Guest guest Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Early on, my communication on the Inet required me to use basic English as much as possible and I found even some technical terms like "metabolic syndrome" told me nothing. Dr Grim changed that to eataholic syndrome - explains everything. I have no idea what you might experience but I have seen people suddenly forget the point they're trying to make. If a person has to think about whether they have "brain fog", probably means they don't have it. Regards Re: New poll for hyperaldosteronism The term brain fog is in the PAsurveyresults.doc. So someone else has used it before. By it self it doesn't mean much but I can understand what they are talking about. We now have others trying to describe how they perceive it to be. I hope many more tell there stories. While it would be nice to have someway that truly explaines it. Some how I don't think you can truly do this. What we need to know is if it is Conn's related. I have this term used as well in searching for Conn's "a feeling of being unwell for a long time". Just what dose mean? I can relate to it as I am sure others can. But it does you doctor very little good to tell him this. I think there are many vague Sx at least at first with Conn's. Many of Conn's SX are the same for other diseases. There are may places I read High blood pressure may be the only SX on Conn's other then here I have never see many other SX of Conn's What are the text book SX of Conn's? Not what you know them to be but what do they teach in Med school. > >> >> >> > I think he is really struggling for a diagnosis and is trying to > >> see what> >> > others have experienced. Been there, done that.> >> >> >> > Val> >> >> >> > From: hyperaldosteronism> >> > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism] On Behalf Of > >> Clarence Grim> >> >> >> >> >> > In general we recommend review by our group before polls are > >> done. Helps> >> > minimize GIGO.> >> >> >> > AKA garbage in, garbage out.> >> >> >> > I think your poll with not yield much, but will wait till you get > >> feedback.> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>__________ NOD32 4389 (20090902) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Other then B/P meds nothing else is beind done as to LVH I do use a CPAP device. A bit of history needs to be looked at. Over the past four years I have had 11 EKG's A 48 hour Halter monitor. A event monitor. A CT and MRI on the brain. 3 CT of the chest 2 abdominal CT. 2 stress tests 2 ECG several chest x rays ultra sound of the kidneys 2 ultra sound of my legs to check for blood clots. A pulmonary function test. 2 sleep studies. A scan of the carotid arterys. and many lab tests. From my doctors point of view nothing has been found to indicate any type of Diagnoses. Or any clue why I have lightheadness/ dizzness shortness of breath pitting edema or fatigued. Except maybe sleep apnea. After 2 years on the CPAP device I still have all the SX Also still have problems with sleep. What the test have showed is I have frequent asymptomatic PVCs, sinus tachycardia, a 2.2 cm low density lesion off mid pole of left kidney 34 Hu greater than expected for a simple cyst. A stable18 mm low density lesion in the left adrenal gland which likely represents an adenoma and demonstrates no change in size from 2006. CFH has been ruled out. The ECG are normal for my age. Stress tests have ruled out most other heart problems. Brain scan shows there is mild to moderate cerebral atrophy. Of course I feel that my Sx are due to to the adenoma. > > Yes I would like to have somekind of diagnosis Be it Conn's or something > else. I also want to help others that are struggling for a diagnosis. > > Many SX for Conn's are unheard of for most doctors and many of them one > can't really explain in a may that make sense to there doctors. > > So to help others and my self we need all the help we can get. We need > information in ways that makes sense to us. It needs to be readily > available. > > Right now this group seem to be the place to get this information. However > the way this site works much good informatiom is very hard to find. > > More should be in files but right now it is almost imposable to look at all > the emails edit what is useful information and put it in the files. > > Polls can be used by any one If the information only helps one person then > that person gets the answer he needs. If the information is useful to every > one it can be put in a file. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 i recommend taking the MMSE self adm one from England when having such an episode and have ur dr do the formal MMSE. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Oct 2, 2009, at 11:32 PM, Helen Drewe <hdrewe@...