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Just summoning the strength to sit here for a few minutes in hopes of recording

my experience. Thanks to all who responded to my plea for help with vertigo.

Last night I awoke with another episode, at exactly the same time as the

previous one, 2:45 a.m. I'd had a good day, with no symptoms--I'd gone for a

walk, done light housework, cooked breakfast and dinner, and spent the day

working in my studio (I'm a painter). As I was cleaning up the kitchen after

dinner I began to feel a little woozy and weak. I was washing out my paint

brushes and thought " I just have to finish this, I can make it, then I'll lie

down and this will go away. " But it didn't go away. I just kept feeling weaker

and weaker. I went to bed and went to sleep easily around 10:00. At 2:45 I

awoke. I knew instantly I was in trouble. I was weak, felt like jello, no

strength in my legs. And I had a headache, which was a new symptom. This time

I knew better than to jump out of bed and head for the bathroom. I lay there

and simply observed my body, focusing on not panicking. I was shivering

uncontrollably, as though I were freezing, but I wasn't really cold. My face

felt like it was on fire. Even now, many hours later, my face is still red. My

heart was pounding, but that could have been from fear. I managed to get up and

go to the bathroom only by holding onto the walls to steady myself. It wasn't a

room-spinning dizziness, milder than that, but enough to make me very cautious.

The weakness was the scariest part.

I decided this a.m. to see a doctor, fearing this would happen again on the

weekend and that it could be serious. I was checked out by a local doctor--the

one I'd seen on Wednesday was out of town and I felt I needed someone nearby in

case this turned out to be an emergency situation. He did a tilt-table test and

said I didn't have low blood pressure. He felt the dizziness might be from

congestion in my ears and gave me a prescription (of course) for a decongestant,

and some samples of an antihistamine. (I didn't use either of them). An EKG

was normal. He said he felt this was probably a transient viral episode, but

that if it isn't and the symptoms return (that's a laugh--they haven't left yet)

I was looking at hospitalization and a long neurological work-up. I told him

I'd have to be on my deathbed to submit to that, and even then I'd think twice.

After 17 years and enough work-ups to stun an elephant, I know what they have to

offer me--even today he told me the most prevalent symptom in CFS is

depression--I'm tired of explaining that I'm not depressed.

So that's the latest and if anyone has anything to add to previous

observations/recommendations, I'll be watching for your posts. Meanwhile, I

have some questions about what's been suggested so far. Sharon, you suggested

using a brand called Standard Process and said I should be able to find a

practitioner in my area who can provide this. What kind of practitioner are you

suggesting? And btw, does anyone know anyone who might be able to provide truly

useful help of some kind to someone in my situation--I live within driving

distance of polis, Washington D.C. and Baltimore.

And Jim, you suggested Dr. Schulze's cayenne. I have his catalog and it sounds

like a fantastic product, but I've been having such problems with my digestion

since I started deparasitizing, never before that. I figured cayenne would just

about finish me off. I know the benefits are great, but how do I get it past my

stomach? Even Dr. Schulze says it's really, really hot. It sounds like all the

benefits would be just great for me, but I don't know how to get it down. Am I

wrong in assuming it's going to be hot on the stomach? (I'm originally from

Louisiana, so it's not like I'm a stranger to spicy food--it's just that there's

lately been a problem.)

As to the 3 to 5 glasses of apple cider vinegar & honey daily--do you mean

straight vinegar, or diluted, and in what proportions and how many ounces? I

use Bragg's apple cider vinegar, so I always have it on hand, and am ready to

begin if I know how to fix it.

I think that's about it. I'd better go lie down now. Thanks, everybody. Your

support and information is so helpful.

Peggy

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Hi Peggy,

One thing jumped out at me--------what about an allergy to the materials

you use in your studio?

I'm sure you " don't want to hear it " , I wouldn't either. But it almost

seems too obvious!

there are others on this list who can 'lead' you through those

possibilities far better than I.

BTW, hypofunctioning adrenals are part of the allergy picture---always.

