Guest guest Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Maybe the silver in this dark cloud is the possibility that people will start growing and eating and cooking their own health food. farmer markets, community gardens, et al. and freezing out the big pharmXXX. for example; A simple generic sea silver (commerical vitamin and mineral company) is a combination of aloe vera, cranberry juice (organic is preferred) and kelp. Soak oats in distilled water overnight. Use the oats for breakfast and add the water to the generic sea silver. And of course fermneted foods; like saurekraut, kefir, yogurts and Kombucha Tea ! Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 - Maybe the silver in this dark cloud is the possibility that people will start growing and eating and cooking their own health food. farmer markets, community gardens, et al. and freezing out the big pharmXXX. Sounds like a good idea but according to the information online about CODEX ,all foods will come under their rule. All organic foods will be banned, all herbs can not be sold as food, garlic, mint will no longer be allowed for sale and illegal to grow. All Organic Foods will be illegal all animal feed Will contain antibiotics and growth hormone all GMO foods will no longer be labled, all homeopathic, food source vitamins, aloe vera and the list goes on, will be illegal. Most people I know don't believe this will ever happen. Ed, I'd love to see your idea be true, I don't believe that is practical for most people. Since under CODEX we won't be able to buy organic at the farmers markets where will all the people go to get their foods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2005 Report Share Posted June 23, 2005 I called my senators and my representative. I'm in tears, this really panics me. I worked to help pass the DSHEA back in 1994, and I did a lot of work on the USDA organic standards issue. I began buying as much organic food as I could in the 1970s and have remained committed to that ever since; my goal was to help establish a market for organic and I know that has been a worthwhile activism. Please, everyone in the USA, call your senators and representative. Let them know you are extremely upset by this prospect. There's no time for ambivalence. (People in other countries would do well to research what your country is doing on this issue.) Be sure to talk about the fact that the DSHEA has enormous support among the people of the US, that you depend on the freedoms established in the Act, and that you have had no opportunity to have input into this change. Tell the person answering the phone that you want the senator or representative to do something to stop this (because this is not actually a legislative issue... the Codex thing is going through on the executive branch with no legislative input-- an endrun around DSHEA). I told each person, because I was struggling to keep from crying, that the reason I'm so upset about this is that it hits me on a survival level. I would not be alive if I didn't have free access to nutritional supplements and organic food. And, beyond my own personal health, I don't believe that our species has a chance to survive unless we turn to organics on every level. -- At 03:24 PM 6/22/2005, you wrote: >http://newswithviews.com/guest_opinion/guest60.htm > >KISS YOUR VITAMINS GOODBYE! > > > >By Dr. Carolyn Dean >June 19, 2005 >NewsWithViews.com >The U.S. Delegation to Codex has just issued a formal written statement to >the Codex Alimentarius Commission that the United States, during the July >4-9, 2005, meeting in Rome, will support compulsory rules created by this >international organization directly overruling U.S. law regarding access to >vitamins. >The U.S. law that is about to be vanquished is the Dietary Supplement, >Health and Education Act of 1994. Codex is a joint venture between the >United Nation's World Health Organization and Food and Agriculture >Organization. (WHO/FAO) The World Trade Organization (WTO) has already >stated that it will enforce Codex " guidelines " as the world standard for >trade in dietary supplements. This will mean that gradually, pill-by-pill, >our access to the dietary supplements we depend on will disappear. >For those not familiar with the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act >of 1994, it was passed because 2.5 million ordinary citizens wanted to make >sure dietary supplements such as herbs, vitamins, minerals and other >food-based supplements could stay on the over-the-counter market. Movement >to create this law, known as DSHEA, started when a 1992 FDA task force >published a report announcing the FDA's desire to remove these products from >the shelves as they represented a " disincentive for patented drug research " . >Immediately following this announcement, millions of Americans learned about >how famed vitamin doctor, 's patient-filled medical office >was raided the same month by nearly two-dozen gun-toting, flak-jacketed FDA >agents in the name of regulating supplements. Battering down an unlocked >office door, these agents, backed by burly sheriff's department deputies, >lined up staff and patients against the wall, pulled IVs from patients arms >in middle of treatments, confiscated patient records, took the hard drive >from the office computer all because Dr. was using >nutritional supplements to heal very sick people who could not get help from >standard allopathic medical care. >As the story developed, it turned out that this Gestapo-style raid was >standard operating procedure for the FDA and as the general public became >aware of just how many doctors' offices, manufacturing companies, >distributors and health food stores had been assaulted by similar raids, the >horror of all this forged a mighty health freedom army that resulted in >unanimous passage of DSHEA. >The idea of the law was two-fold: >1. DSHEA was to make a clear distinction between FOOD, which is considered >generally safe and did not need to have permission from the FDA to be >allowed on the market and DRUGS, which are generally toxic, potentially >deadly and in need of lengthy evaluation before they were available to the >public under prescription from a doctor. >2. DSHEA provides the FDA with plenty of legal authority to remove herbs or >dietary supplements from the market providing the agency has plenty of REAL >evidence of REAL harm to the public. The FDA also has the authority to limit >the amount of a supplement to low levels IF the agency has plenty of REAL >evidence to prove higher levels ARE ACTUALLY dangerous. >The FDA and its Big Pharma backers have never liked DSHEA because these >products and the related natural healing arts services often related to them >are putting the allopathic drug/surgical/chemical medical industry to shame. >In my book, Death by Modern Medicine, using the allopathic medical industry's >own official reports, I document how 784,000 people die every year in the >American medical system while following doctors' orders in a >highly-regulated allopathic