> wrote: For example, I define "brain fog" as - when I am reading, and suddenly I am unable to understand what is on the page- when I am watching TV and nothing makes sense - having a conversation, then suddenly not remembering and feeling confused - difficulty concentrating at times. The episodes for me can come on suddenly, at other times it can last most of the day. I note that it doesnt seem to correlate with K levels. On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 3:40 PM, megra0409 <megra0409bigpond> wrote: · Cognitive dysfunction (or brain fog) is defined as unusually poor mental function, associated with confusion, forgetfulness and difficulty concentrating. When I have these episodes, the description above is most suitable and I too call it a ‘brain fog’. From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence Grim Sent: Saturday, 3 October 2009 1:48 PMhyperaldosteronism Subject: Re: Re: New poll for hyperaldosteronism But I nor other Drs know what u mean by brain fog Please describe in detail. Tiped sad Send form mi iPhone ;-) May your pressure be low! CE Grim MD Specializing in Difficult Hypertension On Oct 2, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Bill <georgewbill > wrote: I see my doctor at least every 3 months. This is his choice to see me this often. We have talk many time about the lightheadness. I have tried to tell him what I feel but so far haven't been to successful. Partly because the feeling changes and partly he is trying to fit sx into his knowledge of them. To him lightheadness means you feel like you are going to faint and dizzness means the room spinning around. What I feel is not quite being dizzy of like I am going to faint. I is a feeling I can not truly explain. The brain fog seem to better fit. Sorry the Lightness was a typo. The terms seem to be common terms that those with Conn's use. I know they aren't terms that a doctor always understands. I have been asked mant times to describe what I feel. Something I can't realy do. The one problem with the poll is you can only ask one question. depending on what input is given other polls can be used. I have seen the term brain fog used a lot and after seeing it used I can under stand what it means. I have refered to my self is being lightheaded. Now I think brain fog fits better. Since I don't drink or smoke including the special cigarettes. I cant say what the felling is like when drunk. I have seen others say there brain fog is somewhat the felling they get when drunk. With me the fellings never goes away there are times it is better then others. So far I don't know what makes it better or worse. All the questions you ask should answered. Just don't know how to put some of them in the polls > > >> > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the> > hyperaldosteronism group:> >> > How often do you have lightness/brain fog> >> > o all the time > > o part of the day> > o a few days a week> > o a few days a month> > o a few days a year> >> > To vote, please visit the following web page:> > group/hyperaldos teronism/ surveys?id= 2233942 > >> > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are> > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the > > web site listed above.> >> > Thanks! > >> >> Messages in this topic (32) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Recent Activity 6 New Members 1 New Polls 1 New Links Visit Your Group Give Back for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 I had sleep apnea on a beta blocker after I put on weight. It is reduced, but not elimiated that I have stopped the BB, but taking off the weight is what is needed for me, which won't happen while my drugs knock me out of ketosis. Bindner Web Directory (links to my sites and blogs): http://www.geocities.com/mikeybdc/index.html http://mikeybdc.blogspot.com From: Francis Bill <georgewbill@...>Subject: Re: New poll for hyperaldosteronismhyperaldosteronism Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 10:48 AM Other then B/P meds nothing else is beind done as to LVH I do use a CPAP device. A bit of history needs to be looked at. Over the past four years I have had 11 EKG's A 48 hour Halter monitor. A event monitor. A CT and MRI on the brain. 3 CT of the chest 2 abdominal CT. 2 stress tests 2 ECG several chest x rays ultra sound of the kidneys 2 ultra sound of my legs to check for blood clots. A pulmonary function test. 2 sleep studies. A scan of the carotid arterys. and many lab tests. From my doctors point of view nothing has been found to indicate any type of Diagnoses. Or any clue why I have lightheadness/ dizzness shortness of breath pitting edema or fatigued. Except maybe sleep apnea. After 2 years on the CPAP device I still have all the SX Also still have problems with sleep. What the test have showed is I have frequent asymptomatic PVCs, sinus tachycardia, a 2.2 cm low density lesion off mid pole of left kidney 34 Hu greater than expected for a simple cyst. A stable18 mm low density lesion in the left adrenal gland which likely represents an adenoma and demonstrates no change in size from 2006. CFH has been ruled out. The ECG are normal for my age. Stress tests have ruled out most other heart problems. Brain scan shows there is mild to moderate cerebral atrophy. Of course I feel that my Sx are due to to the adenoma. > > Yes I would like to have somekind of diagnosis Be it Conn's or something> else. I also want to help others that are struggling for a diagnosis. > > Many SX for Conn's are unheard of for most doctors and many of them one> can't really explain in a may that make sense to there doctors. > > So to help others and my self we need all the help we can get. We need> information in ways that makes sense to us. It needs to be readily> available. > > Right now this group seem to be the place to get this information. However> the way this site works much good informatiom is very hard to find. > > More should be in files but right now it is almost imposable to look at all> the emails edit what is useful information and put it in the files. > > Polls can be used by any one If the information only helps one person then> that person gets the answer he needs. If the information is useful to every> one it can be put in a file.