SP products are almost always sold by alternative health practitioners,

chiropractors, for instance.

The home office for SP is 800-848-5061 and they can tell you who's

available in your area. You might even be able to place an order with

them directly, not sure. If they want to know who your practitioner is,

tell them Sharon sey.

I'll bet Jim Lambert knows some good practitioners in the areas you

mentioned.

Keep us posted!

Sharon

Tim and/or Peggy Walters wrote:

>

> Just summoning the strength to sit here for a few minutes in hopes of

recording my experience. Thanks to all who responded to my plea for help with

vertigo. Last night I awoke with another episode, at exactly the same time as

the previous one, 2:45 a.m. I'd had a good day, with no symptoms--I'd gone for

a walk, done light housework, cooked breakfast and dinner, and spent the day

working in my studio (I'm a painter). As I was cleaning up the kitchen after

dinner I began to feel a little woozy and weak. I was washing out my paint

brushes and thought " I just have to finish this, I can make it, then I'll lie

down and this will go away. " But it didn't go away. I just kept feeling weaker

and weaker. I went to bed and went to sleep easily around 10:00. At 2:45 I

awoke. I knew instantly I was in trouble. I was weak, felt like jello, no

strength in my legs. And I had a headache, which was a new symptom. This time

I knew better than to jump out of bed and head for the bathroom.

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Hi Sharon, What jumped out at you had just been called to my attention by

another group member who wrote to me privately. You're right--there's nothing

I'd rather hear less. I live to paint. But you're also right, it's blindingly

obvious that this might be the problem. I hadn't even thought of it. I've been

out of my studio since December because of being so ill. After months of

parasite cleansing, I finally had enough energy to return to work. Tuesday

night when I had the first attack I'd spent the day in my studio. I was out of

the studio all day Wednesday from illness, but felt fine on Thursday and

returned to work. I promptly had another spell on Thursday night. Oh no! Say

it isn't so. What on earth will I do? There must be some solution besides

giving up my vocation and my passion for art. Help, help, help!

Peggy

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Dear Peggy,

Oh My!!

There are about as many theories, methods, 'cures' for allergies as

there are stars in the sky.

I am a researcher more than a practitioner. Because of personal/family

health issues I have focused mostly of late on metabolic balancing. My

son was my 'allergic' child, seasonally in misery, and subject to

reactions to chemicals. When he was in his sr yr of high school I had

learned enough to know that I needed to change the 'field' so that he

could no longer have a body chemistry that would react.

This was successfully accomplished within the course of one year.

Basically, I had learned (this was in the early 80s) that a body pH that

was too alkaline would result in a body that was susceptible to allergic

reaction. I discovered the beginnings of metabolic typing and that my

son, and almost every allergic type person was parasympathetic dominant

(this is one side of the autonomic nervous system). People who are

sympathetic dominant (more acidic) never have allergies! But they are

the ones susceptible to diabetes, cancer and other serious problems.

" Parasymps " can live a lot longer but the quality of life may not be

worth it!

Parasymps (I am one) tend to lo bp, hypoglycemia, allergies, any problem

ending with " itis " .

That's a capsulated overview, for sure.

sounds like your system has been dealt some major blows and is in a

weakened state, thus susceptible to many chemicals that a stronger body

would take in stride.

you will most likely receive many different ideas/theories from our

wonderful list buddies, and perhaps one theory more than others will

resonate with you the most.

I can point you to several websites that deal with metabolic balancing,

should you want to pursue this way of healing/strengthening your body

and it's chemistry. No matter what, you will end up with 'homework'

(reading) to do!

I would be a lot more comfortable knowing that you could follow a

'system' that has a successful history, rather than piecemeal ideas, as

wonderful as each might sound.

I still, privately, take a somewhat 'jaundiced' view of this emphasis on

cleansing, deparasitizing, especially for one in your weakened

condition. I feel the body, our livers, and other organs are a lot more

resilient than folks think. But when a chemistry has gotten really

whacked out it's time to find out where the imbalances are.

