Re: I can't keep my kombucha bubbly!

[Guest guest]

Carbonantion does not really give any benefit. What little positive effect

of blood buffering it supplies is offset by the fact you are injesting CO2,

a waste product as far as your body is concerned.

But it definely adds to the taste and just like soda left uncapped it will

go flat.

Best thing to do is to bottle and cap securely without an air gap. Use

small bottles so that when you have to open one there will be a good chance

of you consuming it before it goes flat.

The temperature drop while in the refrigerator will cause any air gap to act

as a vaccum which will pull some of the CO2 out of solution.

Also, CO2 has less energy when the tea is cooled, further leaving the

impression that the tea is flat. For example, take some of the tea that was

stored sealed, pour it in a glass and stick it in the Microwave for about 30

seconds to warm it just a little above room temperature. You may notice it

begin quite effervesent if there is still a fair amount of CO2 in it.

- Len

I can't keep my kombucha bubbly!

I have a question for all of you about how I can keep my kombucha

bubbly? I let it ferment for about 8-10 days and once it's done it is

fizzy. Then I store it in glass mason jars in my redrigerator (metal

never comes into contact w/ the tea though). After about 2 days the

tea tastes flat. The lids are secured tight so I don't know how I am

loosing all of the fizz. Also, I don't know if the tea, once it goes

flat, lacks all benefits?

[Guest guest]

Thanks, that sounds like a good solution, I will bottle it in many

small bottles from now on and see if that helps.

Can you comment more on the ingestion of CO2? I drink sparkling

mineral water all of the time b/c I crave the carbonation--does anyone

know if this is really bad for me?

Thanks,

On 6/6/05, Len Porzio <len.porzio@...> wrote:

> Carbonantion does not really give any benefit. What little positive effect

> of blood buffering it supplies is offset by the fact you are injesting CO2,

> a waste product as far as your body is concerned.

>

> But it definely adds to the taste and just like soda left uncapped it will

> go flat.

>

> Best thing to do is to bottle and cap securely without an air gap. Use

> small bottles so that when you have to open one there will be a good chance

> of you consuming it before it goes flat.

> - Len

[Guest guest]

Hi

trust me on this.........there's NO PROBLEM. Don't worry about that. Only

about the purity of the H2O.....

blessings

mark

Re: I can't keep my kombucha bubbly!

Thanks, that sounds like a good solution, I will bottle it in many

small bottles from now on and see if that helps.

Can you comment more on the ingestion of CO2? I drink sparkling

mineral water all of the time b/c I crave the carbonation--does anyone

know if this is really bad for me?

Thanks,

On 6/6/05, Len Porzio <len.porzio@...> wrote:

> Carbonantion does not really give any benefit. What little positive effect

> of blood buffering it supplies is offset by the fact you are injesting CO2,

> a waste product as far as your body is concerned.

>

> But it definely adds to the taste and just like soda left uncapped it will

> go flat.

>

> Best thing to do is to bottle and cap securely without an air gap. Use

> small bottles so that when you have to open one there will be a good chance

> of you consuming it before it goes flat.

> - Len

[Guest guest]

I'm not entirely sure, but I think it forms carbonic acid, and therefore

upsets your body's pH balance. Also, I think it leeches calcium, or at

least interferes with calcium absorption.

Re: I can't keep my kombucha bubbly!

> Thanks, that sounds like a good solution, I will bottle it in many

> small bottles from now on and see if that helps.

>

> Can you comment more on the ingestion of CO2? I drink sparkling

> mineral water all of the time b/c I crave the carbonation--does anyone

> know if this is really bad for me?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> On 6/6/05, Len Porzio <len.porzio@...> wrote:

>> Carbonantion does not really give any benefit. What little positive

>> effect

>> of blood buffering it supplies is offset by the fact you are injesting

>> CO2,

>> a waste product as far as your body is concerned.

>>

>> But it definely adds to the taste and just like soda left uncapped it

>> will

>> go flat.

>>

>> Best thing to do is to bottle and cap securely without an air gap. Use

>> small bottles so that when you have to open one there will be a good

>> chance

>> of you consuming it before it goes flat.

>

>> - Len

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You may be thinking of the phosphoric acid in cola (and some other

carbonated drinks like root beer). That strips calcium out of the body and

speeds up osteoporosis. I've never heard of CO2 doing that though.

Best Regards,

Vince

Re: I can't keep my kombucha bubbly!

I'm not entirely sure, but I think it forms carbonic acid, and therefore

upsets your body's pH balance. Also, I think it leeches calcium, or at

least interferes with calcium absorption.

Re: I can't keep my kombucha bubbly!

> Thanks, that sounds like a good solution, I will bottle it in many

> small bottles from now on and see if that helps.

