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Dear Green,

Your post on body use of 03 and 02 most educational and this must explain why

03 has so much therapeutic value for most of the difficult to treat

illnesses.

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Now, Vilik, this is the first time I've had the opportunity to respond to

you -- and I'm not finding fault, I'm just attempting to verify your

advice, and I'm curious about what you've said. You see, my lady is a

Registered Nurse and, in Hospital, they put a little instrument on the end

of the finger which reads the blood oxygen. If the Doctor orders oxygen,

they take the little clear tube coming from the medical grade oxygen supply

on the wall and place it into the patient's nose and regulate the flow of

oxygen with a knob on the flow valve. After several hours, they check the

B/O and, if it's okay, they then take the tube away. Also, when they have

an unborn baby in oxygen distress, they turn the flow way up high. The Mom

gets the maximun amount and the baby really benefits. They verify this by

checking the fetal monitor to see the heartbeat as it comes back up. Now, I

wish you'd go back to your people with this info and verify what you were

told so we can get the really straight scoop on this part of my question,

please, because this answer is really important to me. Obie.

Homozone -Vs- Direct Oxygen

>

> " OBIE " <obie2@...> wrote:

>

>

> I've been reading the details at homozon.ebz.com and came to wonder if

just

> plain oxygen from a tank and into the nose through those little clear

tubes

> at night as we sleep wouldn't be just as effective as Homozon; maybe more.

> It sure wouldn't have the side effects; in fact, has no side effects, I

> don't believe. I think the same could be said for Ozone, probably.

Obie.

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~

> Oh Obie...I think I actually may be able to answer this one!

>

> Just plain O2 breathed in from a canister actually LOWERS blood oxygen.

> Ray Peat first told me this a few years ago, and I just interestingly

> enought got an email from someone who had that experience, which

> confirms it.

>

> Ozone therapy and homozone work with O3...and it is that extra number

> that does the work.

>

> Hope this helps...

>

> ~^^V^^~

>

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" OBIE " <obie2@...> wrote:

I've been reading the details at homozon.ebz.com and came to wonder if just

plain oxygen from a tank and into the nose through those little clear tubes

at night as we sleep wouldn't be just as effective as Homozon; maybe more.

