Re: Oprah show - guests Dr. Mehmet Oz & Dr. Rosen - about a lifestyle change for losing weight

[Guest guest]

hi jen !

i also watched oprah the other day when she had oz and roisen on the

show. now though, there has been a big run on 'the owners manual'

at the library, so i couldnt get that book yesterday. oh well, i

will get it in the future. the library does not have 'on a diet'

though, so i might have to buy that one. the both look like great

books. i also heard about the discovery program about 'on a diet'

but i dont get the channel so i couldnt watch it i really wanted

to! hopefully they will put it on dvd in the future and i can

rent it.

dr oz. is also the guy who did the 'real age makeover' which is also

quite interesting. i watched a dvd presentation that dr oz did for

'real age makeover' during which he explained what high blood

pressure was and a host of other ailments, and how to reduce/prevent

them. that was quite enlightening and i made my dh watch it

because he was suffering from high blood pressure at the time.

surprisingly, he seemed to enjoy the show and has made a few changes

which the dr advised. i took the 'real age makeover' quiz on the

internet and came out a few years younger than my chronological age,

which was nice. so, anyway, i agree that what these 2 doctors say

is very very interesting and i want to learn more from them.

:*carolyn.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen,

I don't usually watch Oprah but it's funny because I had another person suggest YOU: the Owner's manual to me just recently. I got it in from another library to take a look at it. I have heard about the waist measurement being more important than the waist to hip ratio in the book Releasing Fat by Dr. Jay Strand. He suggests a low glycemic eating plan. I've also read that belly fat is due to stress/cortisol, so I can see where it would be very bad for a person. Interesting to read that it causes further damage by releasing toxins into the liver.

I've read the waist measurement is to be taken an inch below the belly button and over the illiac crest, is this where they suggest as well? I'm going to be over 32"; I just know it.

What kind of plan do Drs. Mehmet Oz and Rosen suggest you do to get rid of the belly fat?

Thanks for the informative post.

Kerry

Jen wrote:

On Thursday I watched the beginning of the Oprah show because she had on Drs. Mehmet Oz and Rosen, they wrote the book "YOU: The Owner's Manual." and discussed health and nutrition. Now they have written another book entitled "YOU: On a diet," but it really isn't a "diet" it's a lifestyle change. I haven't had a chance to watch the whole show yet but I did watch the Discovery Health challenge's program about their new book on Friday night.

Dr. Oz said that your waist size is more important than your weight. He said that men should have a waist size of 35" or less and that women should have a waist size of 32" or less..... He explained that excess fat around the belly is "fed" to the liver and causes it to release toxins into the body.

It was a very interesting program and I'm going to start measuring my stomach every Saturday, but I will continue to weigh myself everyday and post my weight on Mondays.

Anyone else watch the programs?

Jen

[Guest guest]

Hi Carolyn, I also watched the real age show and I

liked it very much as well. I also get the real age

newsletter online, it's pretty cool. When I took the

test I was a little younger than my age too probably

because I don't smoke and am pretty healthy except of

being over-weight.

I think that you can order " YOU: On a Diet "

through the discovery health channel online. I might

order it and I'm hoping to order the owner's manual as

well.

I liked what the Drs' said about waist-size it

made a lot of sense. Of course it would probably also

depend on how tall/stocky the person is... but I think

they give GREAT advice! I especially like Dr. Oz's

tactic of showing people healthy organs and organs

from obese people, very effective.

Jen

--- Festival City Concrete <pvisser@...> wrote:

> hi jen !

> i also watched oprah the other day when she had oz

> and roisen on the

> show. now though, there has been a big run on 'the

> owners manual'

> at the library, so i couldnt get that book

> yesterday. oh well, i

> will get it in the future. the library does not

> have 'on a diet'

> though, so i might have to buy that one. the both

> look like great

> books. i also heard about the discovery program

> about 'on a diet'

> but i dont get the channel so i couldnt watch it

> i really wanted

> to! hopefully they will put it on dvd in the

> future and i can

> rent it.

>

> dr oz. is also the guy who did the 'real age

> makeover' which is also

> quite interesting. i watched a dvd presentation

> that dr oz did for

> 'real age makeover' during which he explained what

> high blood

> pressure was and a host of other ailments, and how

> to reduce/prevent

> them. that was quite enlightening and i made my dh

> watch it

> because he was suffering from high blood pressure at

> the time.

> surprisingly, he seemed to enjoy the show and has

> made a few changes

> which the dr advised. i took the 'real age

> makeover' quiz on the

> internet and came out a few years younger than my

> chronological age,

> which was nice. so, anyway, i agree that what

> these 2 doctors say

> is very very interesting and i want to learn more

> from them.

