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I think Caroline makes a very good suggestion. I know someone whose

disabled child is due to move to secondary school and the LEA say

adaptations to the school would cost £300,000 for the one child. She

says she doesn't care if it costs £2,000,000! (Not our LEA) It might

be worth speaking ti the Inclusion partnership -some very stroppt

people there.

Margaret

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>

> Hi All

>

> Have been reading all this tribunal stuff with horror bordering on

revulsion

> at the despicable practices out there... God its horrifying, we do

have a

> different system in Scotland but not very sure how that works

either.

>

> Vicky, this situation you are in is just total insanity... I mean,

does

> actually NOT have 1:1 at all throughout his school day? Good god,

what is

> going on there?

>

> So would you consider asking for him to go to mainstream instead,

it is your

> right and maybe you just might get for him a bit more individual

attention,

> after listening to this nightmare you ahve lived for all these

years with

> tribunals and stuff it surely could not be much worse.

>

> I am so horrified, it beggars belief, Sally what about getting

together and

> doing some research/writing on the subject??

>

> Love Caroline

> xx

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My son has been in an SLD school from the age of 2 1/2, he's now over 7

and never had a 1:1 to date. (it's now in his new Statement though.)

Margaret

> Vicky this is total claptrap... I cannot believe that anyone who had

any

> interest in a childs education that has without a doubt extra support

needs can

> say, he does not need any extra 1:1 and mighth become dependent on

this, COME

> on... Who are these people??

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Is that verbatim note? At my tribunal someone from the school gave

evidence -- completely misleading in a similar way but I wasn't alert

enough to challenge it. Will the lea have a witness from the school

that you can question?

Special schools prove their value to the lea and stay open by taking in

children who would be more expensive in mainstream. So they are lying

to protect their jobs. But they are not used to it.

The other point that I only worked out afterwards is that cheapness is

not efficiency ie if something is cheap but not effective it may be

less efficient than something that costs more. So if you have proof of

effectiveness then you could ask them to demonstrate theirs.

Sally

Sass and Rem wrote:

I have

now been to see the new unit on offer to Tom twice and spoken to the

teacher-in-charge on the phone too. I cannot believe the number of

times she

has changed her mind or twisted the truth.

Part of our conversation

HER ‘The OT comes in because some

children have OT on their statement and when she is here she gives us

lots of

ideas for the other children. It helps us to do really good dyspraxia

and brain

gym exercises with the children on a daily basis. She’s a lovely person

and we have a great relationship.’

ME ‘how often does she come?’

HER ‘not very often’

ME ‘how often exactly?’

HER ‘never’

ME ‘She’s never been to your

school?’

HER ‘No but she’s available to

give advice on the phone whenever we want it.’

I kid you not!!!!!!!!

That was just one example of truth

massaging from my visits.

Mmmm, can’t wait to get Tom in there

….. NOT!!!

Sara

 

 

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Caroline

he has no one to one at all during the day, and at our recent tribunal

our own

ed psyche insisted he didn't need one!

People

be careful if going to tribunal that your "team" say what you

actually want them to say.

Apparently

school and LEA are concerned he may become too dependent on one to one,

I know

if it wasn't so serious and all that.

    Vicky

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Different LEA's have different funding bands. It depends on your particular LEA as they are all different. With over 180 LEAS it makes it a beauracratic nightmare! On the LEA website you should be able to download there SEN policy. In that it should explain the funding etc Best of luck SaraSara E Servio "Sucess is loving life and daring to live it" Maya Angelou

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Dear Vicky,

I was thinking of parents for Inclusion:

http://www.parentsforinclusion.org/pihomepage.htm

They are ideologically totally opposed to any child ever being in

special school - some of their activists are very physically disabled

but with no intellectual difficulties and may really have no idea

what

life feels like for someone with autism and why inclusion poses

particular difficulty for a child with autism, but they are powerful

and well-connected. I must

say Henry's brief part-time period attending the local mainstream

school coincided with his first learning anything much ever and I

believe this was down his his having a fantastic 1:1 in the

mainstream

school who didn't have all the baggage of special school low

expectations.

Margaret

>

> I kind of like the idea as well Margaret, Caroline not just a

pretty

face eh?

> Who are these inclusion people, have never met them, do all LEA's

have them?

> Would really set the cat among the pigeons.

> Vicky

>

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Sally my barrister didn't challenge anything not one thing! He let the school and LEA say pretty much what they wanted however fictional.

We challenged as many points as we could but our "team" challenged nothing.

I am now complaining about how our entire case was handled and they are insisting tribunal is completely different from normal courts in that you dont conduct them in that challenging manner, and infact should say good things about the school in order to look credible.

My people seem to think we just pick it all up at appeal which would be somewhere in the region of another 11k and then you have to go back to tribunal which surely would be another 20k or thereabouts, who exactly is benefiting from all this?

Vicky

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 Kind

of related:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6279001.stm

SARA

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