Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Hello! As I said in another mail I stopped to brew KT 15 years ago when my son was born. But as I start again to brew KT I have a question in my head: " Where are the KT I bottled the day before my son's birth? " I found them today! They were in the basement, behind some old gardening tools and flower pots. Big surprise: there are scobies in three of the six bottles. The bottles with scobies have some air inside and the bottles without scobies have no air, the KT is at the top. Here is a picture from my 15 year old KT with the scobies.: http://cjoint.com/?gqqRxW6oAF Do you think that the scobies are alive? Is this old KT a super starter or are all the yeast and bacteria dead? Is there someone who had the same experience? (in Belgium) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 This is the longest storage I've ever heard and you should give resusitation a try purely for the knowledge we'll all gain if you are successful. You are in uncharted territory. What a great opportunity! I await patiently to hear the results of your efforts, Dr. - Len 15 years old! As I said in another mail I stopped to brew KT 15 years ago when my son was born. But as I start again to brew KT I have a question in my head: " Where are the KT I bottled the day before my son's birth? " I found them today! They were in the basement, behind some old gardening tools and flower pots. Big surprise: there are scobies in three of the six bottles. The bottles with scobies have some air inside and the bottles without scobies have no air, the KT is at the top. Here is a picture from my 15 year old KT with the scobies.: http://cjoint.com/?gqqRxW6oAF Do you think that the scobies are alive? Is this old KT a super starter or are all the yeast and bacteria dead? Is there someone who had the same experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 , Interesting. Why are they shaped like that? And why are there several separate ones? Tim Dallas " (in Belgium) " <cathcartes@...> wrote: Hello! As I said in another mail I stopped to brew KT 15 years ago when my son was born. But as I start again to brew KT I have a question in my head: " Where are the KT I bottled the day before my son's birth? " I found them today! They were in the basement, behind some old gardening tools and flower pots. Big surprise: there are scobies in three of the six bottles. The bottles with scobies have some air inside and the bottles without scobies have no air, the KT is at the top. Here is a picture from my 15 year old KT with the scobies.: http://cjoint.com/?gqqRxW6oAF Do you think that the scobies are alive? Is this old KT a super starter or are all the yeast and bacteria dead? Is there someone who had the same experience? (in Belgium) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 OK Len, I'll try to bring it to life again but not immediately, first I must manage to make nice KT with the fridged (?) scoby, one resusitation at a time, please! ;-) I'll let you know when I'll start with the 15 years old one but I guess that the first challenge will be: " How to get the scobies out of the bottle? " (in Belgium) 2005/6/16, Len Porzio <len.porzio@...>: > This is the longest storage I've ever heard and you should give > resusitation > a try purely for the knowledge we'll all gain if you are successful. > > You are in uncharted territory. What a great opportunity! > > I await patiently to hear the results of your efforts, Dr. > > - Len > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Hello Tim, I guess that the shape of the scobies is because they grow from the top and the bottle was fillled with KT to its neck (?), which is narrower than the bottle itself. I don't know why there are several scobies, maybe because of the temperature variations between summer and winter, maybe the KT worked during 5 or 6 summers and when there were no more nutriments it stopped to work, I really don't know. (in Belgium) 2005/6/16, Tim <timcall@...>: > > , > > Interesting. Why are they shaped like that? And why are there several > separate ones? > > Tim > Dallas > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Hmmm. I know how to get an egg into a bottle (using KT of course) but I'm afraid the technique doesn't apply here. You only really need the little baby in the neck for this to be considered a success. - Len Re: 15 years old! .... I guess that the first challenge will be: " How to get the scobies out of the bottle? " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Amazing! Thanks for sharing . Tim " (in Belgium) " <cathcartes@...> wrote: Hello Tim, I guess that the shape of the scobies is because they grow from the top and the bottle was fillled with KT to its neck (?), which is narrower than the bottle itself. I don't know why there are several scobies, maybe because of the temperature variations between summer and winter, maybe the KT worked during 5 or 6 summers and when there were no more nutriments it stopped to work, I really don't know. (in Belgium) 2005/6/16, Tim <timcall@...>: > > , > > Interesting. Why are they shaped like that? And why are there several > separate ones? > > Tim > Dallas > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 You could use one of those glass bottle cutters and cut around the bottle about an inch up from the bottom. Tim " (in Belgium) " <cathcartes@...> wrote: OK Len, I'll try to bring it to life again but not immediately, first I must manage to make nice KT with the fridged (?) scoby, one resusitation at a time, please! ;-) I'll let you know when I'll start with the 15 years old one but I guess that the first challenge will be: " How to get the scobies out of the bottle? " (in Belgium) 2005/6/16, Len Porzio <len.porzio@...>: > This is the longest storage I've ever heard and you should give > resusitation > a try purely for the knowledge we'll all gain if you are successful. > > You are in uncharted territory. What a great opportunity! > > I await patiently to hear the results of your efforts, Dr. > > - Len > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Another idea about the number of the scobies: when a scoby grows it becomes heavier and heavier, when it is too heavy to float the scoby sinks to the bottom and another one begins to grow at the top of the bottle. . 2005/6/16, (in Belgium) <cathcartes@...>: > > Hello Tim, > I guess that the shape of the scobies is because they grow from the top > and the bottle was fillled with KT to its neck (?), which is narrower than > the bottle itself. I don't know why there are several scobies, maybe because > of the temperature variations between summer and winter, maybe the KT worked > during 5 or 6 summers and when there were no more nutriments it stopped to > work, I really don't know. > (in Belgium) > > 2005/6/16, Tim <timcall@...