>

> :*carolyn.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kerry, actually Dr. Oz told people to measure

right at their belly-button, I guess so that everyone

will measure in the same place each time.

I watched the Discovery Health channel's show

about " YOU: On a Diet, " but it didn't go into all of

the specifics. It said to throw out all hydronogized

oils/foods...the Drs' went through the participants

ref. and threw out all of the " bad " food. They also

told them to do cardio for 30 minutes everyday and to

do resistance training (just body weight not using

wgts) three days a week... but that is for people that

are very obese and don't exercise or are beginners

etc...

When Oprah shows it again you should watch it. Can

you get the Discovery Health Channel?

Take care and I'm glad you enjoyed my post,

Jen

P.S. my belly fat is from stress and from not

exercising enough...and my waist is definately over

32 "

--- Kerry Kramer <kerrykramer@...> wrote:

> Hi Jen,

> I don't usually watch Oprah but it's funny because I

> had another person suggest YOU: the Owner's manual

> to me just recently. I got it in from another

> library to take a look at it. I have heard about

> the waist measurement being more important than the

> waist to hip ratio in the book Releasing Fat by Dr.

> Jay Strand. He suggests a low glycemic eating plan.

> I've also read that belly fat is due to

> stress/cortisol, so I can see where it would be very

> bad for a person. Interesting to read that it

> causes further damage by releasing toxins into the

> liver.

> I've read the waist measurement is to be taken an

> inch below the belly button and over the illiac

> crest, is this where they suggest as well? I'm

> going to be over 32 " ; I just know it.

> What kind of plan do Drs. Mehmet Oz and

> Rosen suggest you do to get rid of the belly fat?

> Thanks for the informative post.

> Kerry

>

> Jen wrote:

> On Thursday I watched the beginning of the

> Oprah show because she had on Drs. Mehmet Oz and

> Rosen, they wrote the book " YOU: The Owner's

> Manual. " and discussed health and nutrition. Now

> they have written another book entitled " YOU: On a

> diet, " but it really isn't a " diet " it's a lifestyle

> change. I haven't had a chance to watch the

> whole show yet but I did watch the Discovery Health

> challenge's program about their new book on Friday

> night.

>

> Dr. Oz said that your waist size is more

> important than your weight. He said that men should

> have a waist size of 35 " or less and that women

> should have a waist size of 32 " or less..... He

> explained that excess fat around the belly is " fed "

> to the liver and causes it to release toxins into

> the body.

>

> It was a very interesting program and I'm

> going to start measuring my stomach every Saturday,

> but I will continue to weigh myself everyday and

> post my weight on Mondays.

>

> Anyone else watch the programs?

>

> Jen

[Guest guest]

from Michigan wrote:

> I think that you can order " YOU: On a Diet "

> through the discovery health channel online. I might

> order it and I'm hoping to order the owner's manual as

> well.

oh, amazon has them. then you can get free shipping.

> I especially like Dr. Oz's

> tactic of showing people healthy organs and organs

> from obese people, very effective.

yes, that is so interesting to me. did you see that organ that he

showed on oprah? the thing that comes off of the stomach and

processes fat? whoa, that was shocking and really explains what is

behind the 'pot belly'.

:*carolyn.

[Guest guest]

Yeah it's called the "omentum" probably spelled wrong, LOL That organ was from a person only 30 to 40 lbs over-weight, imagine someone 100 lbs over-weight! JenFestival City Concrete <pvisser@...> wrote: from Michigan wrote:> I think that you can

order "YOU: On a Diet"> through the discovery health channel online. I might> order it and I'm hoping to order the owner's manual as> well. oh, amazon has them. then you can get free shipping.> I especially like Dr. Oz's> tactic of showing people healthy organs and organs> from obese people, very effective.yes, that is so interesting to me. did you see that organ that he showed on oprah? the thing that comes off of the stomach and processes fat? whoa, that was shocking and really explains what is behind the 'pot belly'.:*carolyn.

[Guest guest]

I watched it and absolutely loved it. I was chatting with my DH while I was watching it and kept telling him how they were using a lot of gimmicks and scare tactics with showing the diseased body parts, but they were doing it to promote what I think were all very valid points that as a trainer I've been promoting for the last 10 years. I'm just glad to see that they are pushing exercise. I loved the "only 4 exercises you ever need", walk, cardio, strength training, and flexibilty. LOL

Tonya

Oprah show - guests Dr. Mehmet Oz & Dr. Rosen - about a lifestyle change for losing weight

On Thursday I watched the beginning of the Oprah show because she had on Drs. Mehmet Oz and Rosen, they wrote the book "YOU: The Owner's Manual." and discussed health and nutrition. Now they have written another book entitled "YOU: On a diet," but it really isn't a "diet" it's a lifestyle change. I haven't had a chance to watch the whole show yet but I did watch the Discovery Health challenge's program about their new book on Friday night.