system. The proof that dietary supplements and >the practitioners who promote them are safe and work as expected is >evidenced everywhere. Studies conducted all over the world have shown that >supplements are actually safer than food and there is simply no hard >evidence to show there is ANY risk factor worthy of discussion, much less >needing universal " risk assessment " . >Yet, the U.S. Delegation, along with its Big Pharma backers are bound and >determined that Codex force " risk analysis assessments " upon the American >dietary supplement industry so they can bypass the expressed will of the >American people. > >The REAL reason for promotion of " risk assessment " is based on two agendas. >First, to be able to strip the over-the-counter marketplace of everything >but low quality, low dose-level products that won't do much to support or >improve health. Second, to set up the framework to allow Big Pharma to take >over the supplement market as a new form of drugs where prices can be jacked >up outrageously and doled out by doctors for a fee. > >UNDERSTAND THIS: If you do not ACT NOW, you and everyone you love, will be >condemned to living under an international law that denies your basic right >to maintain your health. WITHOUT HEALTH, YOU HAVE NO FREEDOM! >ACT NOW! www.friendsoffreedominternational.org >Related Article: >Codex Alimentaris Ends US Supplements in June 2005 >© 2005 - Dr > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 To all that have been reading about Codex. This came from my brother that works for Shakley. They don't seem to be a bit worried and there are many hoaxes going around the Internet. Hi sis: This is what we found about CODEX: This is from the Shaklee Corp. See ya soon. Clarifying CODEX Concerns Misinformation about CODEX is making the rounds via emails and the Internet. Consumers should be wary of assertions that imply or state that the demise of the dietary supplement industry is imminent, since it is not true. Be particularly guarded about emails and websites soliciting donations or financial contributions to purportedly “fight†CODEX. Legitimate, qualified experts, who participate in and follow the CODEX process, keep us informed on decisions that affect the dietary supplement business. There are no reasons for concern or for a “call to action†for the foreseeable future. Should there be, you may rest assured that we will keep the Field posted. In the meantime, let us address the most egregious examples of misinformation found in the communications circulating on the Internet: ALLEGATION: " Your right to choose your vitamin, mineral and other supplements may end in June of this year (2005). " FACT: The Commission meets in July, not June. Participants representing dietary supplement manufacturers and marketers will work to assure approval of the Vitamin and Mineral Supplement Guideline that was promoted to Step 8 in Bonn, Germany in November 2004. ALLEGATION: " After that [June 2005] U.S. supplements will be defined and controlled by the World Trade Organization (WTO) and the World Health Organization (WHO). FACT: This statement has no basis in fact. CODEX guidelines will be recognized by the WTO as an international trade standard. CODEX and WTO do not set domestic standards for any country, including the United States of America, unless that country chooses to model its laws and regulations on the CODEX document. ALLEGATION: " CODEX drastically restricts vitamins, minerals, herbs and other supplements. " FACT: Most countries in the world have for a long time restricted vitamin and mineral supplements to low multiples of the RDA. This is the reason they have fought against CODEX guidelines including maximums potentially higher than that currently allowed. ALLEGATION: " CODEX now applies to Norway and Germany, among others.... " FACT: CODEX guidelines on supplements have not been approved. When approved, implementation is likely to take a couple of years or more. Norway and Germany, among others, have long had restrictive supplement regulations. CODEX did not create those restrictions, but is likely to relax them. In summary, we are fully aware of the CODEX process and are following it carefully. We will keep the Field posted on any developments that affect our business and the businesses of our Distributors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Thank you for the information. Hopefully all the facts will get sorted out and those of us who would not survive without our supplements can breath a sigh of relief. The online sites that quote the potential problem are sound and there are many now claiming the July meeting in Rome to be fact. Please, those of you who are in the field of alternative health, I would like to hear your opinions if you've looked into this matter. Kathann To all that have been reading about Codex. This came from my brother that works for Shakley. They don't seem to be a bit worried and there are many hoaxes going around the Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Yes, I would certainly like to believe there is nothing to be concerned about. Is there anyone on this list who knows more about what is going on? -- At 06:26 PM 6/24/2005, you wrote: >Thank you for the information. Hopefully all the facts will get >sorted out and those of us who would not survive without our >supplements can breath a sigh of relief. >The online sites that quote the potential problem are sound and >there are many now claiming the July meeting in Rome to be >fact. >Please, those of you who are in the field of alternative health, I >would like to hear your opinions if you've looked into this matter. > >Kathann ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 You are very welcome. I was really concerned and so I wrote both my Senators and Representatives. They all concurred that they are watching very closely and so far it looks okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 The US government has been trying to ban vitamins for many years, which causes an annual uproar. If they can get away with this they WILL get away with this, but I would hope that Americans will stay true to form and raise a fuss about it. Re: OT - KISS YOUR VITAMINS GOODBYE! > Yes, I would certainly like to believe there is nothing to be concerned > about. Is there anyone on this list who knows more about what is going > on? > > -- > > At 06:26 PM 6/24/2005, you wrote: >>Thank you for the information. Hopefully all the facts will get >>sorted out and those of us who would not survive without our >>supplements can breath a sigh of relief. >>The online sites that quote the potential problem are sound and >>there are many now claiming the July meeting in Rome to be >>fact. >>Please, those of you who are in the field of alternative health, I >>would like to hear your opinions if you've looked into this matter. >> >>Kathann > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > --A.J. Muste > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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