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 LVH begins with first ingesrtion of more salt than ur body canhandle. The heart must get "stronger" thicker to increase BP AND KEEP it up. Soso lowering BP/salt intake is the key. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Oct 4, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Francis Bill <georgewbill@...> wrote: Other then B/P meds nothing else is beind done as to LVH I do use a CPAP device. A bit of history needs to be looked at. Over the past four years I have had 11 EKG's A 48 hour Halter monitor. A event monitor. A CT and MRI on the brain. 3 CT of the chest 2 abdominal CT. 2 stress tests 2 ECG several chest x rays ultra sound of the kidneys 2 ultra sound of my legs to check for blood clots. A pulmonary function test. 2 sleep studies. A scan of the carotid arterys. and many lab tests. From my doctors point of view nothing has been found to indicate any type of Diagnoses. Or any clue why I have lightheadness/ dizzness shortness of breath pitting edema or fatigued. Except maybe sleep apnea. After 2 years on the CPAP device I still have all the SX Also still have problems with sleep. What the test have showed is I have frequent asymptomatic PVCs, sinus tachycardia, a 2.2 cm low density lesion off mid pole of left kidney 34 Hu greater than expected for a simple cyst. A stable18 mm low density lesion in the left adrenal gland which likely represents an adenoma and demonstrates no change in size from 2006. CFH has been ruled out. The ECG are normal for my age. Stress tests have ruled out most other heart problems. Brain scan shows there is mild to moderate cerebral atrophy. Of course I feel that my Sx are due to to the adenoma. > > Yes I would like to have somekind of diagnosis Be it Conn's or something > else. I also want to help others that are struggling for a diagnosis. > > Many SX for Conn's are unheard of for most doctors and many of them one > can't really explain in a may that make sense to there doctors. > > So to help others and my self we need all the help we can get. We need > information in ways that makes sense to us. It needs to be readily > available. > > Right now this group seem to be the place to get this information. However > the way this site works much good informatiom is very hard to find. > > More should be in files but right now it is almost imposable to look at all > the emails edit what is useful information and put it in the files. > > Polls can be used by any one If the information only helps one person then > that person gets the answer he needs. If the information is useful to every > one it can be put in a file. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 drugs will not knock u out of ketozis unless they Are DM drugs. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Oct 4, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Bindner <mikeybdc@...> wrote: I had sleep apnea on a beta blocker after I put on weight. It is reduced, but not elimiated that I have stopped the BB, but taking off the weight is what is needed for me, which won't happen while my drugs knock me out of ketosis. Bindner Web Directory (links to my sites and blogs): http://www.geocities.com/mikeybdc/index.html http://mikeybdc.blogspot.com From: Francis Bill <georgewbill >Subject: Re: New poll for hyperaldosteronismhyperaldosteronism Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 10:48 AM Other then B/P meds nothing else is beind done as to LVH I do use a CPAP device. A bit of history needs to be looked at. Over the past four years I have had 11 EKG's A 48 hour Halter monitor. A event monitor. A CT and MRI on the brain. 