Oh, forgot to mention that parasymps are also characterized by weak

adrenals, very much so. I don't know how much anatomical knoweledge you

may have, but the vagus nerve is the parasympathetic controller and it

runs the length of the 'trunk'---which is why chiropractic can

frequently help as impinged nerves are connected to the vagus (central)

nerve. If the nerves leading to the lungs, for instance, are impinged or

in some way weakened we will find asthma, which is only found in

parasympathetic dominance and is always accompanied by an alkaline state

in the lungs.

I supplemented my son with natural acidifiers to overcome the

alkaline/parasymp dominance. but he was a teenager in otherwise very

good health, a top athlete.

having said all that, I will tell you now that I am switching (well,

trying to get there) my emphasis for many years on physical imbalances,

to understand the 'spirit' imbalance that I believe comes first, thus

opening us up to the physical problem. I'm far from 'there' but my

understanding is growing as I seek for answers.

But we are definitly tripartite beings, spirit, mind and body, and it's

impossible to be unbalanced in only one area.

So, between my email, and doubtless others from the list, you should

have a lot to chew on for awhile!

Hopefully I've given you an idea of where I'm coming from, and other

than a cerificate in nutrition from U of Penn, I have no shingle to hang

out, and no 'practice' to speak of. Other listers are far more

experienced than I, I'm sure.

If I can help you, answer questions, let me know.

In the meantime, my prayers are with you!

Sharon

Tim and/or Peggy Walters wrote:

>

> Hi Sharon, What jumped out at you had just been called to my attention by

another group member who wrote to me privately. You're right--there's nothing

I'd rather hear less. I live to paint. But you're also right, it's blindingly

obvious that this might be the problem. I hadn't even thought of it. I've been

out of my studio since December because of being so ill. After months of

parasite cleansing, I finally had enough energy to return to work. Tuesday

night when I had the first attack I'd spent the day in my studio. I was out of

the studio all day Wednesday from illness, but felt fine on Thursday and

returned to work. I promptly had another spell on Thursday night. Oh no! Say

it isn't so. What on earth will I do? There must be some solution besides

giving up my vocation and my passion for art. Help, help, help!

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Dear Peggy,

Painters notoriously have buildups of chemicals in

their livers. Because you wake between 1 and 3 am, which

is liver time, I am sure that is where your problem lies.

You could try some coffee enemas. Use organic coffee, and make about a

quart. Retain it for about 15 minutes if you can.

There is an ozone sauna clinic in Washington DC.

Email me privately if you want the number.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH

another vertigo episode

> Just summoning the strength to sit here for a few minutes in hopes of

recording my experience. Thanks to all who responded to my plea for help

with vertigo. Last night I awoke with another episode, at exactly the same

time as the previous one, 2:45 a.m. I'd had a good day, with no

symptoms--I'd gone for a walk, done light housework, cooked breakfast and

dinner, and spent the day working in my studio (I'm a painter). As I was

cleaning up the kitchen after dinner I began to feel a little woozy and

weak. I was washing out my paint brushes and thought " I just have to finish

this, I can make it, then I'll lie down and this will go away. " But it

didn't go away. I just kept feeling weaker and weaker. I went to bed and

went to sleep easily around 10:00. At 2:45 I awoke. I knew instantly I was

in trouble. I was weak, felt like jello, no strength in my legs. And I had

a headache, which was a new symptom. This time I knew better than to jump

out of bed and head for the bathroom. I lay there and simply observed my

body, focusing on not panicking. I was shivering uncontrollably, as though

I were freezing, but I wasn't really cold. My face felt like it was on

fire. Even now, many hours later, my face is still red. My heart was

pounding, but that could have been from fear. I managed to get up and go to

the bathroom only by holding onto the walls to steady myself. It wasn't a

room-spinning dizziness, milder than that, but enough to make me very

cautious. The weakness was the scariest part.

