dance. Jogging, vigorous aerobic dance,

and weight lifting tend not to very good choices. If your pain

is mainly in your legs or back, exercise just your arms or try

exercising in the water.

While many patients insist that they get plenty of exercise at

work, doing housework, or in their yard, it is rarely the right

kind. Effective exercise must result in a sustained elevation

of the heart rate, and these incidental kinds of exercise are

usually stop and go and may instead increase your pain. You

need to set aside a time specifically for daily exercise.

Particularly if you are out of shape, start out with just 3-5

minutes of exercise and gradually increase as tolerated,

shooting for twenty to thirty minutes. Take a few minutes to

stretch your muscles, then start out slowly, increasing to full

speed after a minute or two. Slow down again for the last

minute or two and repeat the stretches. There are five

recommended stretches, each done for 20 seconds a side. They

should be gentle and painless. Hold onto a tree or post for

support for #s 3-5:

1) Shrug your shoulders in a circular motion.

2) Reach your arm over your head and bend to the opposite side.

3) Bend forward with your legs straight.

4) Pull your foot towards your buttock while standing on the

other leg.

5) With your feet flat on the ground and one foot ahead of the

other, lean forward, bending just the front knee.

Exercise is most effective if done in the late afternoon or

early evening. If you absolutely can't do it then, exercising

earlier in the day is better than not exercising at all, but you

will probably need to exercise longer for the same effect.

Don't exercise just before bed as this may interfere with sleep.

Some patients find that exercise provides an immediate benefit,

making them feel more alert and comfortable for several hours.

If you experience this effect, you may want to try exercising on

awakening and at noon as well. Some patients for whom this

works may not need medication.

Avoid physical and emotional stress

Too much physical activity of the wrong kind will make you feel

worse. Rather than doing housecleaning, yard work, or other

physical activity all on one day, break up the task so that you

do a half hour or an hour every day until it is done. While it

is difficult to learn to do this, it is essential that you be

able to sense when you have reached your limit and stop. By

pacing yourself, you will be more productive overall. You need

to be able to say no to family and friends when you are not up

to some outing or other activity. Don't take on extra

responsibilities if you can avoid it.

Stress also worsens fibromyalgia symptoms. If you have ongoing

problems with depression or anxiety, consider seeking help for

them from your family doctor or a psychiatrist. Anxiety and

depression may arise as symptoms of fibromyalgia and in turn

cause insomnia, leading to worsening of the underlying problem.

Relaxation techniques or a chronic pain program can also help

lower your stress level and are of proven benefit in treating

fibromyalgia.

Treat other sleep disorders

Several other sleep disorders besides insomnia may aggravate

fibromyalgia. Almost half of men with fibromyalgia and some

women have obstructive sleep apnea. In this condition the

patient snores loudly and has periodic pauses in breathing after

which he starts breathing again with a snort. Periodic limb

movements of sleep is a condition in which patients jerk or kick

every 30 to 90 seconds for long periods during the night.

Patients may be completely unaware of either of these conditions

until the spouse complains. Not only will it be difficult to

get fibromyalgia symptoms to improve without treating other

sleep disorders, but if sleep apnea is left untreated it may

lead to accidental death or injury as well as early strokes or

heart attacks. Be sure to tell your physician about these

problems if you notice them.

Other common sources of repeated sleep disturbance are a

spouse's snoring and young children. If the spouse drinks

alcohol in the evenings or is overweight, then avoidance of

alcohol after supper or weight loss may eliminate snoring.

Avoiding sleeping on the back will often help. At the very

least, the patient can wear earplugs. Children are harder to

put off but fortunately most soon outgrow their need for care at

night.

Miscellaneous factors

It is important to avoid prescription tranquilizers and sleeping

medications of the benzodiazepine group. While these may help

you get to sleep, they suppress deep sleep and therefore often

make fibromyalgia symptoms worse the next day. Alcohol and

narcotic pain medications taken in the evenings have the same

effect on deep sleep and should be avoided. Some patients have

noticed that certain foods may trigger fibromyalgia symptoms

much as they may migraines. Some have found that a diet low in

fats and simple sugars helps. If you suspect that some food

make you worse, try avoiding it and see if that makes a

difference.