Dr. Oz said that your waist size is more important than your weight. He said that men should have a waist size of 35" or less and that women should hav less..... He explained that excess fat around the belly is "fed" to the liver and causes it to release toxins into the body.

It was a very interesting program and I'm going to start measuring my stomach every Saturday, but I will continue to weigh myself everyday and post my weight on Mondays.

Anyone else watch the programs?

Jen

[Guest guest]

I can't wait to see the show now. According to the online schedule it comes on again on the 17th or 19th. I'll be sure to catch it then.

Kerry

Jen wrote:

Yeah it's called the "omentum" probably spelled wrong, LOL

That organ was from a person only 30 to 40 lbs over-weight, imagine someone 100 lbs over-weight!

Jen

[Guest guest]

Kerry,Can you try to send an e-mail to the group as a reminder when it comes on again. I'd love to watch it too. Thanks.DarcyOn 11/6/06,

Kerry Kramer <kerrykramer@...> wrote:

I can't wait to see the show now. According to the online schedule it comes on again on the 17th or 19th. I'll be sure to catch it then.

Kerry

Jen wrote:

Yeah it's called the " omentum " probably spelled wrong, LOL

That organ was from a person only 30 to 40 lbs over-weight, imagine someone 100 lbs over-weight!

Jen

[Guest guest]

Sure! It comes on Nov the 17th at 8:00 pm and at 11:00 pm and Nov 19 at 2:00 pm. But I'll send a reminder to the list. I'm going to put it in my events calendar so I get a reminder when I turn on the computer.

Kerry

Kerry,Can you try to send an e-mail to the group as a reminder when it comes on again. I'd love to watch it too. Thanks.Darcy

[Guest guest]

Kerry,

I haven't read their books, but I don't agree with the glycemic index. It was designed for diabetics, not everyone else. As for cortisol, it only effects 2% of the population. The rest of us are just fat from following the wrong eating and exercise plan. As for waist measurement, I do it a little different for my clients. This is a trick I was taught during a certification so that we know we're measuring at the same spot every time. Bend and the waist and find the exact spot of the bend (this requires a little poking around to feel it) and use that as your measurement spot. Some people have higher belly buttons then others, so while an ince below the belly button may be the waist for some, it may be the closer to the hips for others. With the bend, it is dependant on spinal articulation and is not going to move if you gain or lose significant amounts of weight. (Yes, I've seen belly buttons hang in the saggy skin of people who've lost a bunch of weight.) As for their plan, what I saw on Oprah that day was a lot less then is recommended by the ACSM, which is the gold standard in personal training. Their recommendations were closer to the surgeon generals recommendations to maintain health.

Tonya

Re: Oprah show - guests Dr. Mehmet Oz & Dr. Rosen - about a lifestyle change for losing weight

Hi Jen,

I don't usually watch Oprah but it's funny because I had another person suggest YOU: the Owner's manual to me just recently. I got it in from another library to take a look at it. I have heard about the waist measurement being more important than the waist to hip ratio in the book Releasing Fat by Dr. Jay Strand. He suggests a low glycemic eating plan. I've also read that belly fat is due to stress/cortisol, so I can see where it would be very bad for a person. Interesting to read that it causes further damage by releasing toxins into the liver.

I've read the waist measurement is to be taken an inch below the belly button and over the illiac crest, is this where they suggest as well? I'm going to be over 32"; I just know it.

What kind of plan do Drs. Mehmet Oz and Rosen suggest you do to get rid of the belly fat?

Thanks for the informative post.

Kerry

Jen wrote:

On Thursday I watched the beginning of the Oprah show because she had on Drs. Mehmet Oz and Rosen, they wrote the book "YOU: The Owner's Manual." and discussed health and nutrition. Now they have written another book entitled "YOU: On a diet," but it really isn't a "diet" it's a lifestyle change. I haven't had a chance to watch the whole show yet but I did watch the Discovery Health challenge's program about their new book on Friday night.

Dr. Oz said that your waist size is more important than your weight. He said that men should have a waist size of 35" or less and that women should have a waist size of 32" or less..... He explained that excess fat around the belly is "fed" to the liver and causes it to release toxins into the body.

It was a very interesting program and I'm going to start measuring my stomach every Saturday, but I will continue to weigh myself everyday and post my weight on Mondays.