>

> I decided this a.m. to see a doctor, fearing this would happen again on

the weekend and that it could be serious. I was checked out by a local

doctor--the one I'd seen on Wednesday was out of town and I felt I needed

someone nearby in case this turned out to be an emergency situation. He did

a tilt-table test and said I didn't have low blood pressure. He felt the

dizziness might be from congestion in my ears and gave me a prescription (of

course) for a decongestant, and some samples of an antihistamine. (I didn't

use either of them). An EKG was normal. He said he felt this was probably

a transient viral episode, but that if it isn't and the symptoms return

(that's a laugh--they haven't left yet) I was looking at hospitalization and

a long neurological work-up. I told him I'd have to be on my deathbed to

submit to that, and even then I'd think twice. After 17 years and enough

work-ups to stun an elephant, I know what they have to offer me--even today

he told me the most prevalent symptom in CFS is depression--I'm tired of

explaining that I'm not depressed.

>

> So that's the latest and if anyone has anything to add to previous

observations/recommendations, I'll be watching for your posts. Meanwhile, I

have some questions about what's been suggested so far. Sharon, you

suggested using a brand called Standard Process and said I should be able to

find a practitioner in my area who can provide this. What kind of

practitioner are you suggesting? And btw, does anyone know anyone who might

be able to provide truly useful help of some kind to someone in my

situation--I live within driving distance of polis, Washington D.C. and

Baltimore.

>

> And Jim, you suggested Dr. Schulze's cayenne. I have his catalog and it

sounds like a fantastic product, but I've been having such problems with my

digestion since I started deparasitizing, never before that. I figured

cayenne would just about finish me off. I know the benefits are great, but

how do I get it past my stomach? Even Dr. Schulze says it's really, really

hot. It sounds like all the benefits would be just great for me, but I

don't know how to get it down. Am I wrong in assuming it's going to be hot

on the stomach? (I'm originally from Louisiana, so it's not like I'm a

stranger to spicy food--it's just that there's lately been a problem.)

>

> As to the 3 to 5 glasses of apple cider vinegar & honey daily--do you mean

straight vinegar, or diluted, and in what proportions and how many ounces?

I use Bragg's apple cider vinegar, so I always have it on hand, and am ready

to begin if I know how to fix it.

>

> I think that's about it. I'd better go lie down now. Thanks, everybody.

Your support and information is so helpful.

>

> Peggy

>

>

>

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Jim, I use oils and I've been using a citrus based solvent which I'd read was

safe but I've now located an odorless mineral spirits which is extremely safe so

I can switch to that. How do I connect with a distributor of the Australian

paints? I've tried acrylics and can't stand them--wish I liked them but they

totally lack the wonderful properties that make me love oil painting.

Thanks.

Peggy

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>

> > Just summoning the strength to sit here for a few minutes in hopes of

> recording my experience. Thanks to all who responded to my plea for help

> with vertigo. Last night I awoke with another episode, at exactly the same

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Peggy,

My 82 year old mom is also a painter. I wonder what medium you pain

with? Do you use oils? My mom uses Turpenoid Natural instead of

turpentine, with oils. And poppy seed, or safflower seed, oils can be

substituted too.

She says Chroma Archival products, from Australia, have never given her

a reaction. And, if you use acrylics, they are the safest.

These are just a few suggestions she made.

jim :)

>

> Best of Health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH

> another vertigo episode

>

> > Just summoning the strength to sit here for a few minutes in hopes of

> recording my experience. Thanks to all who responded to my plea for help

> with vertigo. Last night I awoke with another episode, at exactly the same

-----

carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert

jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

http://www.entrance.to/poetry

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Peggy,

Mom gets the Chroma products from Jerry's Artarama. The oil itself is

called Archival Lean Medium

http://www.jerryscatalog.com

jim :)

Tim and/or Peggy Walters wrote:

>

> Jim, I use oils and I've been using a citrus based solvent which I'd read was

safe but I've now located an odorless mineral spirits which is extremely safe so

I can switch to that. How do I connect with a distributor of the Australian

paints? I've tried acrylics and can't stand them--wish I liked them but they

totally lack the wonderful properties that make me love oil painting.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Peggy

> ----- Original Message -----

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