It sure wouldn't have the side effects; in fact, has no side effects, I

don't believe. I think the same could be said for Ozone, probably. Obie.

~~~~~~~~~~~

Oh Obie...I think I actually may be able to answer this one!

Just plain O2 breathed in from a canister actually LOWERS blood oxygen.

Ray Peat first told me this a few years ago, and I just interestingly

enought got an email from someone who had that experience, which

confirms it.

Ozone therapy and homozone work with O3...and it is that extra number

that does the work.

Hope this helps...

~^^V^^~

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Obie, Vilik and All,

About the relative effctiveness of ozone (O3) and oxygen (O2) for

therapeutic purposes:

It's my understanding through several years of association with

Dr. Freibott (a recognized world authority on oxidative chemistry

and oxygen therapy), that O1 (singlet oxygen) is the only form of

oxygen that the body uses, and that the body must convert

atmospheric oxygen from O2 to O1 at the cellular level before the

oxygen is used in the body's metabolism, and that this process

consumes energy and constitutes a limiting factor on oxygen

availability to the body.

Ozone (O3, or O2O) provides the body with a source of oxygen

which is already in the form the body uses, and doesn't require

the body to expend energy to convert it to that form.

Therefore, products which provide oxygen to the body in that form

are more effective than atmospheric oxygen (O2) at enabling the

body to heal from conditions brought about through impairment

of oxygen availability or metabolism, which, it seems, is most

ailments -- it is hard to find any health impairment which isn't

benefiicially treated by oxygen therapy -- a truly wide-spectrum

therapy with almost nonexistent harmful side effects.

So, the reason nascent or singlet oxygen, which is what you're

getting with ozone, is so much more effective therapeutically than

atmospheric oxygen is -- either breathed from the atmosphere

or from an oxygen concentrator or medical oxygen tank -- is that

it isn't subjected to the limitation of having to be converted by the

body from O2 to O1 in order to be used in the body's metabolism.

A dose of Homozon, say, loads the blood right up with ready-made

O1, whereas breathing medical oxygen all night, while beneficial,

never achieves the same levels of O1 availability to the body's cells.

Green

~^~^~^~^

OBIE wrote:

Now, Vilik, this is the first time I've had the opportunity to respond to

you -- and I'm not finding fault, I'm just attempting to verify your

advice, and I'm curious about what you've said. You see, my lady is a

Registered Nurse and, in Hospital, they put a little instrument on the end

of the finger which reads the blood oxygen. If the Doctor orders oxygen,

they take the little clear tube coming from the medical grade oxygen supply

on the wall and place it into the patient's nose and regulate the flow of

oxygen with a knob on the flow valve. After several hours, they check the

B/O and, if it's okay, they then take the tube away. Also, when they have

an unborn baby in oxygen distress, they turn the flow way up high. The Mom

gets the maximun amount and the baby really benefits. They verify this by

checking the fetal monitor to see the heartbeat as it comes back up. Now, I

wish you'd go back to your people with this info and verify what you were

told so we can get the really straight scoop on this part of my question,

please, because this answer is really important to me. Obie.

Homozone -Vs- Direct Oxygen

>

> " OBIE " <obie2@...> wrote:

>

>

> I've been reading the details at homozon.ebz.com and came to wonder if

just

> plain oxygen from a tank and into the nose through those little clear

tubes

> at night as we sleep wouldn't be just as effective as Homozon; maybe more.

> It sure wouldn't have the side effects; in fact, has no side effects, I

> don't believe. I think the same could be said for Ozone, probably.

Obie.

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~

> Oh Obie...I think I actually may be able to answer this one!

>

> Just plain O2 breathed in from a canister actually LOWERS blood oxygen.

> Ray Peat first told me this a few years ago, and I just interestingly

> enought got an email from someone who had that experience, which

> confirms it.

>

> Ozone therapy and homozone work with O3...and it is that extra number

> that does the work.

>

> Hope this helps...

>

> ~^^V^^~

>

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Donna, I belive Homozon is an oxygenater, the bowel cleaning is just an added

benifit!

Homozone -Vs- Direct Oxygen

I've been reading the details at homozon.ebz.com and came to wonder if

just plain oxygen from a tank and into the nose through those little clear tubes

at night as we sleep wouldn't be just as effective as Homozon; maybe more. It

sure wouldn't have the side effects; in fact, has no side effects, I don't

believe. I think the same could be said for Ozone, probably. Obie.

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Obie,

I would agree with both Vilik & green, that breathing O2 won't do the

same as Homozon or ozone. But, there is another thing they didn't

mention: Ozone in the body will destroy ANY pathogen it encounters or

bind with any toxin, and when the blood is clean, it will then clean the

lymph, followed by the cells.

No form of simply breathing O2 will clean old toxins from cells this

way, because ozone is NOT an oxygen therapy! This is a common

misunderstanding. Ozone is an electro-therapy! It is its electrical

charge that holds the extra O1 singlet to the O2, and it gives up this

charge when that O1 singlet makes a reaction. The proof that ozone is

different is that oxygen therapies are used as a control group in most

ozone studies!

So, no, there is no circumstance where simply breathing O2 will perform

the same as Homozon or ozone!

jim :)

green1 wrote:

>

> Obie, Vilik and All,

>

> About the relative effctiveness of ozone (O3) and oxygen (O2) for

> therapeutic purposes:

>

> It's my understanding through several years of association with

> Dr. Freibott (a recognized world authority on oxidative chemistry

> and oxygen therapy), that O1 (singlet oxygen) is the only form of

> oxygen that the body uses, and that the body must convert

> atmospheric oxygen from O2 to O1 at the cellular level before the

> oxygen is used in the body's metabolism, and that this process

> consumes energy and constitutes a limiting factor on oxygen

> availability to the body.

>