3 CT of the chest 2 abdominal CT. 2 stress tests 2 ECG several chest x rays ultra sound of the kidneys 2 ultra sound of my legs to check for blood clots. A pulmonary function test. 2 sleep studies. A scan of the carotid arterys. and many lab tests. From my doctors point of view nothing has been found to indicate any type of Diagnoses. Or any clue why I have lightheadness/ dizzness shortness of breath pitting edema or fatigued. Except maybe sleep apnea. After 2 years on the CPAP device I still have all the SX Also still have problems with sleep. What the test have showed is I have frequent asymptomatic PVCs, sinus tachycardia, a 2.2 cm low density lesion off mid pole of left kidney 34 Hu greater than expected for a simple cyst. A stable18 mm low density lesion in the left adrenal gland which likely represents an adenoma and demonstrates no change in size from 2006. CFH has been ruled out. The ECG are normal for my age. Stress tests have ruled out most other heart problems. Brain scan shows there is mild to moderate cerebral atrophy. Of course I feel that my Sx are due to to the adenoma. > > Yes I would like to have somekind of diagnosis Be it Conn's or something> else. I also want to help others that are struggling for a diagnosis. > > Many SX for Conn's are unheard of for most doctors and many of them one> can't really explain in a may that make sense to there doctors. > > So to help others and my self we need all the help we can get. We need> information in ways that makes sense to us. It needs to be readily> available. > > Right now this group seem to be the place to get this information. However> the way this site works much good informatiom is very hard to find. > > More should be in files but right now it is almost imposable to look at all> the emails edit what is useful information and put it in the files. > > Polls can be used by any one If the information only helps one person then> that person gets the answer he needs. If the information is useful to every> one it can be put in a file.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Here is the history of my EKGs 29-AUG-2005 11 :03:00 Vent. rate 110 BPM PR interval 176 ms ORS duration 104 ms OT/OTc 340/460 ms P-R-T axes 63 -27 68 25mm/s 10mm/mV 100Hz 005E 12SLJ8 CID: 8 Sinus tachycardia Nonspecific ST abnormality Abnormal ekg No previous ECG's available for comparison 12-SEP-2005 14:28:00 Vent. rate 69 BPM PR interval 156 ms ORS duration 104 ms OT/Otc 400/428 ms P-R-T axes 58 3 32 Normal sinus rhythm Normal ECG When compared with ECG of 29-AUG-200S 11:03, Heart rate has decreased 08-DEC-2005 14:09:00 Vent. rate 88 BPM PR interval 156 ms ORS duration 104 ms OT/OTc 368/445 ms P-R-T axes 64 -16 64 Normal sinus rhythm Normal ECG When compared with ECG of 12-SEP-2005 14:28, No significant change was found 06-JUN-2006 14:29:00 Vent. rate 86 BPM PR interval 152 ms ORS duration 104 ms OT/OTc 376/450 ms P-R-T axes 55 -19 46 Normal sinus rhythm Norma l ECG When compared with ECG of 08 - DEC- 2005 14 : 09 , No significant change was found 06-JUN-2006 14:29:00 Vent. rate 86 BPM PR interval 152 ms ORS duration 104 ms OT/OTc 376/450 ms P-R-T axes 55 -19 46 Normal sinus rhythm Norma l ECG When compared with ECG of 08 - DEC- 2005 14 : 09 , No significant change was found 23-FEB-2007 14: 11: 06 Vent. rate 90 BPM PR interval 160 ms ORS duration 100 ms OT/OTc 380/464 ms P-R-T axes 60 -20 50 Normal sinus rhythm Left ward axis Normal ECG 01-NOV-2008 12:51:18 Vent rate 66 BPM PR interval 128 ms QRS duration 98 ms QT/QTc 426/446 ms P-R-T axes 29 -16 -8 Normal sinus rymthm Normal ECG 13-DEC-2008 23 :34:32 Vent. rate 101 BPM PR interval 126 ms QRS duration 94 ms Abnormal ekg QT/QTc 366/474 ms P-R-T axes 33 -28 16 Sinus tachycardia Nonspecific T wave abnormality 04-JAN-2009 01 :49:38 Vent. rate 102 BPM PR interval 128 ms ORS duration 100 ms OT/OTc 376/490 ms P-R-T axes 33 -26 37 Sinus tachycardia Other wise normal ECG 14-JAN-2009 11 :44:53 Vent. rate 89 BPM PR interval 178 ms ORS duration 104 ms OT/OTe 380/462 ms P-R-T axes 61 -21 48 Normal sinus rhythm Leftward axis Borderline ECG 22-FEB-2009 12:22:53 Vent. rate 78 BPM Male Caucasian PR interval 128 ms QRS duration 94 ms QT/QTc 414/471 ms P-R-T axes 37 -18 14 Normal sinus Leftward axis Incomplete right bundle branch block Left ventricular hypertrophy Nonspecific ST and T wave abnormality This is my doctor's responce to the last EKG I located the reading for the ECG done in the emergency department in February. The four readings you mentioned were Leftward Axis, Incomplete Right Bundle Branch Block, Left Ventricular Hypertrophy and Nonspecific ST and T wave abnormality. The leftward axis and left ventricular hypertrophy are both findings that often accompany high blood pressure. The incomplete right bundle branch block is something frequently seen in patients like you with severe sleep apnea. It means that the right side of your heart has to work extra hard associated with the sleep apnea. It underscores how important it is for you to use your CP AP therapy. The Nonspecific ST and T wave abnormality are just what it says - non-specific. They have no special relevance to your problems oflight-headedness, fatigue and episodic breathlessness. I am sorry that you continue to feel poorly but feel we have done all the necessary testing to seek an explanation. > > > > > > Yes I would like to have somekind of diagnosis Be it Conn's or > > something > > > else. I also want to help others that are struggling for a > > diagnosis. > > > > > > Many SX for Conn's are unheard of for most doctors and many of > > them one > > > can't really explain in a may that make sense to there doctors. > > > > > > So to help others and my self we need all the help we can get. We > > need > > > information in ways that makes sense to us. It needs to be readily > > > available. > > > > > > Right now this group seem to be the place to get this information. > > However > > > the way this site works much good informatiom is very hard to find. > > > > > > More should be in files but right now it is almost imposable to > > look at all > > > the emails edit what is useful information and put it in the files. > > > > > > Polls can be used by any one If the information only helps one > > person then > > > that person gets the answer he needs. If the information is useful > > to every > > > one it can be put in a file. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 I don't have all the information on my last stess test. It was done after the last EKG. My Dr told me it was normal so I don't think that the LVH showed up during the stress test. > > > > > > > > Yes I would like to have somekind of diagnosis Be it Conn's or > > > something > > > > else. I also want to help others that are struggling for a > > > diagnosis. > > > > > > > > Many SX for Conn's are unheard of for most doctors and many of > > > them one > > > > can't really explain in a may that make sense to there doctors. > > > > > > > > So to help others and my self we need all the help we can get. We > > > need > > > > information in ways that makes sense to us. It needs to be readily > > > > available. > > > > > > > > Right now this group seem to be the place to get this information. > > > However > > > > the way this site works much good informatiom is very hard to find. > > > > > > > > More should be in files but right now it is almost imposable to > > > look at all > > > > the emails edit what is useful information and put it in the files. > > > > > > > > Polls can be used by any one If the information only helps one > > > person then > > > > that person gets the answer he needs. If the information is useful > > > to every > > > > one it can be put in a file. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Perhaps you should see if NIH will accept you? Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Francis Bill Other then B/P meds nothing else is beind done as to LVH I do use a CPAP device. A bit of history needs to be looked at. Over the past four years I have had 11 EKG's A 48 hour Halter monitor. A event monitor. A CT and MRI on the brain. 3 CT of the chest 2 abdominal CT. 2 stress tests 2 ECG several chest x rays ultra sound of the kidneys 2 ultra sound of my legs to check for blood clots. A pulmonary function test. 2 sleep studies. A scan of the carotid arterys. and many lab tests. From my doctors point of view nothing has been found to indicate any type of Diagnoses. Or any clue why I have lightheadness/ dizzness shortness of breath pitting edema or fatigued. Except maybe sleep apnea. After 2 years on the CPAP device I still have all the SX Also still have problems with sleep. What the test have showed is I have frequent asymptomatic PVCs, sinus tachycardia, a 2.2 cm low density lesion off mid pole of left kidney 34 Hu greater than expected for a simple cyst. A stable18 mm low density lesion in the left adrenal gland which likely represents an adenoma and demonstrates no change in size from 2006. CFH has been ruled out. The ECG are normal for my age. Stress tests have ruled out most other heart problems. Brain scan shows there is mild to moderate cerebral atrophy. Of course I feel that my Sx are due to to the adenoma. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 this may well be related to Brain Fog. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 4, 2009, at 10:28 PM, Valarie wrote:Brain scan shows there is mild to moderate cerebral atrophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 according to neurology they don't think so. > > > Brain scan shows there is mild to moderate cerebral atrophy. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I can't see the results unless I respond. Can't respond because none has been found. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the hyperaldosteronism group: How big is your adrenal tumor(s)? o 1 - 2 mm o 3 - 4 mm o 5 - 6 mm o 7 - 8 mm o 9 mm o 1 cm o 2 cm o 3 cm o 4 cm o 5 cm o 6 cm o 7 cm o 8 cm o 9 cm o > 10 cm To vote, please visit the following web page: hyperaldosteronism/surveys?id=2239439 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the web site listed above. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Sorry Val, it doesn't give me an option to change that. I'll leave it open for 1 week and then have the results sent to the group site. a From: Valarie <val@...>Subject: RE: New poll for hyperaldosteronismhyperaldosteronism Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:58 AM I can't see the results unless I respond. Can't respond because none has been found. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the hyperaldosteronism group:How big is your adrenal tumor(s)? o 1 - 2 mm o 3 - 4 mm o 5 - 6 mm o 7 - 8 mm o 9 mm o 1 cm o 2 cm o 3 cm o 4 cm o 5 cm o 6 cm o 7 cm o 8 cm o 9 cm o > 10 cm To vote, please visit the following web page:hyperaldosteronism/surveys?id=2239439 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the web site listed above.Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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