Patients with fibromyalgia should probably give up caffeine

completely as even one cup in the morning can sometimes disrupt

sleep at night and may also directly increase muscle pain and

headaches. If you are drinking more than a cup a day you should

taper yourself off caffeine-containing beverages over two weeks

or so to minimize withdrawal symptoms such as headaches.

Support and education

Patients who make the effort to learn as much as possible about

this disorder usually do better than those who don't. I

recommend that you keep this handy and re-read it periodically.

Fibromyalgia sufferers often elicit less sympathy and support

than they deserve from family, friends, and employers because of

the lack of outward evidence of disease. Many have been told by

physicians that there is nothing wrong with them or that it is

" all in your head " which can be very demoralizing. For these

reasons, and just because it is good to know that you are not

alone, attending a support group can be valuable. There are

local chapters in most areas now of the Fibromyalgia Network.

This organization also produces a newsletter worth subscribing

to. Contact them at:

Fibromyalgia Network

PO Box 31750

Tucson, Az. 85751-1750

info line: (520) 290-5508

fax: (520) 290-5550

For those of you with internet access, alt.med.fibromyalgia, a

Usenet newsgroup devoted to fibromyalgia, is a great place for

information and support.

Staying in remission

While fibromyalgia is not curable, most patients with a little

work can make it to the point where they feel substantially

better most of the time. Even with good results from treatment

however brief relapses are common, perhaps caused by staying up

as little as one hour late one evening, skipping exercise, a

disruption in your routine, increased stress, a storm front

moving in, or often for no apparent reason. You will do best if

you " give in to it " when this happens and try to get extra rest.

Ibuprofen or naproxen and hot baths may help at these times. If

at all possible, try not to stop exercising when this happens,

even if you have to back off on the amount a little. Once you

have had a period of feeling relatively well, it should be

possible to get you back to that point again by identifying what

derailed you and correcting the problem.

The fibromyalgia tender points

To qualify for a diagnosis of fibromyalgia, patients must ache

all over and have tenderness in at least 11 of these 18 spots

when 4 kgs. of pressure are applied.

__ __

/ \ / \ Location of FMS tender points:

| | | OO |

| | | __ |

\__/ \ / 1) Attachment of neck muscles

11 -- at the base of the skull

_2_||_2_ _2_88_2_

/ \ / \ 2) Midway between neck and

| 3 3 | | 99 | shoulder

| | | | 3) Muscle over upper inner

| | | | | | | | shoulder blade

| | | | | | | |

| | | | | | /\ | | 4) 2 cms below side bone at

| | | | |_| / \ |_| elbow

|@| |@| | | | | 5) upper outer buttock

4 |\ /| 4 | |\ /| |

| |/ \| | | |/ \| | 6) Hip bone

| ||5 5|| | | || || |

| |6 6| | | |6 6| | 7) Just above knee on inside

| || )( || | | || /\ || |

( )| || |( ) ( )| || |( ) 8) Lower neck in front

| || | | || |

| || | | || | 9) Edge of upper breast bone

|-77-| |@77@|

| || | | || |

| || | | || |

| || | | || |

| || | | || |

_| || |_ _| || |_

(___/\___) (___/\___)

How to find a fibromyalgia specialist

If you are not one of the lucky few whose primary doctor is

knowledgeable about fibromyalgia or at least willing to work

with you and learn about it, you will need to see a fibromyalgia

specialist. Unfortunately, finding one is often difficult.

They can be found in many different specialties. Most are

rheumatologists or physiatrists (physical medicine

rehabilitation specialists), but you can't assume that any given

rheumatologist or physiatrist will be able to help. Some are

internists, anesthesiologists, or neurologists.

The best way to find a fibromyalgia specialist is to get a

referral from the Fibromyalgia Network (see above) which keeps a

list of recommended doctors and also go to a local fibromyalgia

support group meeting and ask for recommendations. It is best

to do both because the FMNet list is incomplete. Those of you

out there who already have good fibromyalgia specialists please

let the FMNet know. A fibromyalgia specialist will be able to

perform a tender point exam (without which it is impossible to

make the diagnosis), will tell you that it is not possible to

cure fibromyalgia but that most patients can be helped

substantially, and will appear to enjoy treating it.

Nye MD (nyeda@...), Midelfort Clinic, Eau , WI

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From: Diane Andres <whistlin@...>

Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 14:19:52 -0400

Subject: Re: Fibromyalgia

Dawn,

Does your mother have amalgam fillings? You should have toxic

metal testing done on her. Mine was caused by mercury and tin.