>

> Can you comment more on the ingestion of CO2? I drink sparkling

> mineral water all of the time b/c I crave the carbonation--does anyone

> know if this is really bad for me?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> On 6/6/05, Len Porzio <len.porzio@...> wrote:

>> Carbonantion does not really give any benefit. What little positive

>> effect

>> of blood buffering it supplies is offset by the fact you are injesting

>> CO2,

>> a waste product as far as your body is concerned.

>>

>> But it definely adds to the taste and just like soda left uncapped it

>> will

>> go flat.

>>

>> Best thing to do is to bottle and cap securely without an air gap. Use

>> small bottles so that when you have to open one there will be a good

>> chance

>> of you consuming it before it goes flat.

>

>> - Len

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Compared to what? This like most polutants this is a function of how

healthy an individual is. It tends to increase the frequency of attacks for

things like IBS and acid reflux and is just one more waste product your body

has to eliminate. But in general the effects are unnoticed by healthy

individuals sort of on the order of driving in traffic versus on an open

country road.

The point I was trying to make was any minor percieved benefits of

carbonation are also offset by minor negative effects. So its effects

should not be a factor one way or the other.

- Len

Re: I can't keep my kombucha bubbly!

Thanks, that sounds like a good solution, I will bottle it in many

small bottles from now on and see if that helps.

Can you comment more on the ingestion of CO2? I drink sparkling

mineral water all of the time b/c I crave the carbonation--does anyone

know if this is really bad for me?

[Guest guest]

The information that I had heard previously was probably based on the idea

that a reaction would produce calcium carbonate (chalk), one of the least

soluble forms of calcium. I just did a little searching, and it seems like

this notion has been rejected as a direct cause of osteoporosis (meaning

that it doesn't actually leach calcium from the body), but I still think

it's possible that consuming carbonated beverages could inhibit calcium

absorption from foods consumed in the same sitting.

Cheers,

Si

Re: I can't keep my kombucha bubbly!

>

>

>> Thanks, that sounds like a good solution, I will bottle it in many

>> small bottles from now on and see if that helps.

>>

>> Can you comment more on the ingestion of CO2? I drink sparkling

>> mineral water all of the time b/c I crave the carbonation--does anyone

>> know if this is really bad for me?

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>>

>> On 6/6/05, Len Porzio <len.porzio@...> wrote:

>>> Carbonantion does not really give any benefit. What little positive

>>> effect

>>> of blood buffering it supplies is offset by the fact you are injesting

>>> CO2,

>>> a waste product as far as your body is concerned.

>>>

>>> But it definely adds to the taste and just like soda left uncapped it

>>> will

>>> go flat.

>>>

>>> Best thing to do is to bottle and cap securely without an air gap. Use

>>> small bottles so that when you have to open one there will be a good

>>> chance

>>> of you consuming it before it goes flat.

>>

>>> - Len

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

That may be true, but kombucha is known to increase absorption.

Re: I can't keep my kombucha bubbly!

>>

>>

>>> Thanks, that sounds like a good solution, I will bottle it in many

>>> small bottles from now on and see if that helps.

>>>

>>> Can you comment more on the ingestion of CO2? I drink sparkling

>>> mineral water all of the time b/c I crave the carbonation--does anyone

>>> know if this is really bad for me?

>>>

>>> Thanks,

>>>

>>>

>>> On 6/6/05, Len Porzio <len.porzio@...> wrote:

>>>> Carbonantion does not really give any benefit. What little positive

>>>> effect

>>>> of blood buffering it supplies is offset by the fact you are injesting

>>>> CO2,

>>>> a waste product as far as your body is concerned.

>>>>

>>>> But it definely adds to the taste and just like soda left uncapped it

>>>> will

>>>> go flat.

>>>>

>>>> Best thing to do is to bottle and cap securely without an air gap.

>>>> Use

>>>> small bottles so that when you have to open one there will be a good

>>>> chance

>>>> of you consuming it before it goes flat.

>>>

>>>> - Len

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

So, then theoretically you would be negating one of kombucha's positive

effects. I assume this positive effect comes from the acidity. Calcium

absorption requires acidic conditions, but calcium carbonate even has

trouble dissolving in acids.

Realistically, the detriment is probably negligible. My point was that if

you really want to squeeze every last bit of health mileage out of your

kombucha, flat is where it's at. Personally, I like the bubbly stuff :-)

Re: I can't keep my kombucha bubbly!

>

>

>> The information that I had heard previously was probably based on the

>> idea

>> that a reaction would produce calcium carbonate (chalk), one of the least

>> soluble forms of calcium. I just did a little searching, and it seems

>> like

>> this notion has been rejected as a direct cause of osteoporosis (meaning

>> that it doesn't actually leach calcium from the body), but I still think

>> it's possible that consuming carbonated beverages could inhibit calcium

>> absorption from foods consumed in the same sitting.

>> Cheers,

>> Si