>: > > > > , > > > > Interesting. Why are they shaped like that? And why are there several > > separate ones? > > > > Tim > > Dallas > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 And maybe share these Scobies around the world! They have to be added to one of the Wonders of the World, don't ya think? Sasha -- 15 years old! As I said in another mail I stopped to brew KT 15 years ago when my son was born. But as I start again to brew KT I have a question in my head: " Where are the KT I bottled the day before my son's birth? " I found them today! They were in the basement, behind some old gardening tools and flower pots. Big surprise: there are scobies in three of the six bottles. The bottles with scobies have some air inside and the bottles without scobies have no air, the KT is at the top. Here is a picture from my 15 year old KT with the scobies.: http://cjoint.com/?gqqRxW6oAF Do you think that the scobies are alive? Is this old KT a super starter or are all the yeast and bacteria dead? Is there someone who had the same experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 You could use a chop stick, slide it down the side and with a little upward pressure gently slide one out the top. That's how I get out flavoring tea bags when I crack open an ice cold brew. Works like a charm. Kinda makes me want to stow about a bottle and see what happens! Cool stuff. Randie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 ....or even 2 chop sticks, one on each side of the scoby...you'll have to explain to them what " scoby " means as the term had not yet been coined when they were " born. " Tim Dallas sudsup <sudsup@...> wrote: You could use a chop stick, slide it down the side and with a little upward pressure gently slide one out the top. That's how I get out flavoring tea bags when I crack open an ice cold brew. Works like a charm. Kinda makes me want to stow about a bottle and see what happens! Cool stuff. Randie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 In message <42B1DBDC.000001.03940@SASHASCOMPUTER> you wrote: > And maybe share these Scobies around the world! Definitely. I stand in the queue (in case you hadn't noticed... but quite a long way behind!) > They have to be added to > one of the Wonders of the World, don't ya think? Oh aye, certainly. Standing in awe of such a modern antiquity! Margret:-) -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ <)))<>< Minstrel@... <)))<>< www.therpc.f9.co.uk +---------------------------------------------------------------+ God's first thought is not what we can do, but what we can become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 You could slice those weinie shaped scobies into one centimeter slices and sell them to us... Tim " (in Belgium) " <cathcartes@...> wrote: Hello Tim, I guess that the shape of the scobies is because they grow from the top and the bottle was fillled with KT to its neck (?), which is narrower than the bottle itself. I don't know why there are several scobies, maybe because of the temperature variations between summer and winter, maybe the KT worked during 5 or 6 summers and when there were no more nutriments it stopped to work, I really don't know. (in Belgium) 2005/6/16, Tim <timcall@...>: > > , > > Interesting. Why are they shaped like that? And why are there several > separate ones? > > Tim > Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Considering how slippery the cultures are, she would need teeth on the chop sticks! Judy > You could use a chop stick, slide it down the side and with a little > upward pressure gently slide one out the top. That's how I get out > flavoring tea bags when I crack open an ice cold brew. Works like a > charm. > > Kinda makes me want to stow about a bottle and see what happens! Cool > stuff. > > Randie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Tim, I don't know the tool you write about but maybe something like that will work? ;-) http://www.access-wines.com/sabre_champagne/sword_champagne_en.php (in Belgium) 2005/6/16, Tim <timcall@...>: > You could use one of those glass bottle cutters and cut around the bottle > about an inch up from the bottom. > > Tim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Thanks to all of you for the ideas to get the scobies out of the bottle, I promise you that I'll let you know when I'll begin to work with (and I'll try to send some picture or the -maybe- difficult extraction of the scoby). This old KT learned me two things: -The temperature range in the basement is between 1° C (33.8° F) and 15° C (59° F), it shows that KT can produce a scoby at very low temperature. (Maybe in a very long time but... it works!) -There is a need of some air to produce a scoby (the bottles with KT to the top don't show any scoby) but a very little amount of air is sufficient. (in Belgium) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Wouldn't you be concerned with small glass fragments getting into the culture and/or kt? > > You could use one of those glass bottle cutters and cut around the bottle > > about an inch up from the bottom. > > > > Tim > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Perhaps minimally so, but these cutters generally give a very clean cut. Tim sudsup <sudsup@...> wrote: Wouldn't you be concerned with small glass fragments getting into the culture and/or kt? > > You could use one of those glass bottle cutters and cut around the bottle about an inch up from the bottom. > > > > Tim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 This " saber " appears to not actually cut the glass. I'll see if I can locate one. Best, Tim " (in Belgium) " <cathcartes@...> wrote: Tim, I don't know the tool you write about but maybe something like that will work? ;-) http://www.access-wines.com/sabre_champagne/sword_champagne_en.php (in Belgium) 2005/6/16, Tim <timcall@...>: > You could use one of those glass bottle cutters and cut around the bottle > about an inch up from the bottom. > > Tim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 This is a good point Judy. She could take a knife and carve up a small amount of the bamboo that might assist in gripping the scoby on its way out. Tim jmb20346 <jmb20346@...> wrote: Considering how slippery the cultures are, she would need teeth on the chop sticks! Judy > You could use a chop stick, slide it down the side and with a little > upward pressure gently slide one out the top. That's how I get out > flavoring tea bags when I crack open an ice cold brew. Works like a > charm. > > Kinda makes me want to stow about a bottle and see what happens! Cool > stuff. > > Randie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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