Got my amalgams out, had DMPS treatments (6) and poof! No more

fibromyalgia.

Also check for allergies, esp. food and chemicals.

Diane

-sep---------------------------------------------------------

From: Diane Andres <whistlin@...>

Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 17:05:49 -0400

Subject: Re: Fibromyalgia

Dawn,

DMPS is a chemical imported from Russia that pulls heavy metals

out of the body. I took Kombucha tea for three months before

the first treatment, and the tea had pulled the mercury from

the deep tissues and made it extremely easy for the DMPS to

reach it and dump it. Therefore, even with toxic levels of

mercury, it only took six treatments instead of 13 that they

thought it would take. DMPS is administered IV. Very simple.

Some say that the K-tea will remove heavy metals by itself. It

was still in my system, however easier to reach.

Diane

-sep---------------------------------------------------------

From: Fritz Owens <fo01@...>

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:27:26 -0500 (CDT)

Subject: Re: Fibromyalgia

Has your mother done any investigation of Vitamin E? The main

function of Vitamin E is to enable the blood to carry more

oxygen. I would think this would be right down her alley. One

caution: in people having problems with high blood pressure, you

cannot start with large doses of Vitamin E as initially a high

dose tends to elevate the blood pressure. Most people take

Vitamin E for lowering of blood pressure but you have to start

with very small dosages - 50 I.U.'s (International Units) a day

for a week then double the dose. Continue doing that until you

reach the minimum effective dose recommended by the Shute

Foundation in London, Ontario, Canada. They have been treating

people with severe circulatory problems with natural vitamin E

for over 40 years with huge amounts of success. Be careful when

you buy the vitamin. The natural vitamin E that works the most

efficiently and gets the best results is the factor " d-alpha

tocopherol " . If you get the vitamin E that says " dl-alpha-

tocopherol " it is synthetic and does not work as well as the

natural one. Also, the mixed tocopherols with gamma and beta in

them do not work as well. I have not seen any evidence yet,

particularly from Mike Roussin who is doing all of the research

on Kombucha Tea, that the tea contains any vitamin E but I would

not be surprised considering the help it has given people with

high blood pressure. Hope this helps.

Fritz

-sep---------------------------------------------------------

From: therevvv@... (The Rev'd L. Garner, Jr.)

Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:18:27 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: fibromyalgia & kombucha

A parishioner (and a missionary we know) have both be diagnosed

with fibromyalgia (and chronic fatigue immune dysfunction

syndrome). My parishioner is not a web-person had asked me to

search on the web for info on both the diseases and kombucha

(Manchurian) mushroom tea. Until tonight, I had only been able

to find her some " stuff " on the illnesses (there's only so much

time in a day!). While tonight I was able to find your site (and

others) there is no mention of the tea being used with

fibromyalgia and/or CFIDS. My parishioner is claiming a

complete loss of symptoms and more energy than she has had in a

long time. Nevertheless, she wanted to find if others were

having similar experiences, before e-mailing the info to the

missionary in the Philippines.

Peace,

Jim Garner

-sep---------------------------------------------------------

From: Henry & Dawn Krans <hdkrans@...>

Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:53:13 -0400

Subject: Re: fibromyalgia & kombucha

This is the best news I have ever heard. I posted a letter back

a couple weeks ago, regarding my Mom.. she has been battling

Fibromyalgia for about 10 years. I was wondering if anyone had

any experience with K-tea and Fibro...Please please pass along

your info to me...I am sending a batch of K-tea to her in two

weeks...maybe one.. we live far away from each other. But, if

it will help her, I am willing to brew it and send it to her..

At 11:18 AM 19/06/96 -0400, you wrote:

>A parishioner (and a missionary we know) have both be diagnosed

<snip>

>Jim Garner

-sep---------------------------------------------------------

From: jf <jf2@...>

Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 19:30:41 -0400

Subject: Jim Garner / fibromyalgia

Hi Jim, and All,

My sister is suffering from fibromyalgia. She does not take

Kombucha. She did have breast implants though. She had them

removed, and her symptoms began to clear. She is feeling

infinitely better. The implants were NOT leaking or damaged,

but the sacks that contain the saline are made of silicone. I

have heard people with all kinds of implants, from teeth

implants to chin, cheekbone to joints, even metal teeth

fillings, suffer with fm symptoms.

