Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Mum's plea on autism Mar 26 2006 By Ian Robson, Sunday Sun The mother of an autistic child yesterday made an impassioned plea to parents to stop wasting their time speculating about how their children came to have the condition. Lesley was speaking after the Government confirmed that new cases reached an all-time high of 9170 last year. Experts disagree about the cause of the increase . . . twice the number diagnosed less than 10 years ago. But Lesley, whose 12-year-old son Toby is autistic, said it was more important for parents to live each day to the full instead of brooding She said: "We don't waste our time on the whys and the wherefores. "My advice is always to concentrate on the here and now. Don't dwell on the past or worry about the future. "I really don't know the causes as far as Toby is concerned, but I am not bothered about it. What I am more concerned about is to find ways to help him. "It's easy to worry about possible causes, but all that does is send you into an awful depression." Lesley, one of the Sunday Sun's Champions of the North, opened the Toby Trust, at Stannington, Northumberland, to provide help for parents and carers of young victims. The trust, which opened four years ago, is nationally recognised as a resource for families and professionals. More than 6000 children were diagnosed with autism last year, compared to half that number nine years ago. The number of new cases involving adults brought the figure to a record 9170. Lesley said: "It's true, there has been a very definite increase. It's not clear why. "It may be that the old `out of sight, out of mind', attitude has gone and that more people are now aware of autism." The National Autistic Society agreed the increase could be explained by better awareness and diagnostic skills. But Shattock, of the autism research unit at Sunderland University, disagrees. He believes environmental causes - including an obsession with cleanliness - are responsible. He said: "We are cleaner than we used to be and therefore our immune systems are not allowed to develop. "It's an abnormally clean environment and there is a price to pay. There are more allergies in children for the same reason." Mr Shattock believes pesticides in the environment are the main reason for more cases. But he believes that other factors, such as drugs, should share some of the blame. He said: "Drugs like beta-blockers and the contraceptive pill get into the water supply through urination and are not broken down by bacteria. "In addition, the way we eat food these days means we are not getting the vitamins and minerals we need to deal with toxic substances in the environment." He said the controversial MMR vaccine, for measles mumps and rubella, sometimes linked to autism, was only a factor in a small percentage of cases.http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/sundaysun/news/tm_objectid=16865699 & method=full & siteid=50081 & headline=mum-s-plea-on-autism-name_page.html#story_continue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Well I'm sure she is a wondeful woman and all that but there's no way I can just stop worrying about the future for my boys. I'm not struck by just forgetting about causation either, and her trust in autism awareness among todays GP's is admirable I'm sure, but there are a heck of a lot of parents out there who just cannot get a dx of autism and if they could how would that look on the indicence figures??? I actually think it was today's switched on autism aware GP's and paeds that made my son as profound as he is the least I expect is that they recognize the condition they have contributed to lol. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 In a message dated 26/03/2006 20:03:00 GMT Daylight Time, mark.grabiec@... writes: I'm all for accepting and loving what you have but sitting on your arse when there's something that you can do to improve your child's chances is not good parenting. It's denial. Ooh, that's better. Think I'll have that glass of cava now. >>>>oooh brilliantly put! I;m of booze and food now prepping for Tuesdays repeat colonoscopy - arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh I HATE PICOLAX Mandi x rushing.....................! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Hi "well from her photo it looks as if she is past childbearing age" Meeow ! Funniest thing I have read in days ! And I had my last child at forty- hnph so it must be funny. I would really hate to piss any of you guys off.......... Love Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Hi no -, not at all !!!!!!!!!! The fact that I found it hilarious obviously shows some unpleasant truth about my character - or reveals that when husband is away I drink too much wine, sit at the computer far too late and develop a bizarre sense of humour But I really did find it very funny after a pretty crappy day - so thanks even though you didn't mean it ! Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Bonkers. IF your child's autism was triggered you need to know what by in order to stand a chance of reversing the damage. And even if it does turn out to be too late for your child doesn't society want this NOT to happen to another generation of environmentally sensitive kids who don't NEED to have it triggered. Nah, just roll in the prozac and celebrate their (yet to be discovered) SBC savant differences. I'm all for accepting and loving what you have but sitting on your arse when there's something that you can do to improve your child's chances is not good parenting. It's denial. Ooh, that's better. Think I'll have that glass of cava now. > > Mum's plea on autism > Mar 26 2006 > By Ian Robson, Sunday Sun > > > > > The mother of an autistic child yesterday made an impassioned plea to > parents to stop wasting their time speculating about how their children came to > have the condition. > Lesley was speaking after the Government confirmed that new cases > reached an all-time high of 9170 last year. > Experts disagree about the cause of the increase . . . twice the number > diagnosed less than 10 years ago. > But Lesley, whose 12-year-old son Toby is autistic, said it was more > important for parents to live each day to the full instead of brooding > She said: " We don't waste our time on the whys and the wherefores. > > " My advice is always to concentrate on the here and now. Don't dwell on the > past or worry about the future. > > " I really don't know the causes as far as Toby is concerned, but I am not > bothered about it. What I am more concerned about is to find ways to help him. > > " It's easy to worry about possible causes, but all that does is send you > into an awful depression. " > > Lesley, one of the Sunday Sun's Champions of the North, opened the Toby > Trust, at Stannington, Northumberland, to provide help for parents and > carers of young victims. > > The trust, which opened four years ago, is nationally recognised as a > resource for families and professionals. > > More than 6000 children were diagnosed with autism last year, compared to > half that number nine years ago. The number of new cases involving adults > brought the figure to a record 9170. > > Lesley said: " It's true, there has been a very definite increase. It's not > clear why. > > " It may be that the old `out of sight, out of mind', attitude has gone and > that more people are now aware of autism. " > > The National Autistic Society agreed the increase could be explained by > better awareness and diagnostic skills. But Shattock, of the autism research > unit at Sunderland University, disagrees. > > He believes environmental causes - including an obsession with cleanliness - > are responsible. > > He said: " We are cleaner than we used to be and therefore our immune systems > are not allowed to develop. > > " It's an abnormally clean environment and there is a price to pay. There are > more allergies in children for the same reason. " > > Mr Shattock believes pesticides in the environment are the main reason for > more cases. > > But he believes that other factors, such as drugs, should share some of the > blame. > > He said: " Drugs like beta-blockers and the contraceptive pill get into the > water supply through urination and are not broken down by bacteria. > > " In addition, the way we eat food these days means we are not getting the > vitamins and minerals we need to deal with toxic substances in the > environment. " > > He said the controversial MMR vaccine, for measles mumps and rubella, > sometimes linked to autism, was only a factor in a small percentage of > cases._http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/sundaysun/news/tm_objectid= 16865699 & method=full & s > iteid=50081 & headline=mum-s-plea-on-autism- name_page.html#story_continue_ > (http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/sundaysun/news/tm_objectid=168656 99 & method=full > & siteid=50081 & headline=mum-s-plea-on-autism- name_page.html#story_continue) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Oh, poor Mandi! Happy Mother's Day, anyway. Margaret Re: Re: Mum's plea on autism In a message dated 26/03/2006 20:03:00 GMT Daylight Time, mark.grabiec@... writes: I'm all for accepting and loving what you have but sitting on your arse when there's something that you can do to improve your child's chances is not good parenting. It's denial. Ooh, that's better. Think I'll have that glass of cava now. >>>>oooh brilliantly put! I;m of booze and food now prepping for Tuesdays repeat colonoscopy - arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh I HATE PICOLAX Mandi x rushing.....................!__________ NOD32 1.1458 (20060324) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Well, from her photo it looks like she may be past childbearing years and dosent have to worry about having another autistic child. I wonder if she has daughters who may have autistic children? Will she want to know if there was something she could have done to help them to prevent autistic offspring, should the worst happen. Sheesh, what a maroon. Whose pocket is she in? I wonder whether this woman has the same opinion regarding domestic violence or cleft palates. Why are parents of autistic children constantly " encouraged " to accept their children's " condition " . I dont know how many times i have gotten the " rolling eyes " from others when i say i intend to recover my child. I hope she is reading this page and if so, Madam, what exactly is your agenda? Obviously you think that parents like us are wasting our and our children's time and that you are a more philosophical sort - pulhease, cut the crap and refrain from using the media to put off parents trying to help their kids. If your child was 2 or 3 at this present moment, you would undoubtedly be doing what we are doing. Time has jaded you and for that I feel truly sorry. Things have changed so much in the past 10 years. You have done a disservice to parents like us who work tirelessly at loving our children. There is no love greater than trying to recover a child from autism. Yep i could go on and on.... > > > In a message dated 26/03/2006 20:03:00 GMT Daylight Time, > mark.grabiec@... writes: > > I'm all for accepting and loving what you have but > sitting on your arse when there's something that you can do to > improve your child's chances is not good parenting. It's denial. > > Ooh, that's better. Think I'll have that glass of cava now. > > > > >>>>oooh brilliantly put! I;m of booze and food now prepping for Tuesdays > repeat colonoscopy - arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh I HATE PICOLAX > > Mandi x rushing.....................! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Oh, i didnt realise, i didnt intend to be snotty, just caustic. - > > Hi > " well from her photo it looks as if she is past childbearing age " > Meeow ! > Funniest thing I have read in days ! > And I had my last child at forty- hnph so it must be funny. > > I would really hate to piss any of you guys off.......... > Love > Deborah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 The better diagnosis theory always makes me laugh...like doctor's, teachers and parents simply overlooked no language and stim behavior. Hey, so where are all the adult autisitics now??? This woman has her head in the clouds. The here and now involves a rescue operation not throwing my hands in the air and saying "Oh well....". Grrrrrh Sirr <mark.grabiec@...> wrote: Bonkers. IF your child's autism was triggered you need to know what by in order to stand a chance of reversing the damage. And even if it does turn out to be too late for your child doesn't society want this NOT to happen to another generation of environmentally sensitive kids who don't NEED to have it triggered. Nah, just roll in the prozac and celebrate their (yet to be discovered) SBC savant differences. I'm all for accepting and loving what you have but sitting on your arse when there's something that you can do to improve your child's chances is not good parenting. It's denial. Ooh, that's better. Think I'll have that glass of cava now.>> Mum's plea on autism > Mar 26 2006> By Ian Robson, Sunday Sun> > > > > The mother of an autistic child yesterday made an impassioned plea to > parents to stop wasting their time speculating about how their children came to > have the condition. > Lesley was speaking after the Government confirmed that new cases > reached an all-time high of 9170 last year. > Experts disagree about the cause of the increase . . . twice the number > diagnosed less than 10 years ago. > But Lesley, whose 12-year-old son Toby is autistic, said it was more > important for parents to live each day to the full instead of brooding > She said: "We don't waste our time on the whys and the wherefores. > > "My advice is always to concentrate on the here and now. Don't dwell on the > past or worry about the future. > > "I really don't know the causes as far as Toby is concerned, but I am not > bothered about it. What I am more concerned about is to find ways to help him. > > "It's easy to worry about possible causes, but all that does is send you > into an awful depression." > > Lesley, one of the Sunday Sun's Champions of the North, opened the Toby > Trust, at Stannington, Northumberland, to provide help for parents and > carers of young victims. > > The trust, which opened four years ago, is nationally recognised as a > resource for families and professionals. > > More than 6000 children were diagnosed with autism last year, compared to > half that number nine years ago. The number of new cases involving adults > brought the figure to a record 9170. > > Lesley said: "It's true, there has been a very definite increase. It's not > clear why. > > "It may be that the old `out of sight, out of mind', attitude has gone and > that more people are now aware of autism." > > The National Autistic Society agreed the increase could be explained by > better awareness and diagnostic skills. But Shattock, of the autism research > unit at Sunderland University, disagrees. > > He believes environmental causes - including an obsession with cleanliness - > are responsible. > > He said: "We are cleaner than we used to be and therefore our immune systems > are not allowed to develop. > > "It's an abnormally clean environment and there is a price to pay. There are > more allergies in children for the same reason." > > Mr Shattock believes pesticides in the environment are the main reason for > more cases. > > But he believes that other factors, such as drugs, should share some of the > blame. > > He said: "Drugs like beta-blockers and the contraceptive pill get into the > water supply through urination and are not broken down by bacteria. > > "In addition, the way we eat food these days means we are not getting the > vitamins and minerals we need to deal with toxic substances in the > environment." > > He said the controversial MMR vaccine, for measles mumps and rubella, > sometimes linked to autism, was only a factor in a small percentage of > cases._http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/sundaysun/news/tm_objectid=16865699 & method=full & s> iteid=50081 & headline=mum-s-plea-on-autism-name_page.html#story_continue_ > (http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/sundaysun/news/tm_objectid=16865699 & method=full> & siteid=50081 & headline=mum-s-plea-on-autism-name_page.html#story_continue)> Beauvais Mom to , who had 276X the EPA allowable amount of Mercury in his infant vaccines. ASD_solutions @ groups Helping a generation of Mercury damaged children recover, one step at a time. There is Hope. www.generationrescue.org New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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