Anyone else watch the programs?

Jen

[Guest guest]

What does the ACSM require compared to the surgeon

generals recommendations?

I thought the YOU on a diet plan called for 10,000

steps a day, another cardio workout, strength training

3 days a week and flexibility.

Jen

--- Tonya - <mslightning@...>

wrote:

> Kerry,

>

> I haven't read their books, but I don't agree with

> the glycemic index. It was designed for diabetics,

> not everyone else. As for cortisol, it only effects

> 2% of the population. The rest of us are just fat

> from following the wrong eating and exercise plan.

> As for waist measurement, I do it a little different

> for my clients. This is a trick I was taught during

> a certification so that we know we're measuring at

> the same spot every time. Bend and the waist and

> find the exact spot of the bend (this requires a

> little poking around to feel it) and use that as

> your measurement spot. Some people have higher

> belly buttons then others, so while an ince below

> the belly button may be the waist for some, it may

> be the closer to the hips for others. With the

> bend, it is dependant on spinal articulation and is

> not going to move if you gain or lose significant

> amounts of weight. (Yes, I've seen belly buttons

> hang in the saggy skin of people who've lost a bunch

> of weight.) As for their plan, what I saw on Oprah

> that day was a lot less then is recommended by the

> ACSM, which is the gold standard in personal

> training. Their recommendations were closer to the

> surgeon generals recommendations to maintain health.

>

> Tonya

> Re: Oprah show - guests

> Dr. Mehmet Oz & Dr. Rosen - about a

> lifestyle change for losing weight

>

>

>

> Hi Jen,

> I don't usually watch Oprah but it's funny because

> I had another person suggest YOU: the Owner's manual

> to me just recently. I got it in from another

> library to take a look at it. I have heard about

> the waist measurement being more important than the

> waist to hip ratio in the book Releasing Fat by Dr.

> Jay Strand. He suggests a low glycemic eating plan.

> I've also read that belly fat is due to

> stress/cortisol, so I can see where it would be very

> bad for a person. Interesting to read that it

> causes further damage by releasing toxins into the

> liver.

> I've read the waist measurement is to be taken an

> inch below the belly button and over the illiac

> crest, is this where they suggest as well? I'm

> going to be over 32 " ; I just know it.

> What kind of plan do Drs. Mehmet Oz and

> Rosen suggest you do to get rid of the belly fat?

> Thanks for the informative post.

> Kerry

>

> Jen wrote:

> On Thursday I watched the beginning of the

> Oprah show because she had on Drs. Mehmet Oz and

> Rosen, they wrote the book " YOU: The Owner's

> Manual. " and discussed health and nutrition. Now

> they have written another book entitled " YOU: On a

> diet, " but it really isn't a " diet " it's a lifestyle

> change. I haven't had a chance to watch the

> whole show yet but I did watch the Discovery Health

> challenge's program about their new book on Friday

> night.

>

> Dr. Oz said that your waist size is more

> important than your weight. He said that men should

> have a waist size of 35 " or less and that women

> should have a waist size of 32 " or less..... He

> explained that excess fat around the belly is " fed "

> to the liver and causes it to release toxins into

> the body.

>

> It was a very interesting program and I'm

> going to start measuring my stomach every Saturday,

> but I will continue to weigh myself everyday and

> post my weight on Mondays.

>

> Anyone else watch the programs?

>

> Jen

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had heard that the glycemic index was taken on an empty stomach and just for that one food only, which would change if you ate other foods along with it. I thought the cortisol was an everybody thing. Here I was blaming my lower belly on stress, you mean I can't do that anymore?! LOL! I like your idea on finding the waist.

Thanks,

Kerry

Tonya wrote:

Kerry,

I haven't read their books, but I don't agree with the glycemic index. It was designed for diabetics, not everyone else. As for cortisol, it only effects 2% of the population. The rest of us are just fat from following the wrong eating and exercise plan. As for waist measurement, I do it a little different for my clients. This is a trick I was taught during a certification so that we know we're measuring at the same spot every time. Bend and the waist and find the exact spot of the bend (this requires a little poking around to feel it) and use that as your measurement spot. Some people have higher belly buttons then others, so while an ince below the belly button may be the waist for some, it may be the closer to the hips for others. With the bend, it is dependant on spinal articulation and is not going to move if you gain or lose significant amounts of weight. (Yes, I've seen belly buttons hang in the saggy skin of people who've lost a bunch of weight.) As for their plan, what I saw on Oprah that day was a lot less then is recommended by the ACSM, which is the gold standard in personal training. Their recommendations were closer to the surgeon generals recommendations to maintain health.

Tonya