Thanks,

-sep---------------------------------------------------------

From: " A.son " <angusd@...>

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:52:21 +1000

Subject: Re: fibromyalgia & kombucha

Dear Jim,

I have had CFS for several years and since starting Kombucha

about 2.5 months ago have had similar results to the ones you

have described. In particular a much greater amount of energy

and more settled digestion. It is wonderful to hear such great

news as yours, and I wouldn't hesitate to relay the information

to your other friend, perhaps with the caveat that it does work

differently for different people.

Best wishes,

Angus

-sep---------------------------------------------------------

From: jim.bailey@... (Jim )

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 04:20:00 GMT

Subject: Fibromyalgia

There have been posts about the above; I ran across this:

--------------------- Article --------------------

WARNING! NutraSweet is A Neurotoxin

The THALIDOMIDE of the 90's is ASPARTAME otherwise known as

EQUAL, NUTRASWEET or SPOONFUL. In May, 1992 Flying Safety

Magazine explained the dangers:

In pregnancy the effects of aspartame can be passed directly on

to the fetus, even in very small doses. Some people have

suffered aspartame related disorders with doses as small as that

carried in a single stick of chewing gum. This could mean a

pilot who drinks diet sodas is more susceptible to flicker

vertigo, or to flicker-induced epileptic activity. It also

means that all pilots are potential victims of sudden memory

loss, dizziness during instrument flight and gradual loss of

vision.

Some pilots have experienced grand mal seizures in the cockpits

of commercial airline flights and have lost medical

certification to fly, with it their careers. FDA consistently

approves killer drugs as the February '94 OMNI MAGAZINE

reported:

If you are using aspartame and have headaches, depression,

slurred speech, loss of memory, fibromyalgia type symptoms,

loss of sensation in lower legs or shooting pains, loss of

equilibrium, vertigo, anxiety attacks, chronic fatigue, vision

loss, floaters, retinal detachment, seizures, heart

palpitations, etc. you have ASPARTAME DISEASE! Many physicians

are diagnosing multiple sclerosis when in reality it is methanol

toxicity which mimics MS. Get off this dangerous drug right

away. MS is not a death sentence, but methanol toxicity is!

<Snip>

Aspartame is a molecule composed of three components: aspartic

acid, phenylalanine and methanol. Once ingested the methanol,

wood alcohol that has killed or blinded thousands of skid row

drunks, converts into formaldehyde and formic (Ant Sting

Poison). Formaldehyde, a deadly neurotoxin, is common embalming

fluid, a Class A Carcinogen. Phenylalanine is also neurotoxic

when unaccompanied by the other amino acids in proteins.

Aspartic acid causes brain lesions in neuroendocrine disorders

in experimental animals. There are 92 documented symptoms

including:

Headaches, Numbness, Fatigue, Blurred vision, Heart

palpitations, Memory loss, Dizziness, Muscle spasms, Weight

gain, Irritability, Anxiety attacks, Vertigo Seizures, Rashes,

Blindness, Tachycardia, Tinnitus, Joint pain, Nausea,

Depression, Hearing loss, Slurred speech, Loss of taste,

Insomnia...

<Snip>

SOME DISEASES TRIGGERED BY ASPARTAME:

Brain tumors and other cancers, Multiple sclerosis, Epilepsy,

FIBROMYALGIA, Graves Disease, Chronic fatigue syndrome, Epstein

Barr, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, Diabetes, Mental retardation,

Lymphoma, Birth defects, Systemic Lupus, Death!

<Snip>

A 1987 abstract submitted by Dr. H. J. (world expert on

Aspartame and diabetic specialist) summarized 58 diabetic

aspartame reactors. He says " I now advise ALL patients with

diabetes and hypoglycemia to avoid Aspartame products. "

The above was *severely* cut. If anyone wants the whole thing,

my email is: jim.bailey@...

Regards, Jim

-sep---------------------------------------------------------

From Ariana's Survey of KT drinkers:

Why are these people drinking Kombucha??

* 27% 'General Maintenance'. They are not ill and do not want

to be.

* 10% Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or Fibromyalgia

* 15% M.S., Hepatitis C, HIV, Cancer

* 13% Arthritis, and related conditions

* 10% Digestive problems

* 6% Asthma, Allergies

* 8% Hypertension & High Cholesterol

* 10% Skin problems, psoriasis, acne, weight loss, various

non life- threatening conditions.