> Ozone (O3, or O2O) provides the body with a source of oxygen

> which is already in the form the body uses, and doesn't require

> the body to expend energy to convert it to that form.

>

> Therefore, products which provide oxygen to the body in that form

> are more effective than atmospheric oxygen (O2) at enabling the

> body to heal from conditions brought about through impairment

> of oxygen availability or metabolism, which, it seems, is most

> ailments -- it is hard to find any health impairment which isn't

> benefiicially treated by oxygen therapy -- a truly wide-spectrum

> therapy with almost nonexistent harmful side effects.

>

> So, the reason nascent or singlet oxygen, which is what you're

> getting with ozone, is so much more effective therapeutically than

> atmospheric oxygen is -- either breathed from the atmosphere

> or from an oxygen concentrator or medical oxygen tank -- is that

> it isn't subjected to the limitation of having to be converted by the

> body from O2 to O1 in order to be used in the body's metabolism.

>

> A dose of Homozon, say, loads the blood right up with ready-made

> O1, whereas breathing medical oxygen all night, while beneficial,

> never achieves the same levels of O1 availability to the body's cells.

>

> Green

>

> ~^~^~^~^

>

> OBIE wrote:

>

> Now, Vilik, this is the first time I've had the opportunity to respond to

> you -- and I'm not finding fault, I'm just attempting to verify your

> advice, and I'm curious about what you've said. You see, my lady is a

> Registered Nurse and, in Hospital, they put a little instrument on the end

> of the finger which reads the blood oxygen. If the Doctor orders oxygen,

> they take the little clear tube coming from the medical grade oxygen supply

> on the wall and place it into the patient's nose and regulate the flow of

> oxygen with a knob on the flow valve. After several hours, they check the

> B/O and, if it's okay, they then take the tube away. Also, when they have

> an unborn baby in oxygen distress, they turn the flow way up high. The Mom

> gets the maximun amount and the baby really benefits. They verify this by

> checking the fetal monitor to see the heartbeat as it comes back up. Now, I

> wish you'd go back to your people with this info and verify what you were

> told so we can get the really straight scoop on this part of my question,

> please, because this answer is really important to me. Obie.

>

> Homozone -Vs- Direct Oxygen

>

> >

> > " OBIE " <obie2@...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > I've been reading the details at homozon.ebz.com and came to wonder if

> just

> > plain oxygen from a tank and into the nose through those little clear

> tubes

> > at night as we sleep wouldn't be just as effective as Homozon; maybe more.

> > It sure wouldn't have the side effects; in fact, has no side effects, I

> > don't believe. I think the same could be said for Ozone, probably.

> Obie.

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~

> > Oh Obie...I think I actually may be able to answer this one!

> >

> > Just plain O2 breathed in from a canister actually LOWERS blood oxygen.

> > Ray Peat first told me this a few years ago, and I just interestingly

> > enought got an email from someone who had that experience, which

> > confirms it.

> >

> > Ozone therapy and homozone work with O3...and it is that extra number

> > that does the work.

> >

> > Hope this helps...

> >

> > ~^^V^^~

> >

>

>

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Hey Charlie,

Yes, I know that it is an oxygenator, but there are many other ways to get

oxygen into the system. The whole point of doing homozon is to clean the bowel

while oxygenating the system. If I just want oxygen in my system I will use Vit

O and not have to deal with the bathroom heroics of Homozon. Smile. It is also

a candida killer and parasite killer and bad bacteria killer etc.

My only point was that, if you are just wanting to increase oxygen in the system

there are many more pleasant ways than homozon to do it. For the people that

I know who do homozon, the bowel cleaning is the main reason they take it.

xox Donna

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Donna, I belive Homozon is an oxygenater, the bowel cleaning is just an

added benifit!

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I love this information. Helps me to know why homozon is so wonderful for the

whole system.

Thanks,

Donna

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Obie,

I would agree with both Vilik & green, that breathing O2 won't do the

same as Homozon or ozone. But, there is another thing they didn't

mention: Ozone in the body will destroy ANY pathogen it encounters or

bind with any toxin, and when the blood is clean, it will then clean the

lymph, followed by the cells.

No form of simply breathing O2 will clean old toxins from cells this

way, because ozone is NOT an oxygen therapy! This is a common

misunderstanding. Ozone is an electro-therapy! It is its electrical

charge that holds the extra O1 singlet to the O2, and it gives up this

charge when that O1 singlet makes a reaction. The proof that ozone is

different is that oxygen therapies are used as a control group in most

ozone studies!

So, no, there is no circumstance where simply breathing O2 will perform

the same as Homozon or ozone!

jim :)

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What about breathing ozone directly with the Vapozone? That would induce

the ozone O3 directly into the lungs and therefore directly saturating the

blood. Comments?

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Donna,

It's why I love this list. Some of us have been here for 2-1/2 years,

like Vilik & Saul & & Green & so many others. And, I still read

new things in their posts all the time. I also notice where all of us

have learned from others of us, so that now many of our minds seem to

have settled on what we believe works, and is real.

But, I caution all newcomers not to trust any of us just because we seem

to be some kind of authority, and some of us agree! EVERYONE should be

the senior partner in ALL decisions regarding their own health! This

means that YOU will HAVE to LEARN what means what regarding your own

health.

As many listmembers have learned, this task is almost a no-brainer. Just

read the posts about the disorders you are interested in, listen to ALL

sides, and make up YOUR OWN mind! It's legal in all 50 states! THAT is

freedom! According to the AMA, every year 3 million people are injured

and 1/3 million are killed by properly prescribed medicines or