-sep---------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 15:11:05 -0700

Bob <bobwms@...>

From: asonnen@... (Aleta Sonnenberg)

Subject: Fibromyalgia

Dear Bob,

Thank you for your timely reply. There is much good information

contained in the attachment.

I have a theory that addresses the root of the problem of

Fibromyalgia and why KT may help it. From the reading that I

have done in nutrition books, it seems that FM and CFS and MS

and maybe others stem from severe stress related disfunction of

the adrenal cortex. With this as the root problem, it stands to

reason that KT might be helping to restore the function of it

through increasing oxygen circulation, irradication of the

Candida and resulting toxins, providing protien, (in which the

diet has to be rich in an adrenal cortex slump) providing B

vitamins and vitamin C and helping in other ways of which I am

completely ignorant.

I am not a scientist, but it seems that so much done in FM is

just treating the symptoms rather than healing the ailment. If

the ailment is indeed, reduced adrenal gland function, then

could the KT thereby be healing it? Look at so many of the

symptoms that KT seems to alleviate: Allergies - treatable by

that annual cortizone shot. What is cortizone? A corticosteroid,

C-21 H-28 O-5 , used as a replacement in adrenal insufficiency

and in the treatment of various inflammatory, allergic and

neoplastic diseases! Bee sting allergies - How are they treated?

An epinephrine shot! Where is epinephrine produced? in the

adrenal glands! Grey hair - treatable by sufficient pantothenic

acid which is crucial to a fully functional adrenal gland. Does

KT heal the gland and/or does it provide pantothenic acid in the

B vitamins it is reputed to supply? You cannot get a non

producing gland to produce more by mere stimulation, such as by

the intake of coffee. Many fibromyalgia sufferers are unaffected

by coffee and get no increased energy or wakefulness from it. My

theory is that their adrenal glands cannot produce that effect

because of adrenal exhaustion. Hans Irion, who was then the

Director of the State-recognized Academy for Chemists in

Braunschweig says in his " Course for Druggist Specialty Schools "

(1944, Vol. 2, pg. 405): " By the intake of the drink described

as Teakwass, there happens a remarkable invigoration of the

body's entire glandular system. . . " If the KT heals the adrenal

glands then they can produce the necessary hormones for good

health and well being thereby obtaining a true increase of

energy.

Has any one studied if KT is an adrenocorticotrophic substance

(stimulating the adrenal cortex) or does it heal it allowing

fuller functioning as time progresses?

Colleen says, " This Is explainable on the basis that

Kombucha does not target a specific body organ but, rather, it

influences the entire organism positively by effecting a

stabilization of the metabolic situation and through its

detoxifying effect of its glucuronic acid. This leads in many

people to a heightened endogenic defense capacity against those

toxic influences and environmental stresses which inundate us

from many sides, resulting in the Invigoration of a damaged

cellular metabolism, and the restoration and firming tip of

one's well-being. " Has anyone tested Fibromyalgia patients for

the level of adrenocorticotrophic hormone (ACTH)? Would we find

these folks to be marginal or low in production of this?

Roche said, " One of the main reasons why Kombucha seems to be

efficacious against such a wide spectrum of diseases is that it

does not have any specific action on particular illnesses, but

rather its systemic detoxification of the whole body through

glucuronic acid has an overall beneficial effect that

invigorates the entire person. When all the toxins have been

successfully eliminated, the body is much more able to heal

itself. "

Just some thoughts from an FM suffering Graphic Designer.

Sincerely

Aleta Sonnenberg

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Bob - bobwms@...

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In a message dated 7/25/2009 12:02:05 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

blu_redneck@... writes:

Hi All! New here. My daughter has fibromyalgia and I was wondering if any

of you here with this disease have had any results with KT to help releive

the aches and pains? Thanks.

I too have FMS and feel that drinking Kombucha every day makes me feel

better. But this devil of a disease is different with everyone. So she

should start slowly with a couple of ounces at first and increase as is

tolerated. I did not, but had no problems whatsoever. I routinely drink 16 -

20

ounces per day. Even more in the hot weather. It is particularly important

for those with FMS to drink lots of water also. Be sure that she

continues to do so.

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