doctor-caused incidents. And, it doesn't stop there. (But, I will,

because that is bad enough!)

In contrast, no one dies from naturopathic treatments every year.

Allopaths claim many people die because they go to quack treatment from

alternative practitioners. The truth is that, for the most part, the

folks with terminal diseases that go to alternative practitioners are

the ones whom allopathic medicine has given up on!!! They were sent home

to die and in many cases alternative practitioners have saved their

lives! As it should be! Humans striving to help humans and others!

The Creator of Existence did NOT endow ONLY MD's with intelligence. In

fact, in my own lifetime, I have met MANY MD's with a

cool-room-temperature IQ and bad judgment! I have also met many

lifesaving healers in allopathic garb! And, let's not ever forget that!

They saved my life twice, in emergency situations.---

But, if you don't have a broken leg, weren't in a car wreck, and haven't

been knifed or shot, then you have to be crazy to go to a doctor or a

hospital! Your odds for survival go down when you do -- according to the

AMA!

And, in all this time, I have only seen one subject go by on this list

that no one answered, or seemed to know anything about. And, that may

have been only because the right person didn't read mail that day, or

their HD crashed.

Usually, anything people bring up gets dealt with in a normally

competent manner. THAT's why I love this list! I am only moderator by

accident of fate. From day one I have looked forward to handing this

list over to someone else who understands controlled anarchy.

Someday....

BTW, since I am not reading all of the mail lately, I invite any

listmember to forward to me anything they think I should pay attention

to. I'll do what needs doing, but it is spring, and there is a woman on

my mind. :):):)

jim :)

Donna wrote:

>

> I love this information. Helps me to know why homozon is so wonderful for the

whole system.

>

> Thanks,

> Donna

>

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Hi Donna,

I take Homozon every day And it no longer causes the bathroom drama for me! It

took about three months for it to stop. Now I just feel invigorated when I take

it! I believe that if you don't get the colon clean you are wasting your time or

just making other people a lot of money. If you are going to do it , do it

right!

XOXO back at yah!!

Charlie XO{hehe}

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Donna, I belive Homozon is an oxygenater, the bowel cleaning is just an

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<<What about breathing ozone directly with the Vapozone? That would induce

the ozone O3 directly into the lungs and therefore directly saturating the

blood. Comments?

Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph>>

Hi Ben;

That's what they do in Cuba in the trauma ward. It dramatically increases

oxygenation right now, and can cure a lung infection very quickly.

BUT you can only give a tiny shot of ozone with the oxygen because it is

corrosive.

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Donna,

You are mistaken that Homozon is primarily a bowel cleanser. It is

primarily an oxygenator, and the best consumable source available,

according to Dr. Friebott. Yes, I know he owns the company, but he also

tests every oxygenating product on the market for the amount of O2 it

gets in the blood, and he says Homozon is the best. That is why he

bought the company.

It does clean bowels and everything else, eventually, but it is an

oxygenator. And, the BM's associated with Homozon use are only in the

first few months.

jim :)

Donna wrote:

>

> Hey Charlie,

>

> Yes, I know that it is an oxygenator, but there are many other ways to get

oxygen into the system. The whole point of doing homozon is to clean the bowel

while oxygenating the system. If I just want oxygen in my system I will use Vit

O and not have to deal with the bathroom heroics of Homozon. Smile. It is also

a candida killer and parasite killer and bad bacteria killer etc.

>

> My only point was that, if you are just wanting to increase oxygen in the

system there are many more pleasant ways than homozon to do it. For the

people that I know who do homozon, the bowel cleaning is the main reason they

take it.

>

> xox Donna

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Yes, Jim I am beginning to understand that. And the thing about the bowel

cleansing effect only lasting a few months. . .Hum. Dr. Freibotts un-wife has

been on it for years and still has loose bowels. She is taking 5 tsp a day. I

guess it depends on the amount you take. I only take two tsp a day and still

get a loose bowel from it. But it does seem to take more to get that effect.

In the beginning only 1/4 tsp would result in looseness.

So do you do homozon daily, And if yes, how long have you been taking it and

how much do yo take and etc.

I have only been on it a few months and I thought the bowel cleansing effect was

the main function of it. Apparently not, from what you posted last week and

then the below post of yours.

Donna

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Donna,

You are mistaken that Homozon is primarily a bowel cleanser. It is

primarily an oxygenator, and the best consumable source available,

according to Dr. Friebott. Yes, I know he owns the company, but he also

tests every oxygenating product on the market for the amount of O2 it

gets in the blood, and he says Homozon is the best. That is why he

bought the company.

It does clean bowels and everything else, eventually, but it is an

oxygenator. And, the BM's associated with Homozon use are only in the

first few months.

jim :)

Donna wrote:

>

> Hey Charlie,

>

> Yes, I know that it is an oxygenator, but there are many other ways to

get oxygen into the system. The whole point of doing homozon is to clean the

bowel while oxygenating the system. If I just want oxygen in my system I will

use Vit O and not have to deal with the bathroom heroics of Homozon. Smile. It

is also a candida killer and parasite killer and bad bacteria killer etc.

>

> My only point was that, if you are just wanting to increase oxygen in the

system there are many more pleasant ways than homozon to do it. For the

people that I know who do homozon, the bowel cleaning is the main reason they

take it.

>

> xox Donna

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Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take

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