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Hi all,

I have a friend over right now and we are in the kitchen makin' away. She

just saved a dog who has itchy skin. It itches her so bad she scratches and

bites at herself. That is why they were going to put her down. Anyway, I

thought I'd ask all of you if you have any ideas for a balm for the dog. I

am thinking of an olive oil base maybe with tea tree oil and lavender, or????

I'd appreciate any help. Thanks!

Sage

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sage,

I would try also some chamomile. Have you tried any of the OTC cortizone

cremes for a temporary relief? My goodness even go to a vet and just get the

dog a shot of cortizone for relief. I can't believe in putting a dog down

due to itchy. There is a reason for it. Once you get to the reason the

itchy will go away. But until then just to get the dog some relief please

don't put the dog down because of that.

Also there are oatmeal baths that are on the market that help with dogs itchy

skins. You could probably even make one up. Look at like Petsmart and see

whats in them.

Cate

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In a message dated 2/8/03 6:15:46 PM Central Standard Time, Yaaruln@...

writes:

> Hi all,

> I have a friend over right now and we are in the kitchen makin' away. She

> just saved a dog who has itchy skin. It itches her so bad she scratches

> and

> bites at herself. That is why they were going to put her down. Anyway, I

> thought I'd ask all of you if you have any ideas for a balm for the dog. I

>

> am thinking of an olive oil base maybe with tea tree oil and lavender,

> or????

> I'd appreciate any help. Thanks!

>

Hi Sage,

Did the dog have a skin scraping done to see if it is mange? If it is mange,

there are two types. One is very contagious, the other is only contagious to

others with a supressed immune system..

One natural treatment for dogs with mange, the second version, is sweet

almond oil with Lavender eo mixed 10:1. Cover the dog with it and leave it

on. Actually, it will probably absorb most of it. Bathe the next day. The

best is a benzoil peroxide type shampoo that will help bring the mites up and

out of the hair follicles. Follow up care should be provided by a vet.

Another culprit could be an allergy. Dogs with severe food allergies will

itch, get hot spots....... pretty much everything you are describing. Pro

Plan (available at PetSmart....) is not too expensive and offers a sensitive

skin/sensitive stomach formula made primarily of salmon and barley. Some

dogs can not handle any grains. Main allergens for dogs are corn, wheat,

beef, some are even allergic to lamb and rice which is usually prescribed for

food allergies.

If I had the dog, I would feed it some canned salmon and boiled ground

chicken or turkey with some cooked boiled rice for a couple of days. The

salmon will give the dog much needed EFA's and probably will not cause an

allergic reaction. The boiled ground chicken and brown rice are usually not

allergens, but anything can be. That is where I would start to see if it

could be a food allergy. Then I would move the dog to the Pro Plan and see

how it does.

Also, when doing an elimination diet, please consider any dog biscuits or

treats as most have wheat and beef in them. Good luck and e-mail me

privately if you have more questions, I have great resources to help with

dogs and will be glad to help however I can.

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In a message dated 2/8/03 4:49:00 PM Alaskan Standard Time,

Cates3Gems@... writes:

> But until then just to get the dog some relief please

> don't put the dog down because of that.

>

Oh, no, she will not put the dog down. She got the dog because it was going

to be put down because of this problem. She rescued it. Nonetheless, her

finances are limited, so it is a problem. The vet did some scrapings and

thinks it is allergies. She is feeding the dog a special diet from the vet

which is rice, something I cannot remember, and tuna fish. I thought the

fish was a bit odd. We will make up the things you all are so generous to

suggest and try them one by one or perhaps on different parts of her body.

Sage

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Hi Sage,

I'd get the vet to do skin scrapings to see what is causing it. It can be

anything from a thyroid condition to skin mites or mange. And the

treatments would be very, very different.

Lanacaine can be used temporarily, but your friend needs to find out what

it is before you get into treatment?

Well, Naturally

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At 06:59 PM 2/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi all,

>I have a friend over right now and we are in the kitchen makin' away. She

>just saved a dog who has itchy skin. It itches her so bad she scratches and

>bites at herself. That is why they were going to put her down. Anyway, I

>thought I'd ask all of you if you have any ideas for a balm for the dog. I

>am thinking of an olive oil base maybe with tea tree oil and lavender, or????

> I'd appreciate any help. Thanks!

>

>

>Sage

>

>

>

>

>

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Sage: Look into an allergy.....Holly

On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 19:27:09 EST Cates3Gems@... writes:

> sage,

> I would try also some chamomile. Have you tried any of the OTC

> cortizone

> cremes for a temporary relief? My goodness even go to a vet and

> just get the

> dog a shot of cortizone for relief. I can't believe in putting a

> dog down

> due to itchy. There is a reason for it. Once you get to the reason

> the

> itchy will go away. But until then just to get the dog some relief

> please

> don't put the dog down because of that.

> Also there are oatmeal baths that are on the market that help with

> dogs itchy

> skins. You could probably even make one up. Look at like Petsmart

> and see

> whats in them.

> Cate

>

>

>

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In a message dated 2/8/03 4:48:53 PM Alaskan Standard Time,

maryr@... writes:

> I'd get the vet to do skin scrapings to see what is causing it. It can be

> anything from a thyroid condition to skin mites or mange. And the

> treatments would be very, very different.

>

>

I wish I was confident that the vet had done a thorough job of evaluating

everything possible in the scrapings. I have no real reason to doubt it, but

still do for some reason. I will pass on the thyroid info. I don't know if

they tested for that. Unfortunately, the bottom line is that she saved this

dog from being put down but will not have the resources to have every test

done that might be helpful. Fortunately, I have lots of supplies and can

make up most any " potion " that may be helpful.

Sage

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Sage: I'm all for tryin some Tea Tree, mixed with a little lite carrier

oil.....Even a bit of Emu oil by its self has healing properties Holly

On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 22:15:05 EST Yaaruln@... writes:

> In a message dated 2/8/03 4:49:00 PM Alaskan Standard Time,

> Cates3Gems@... writes:

>

>

> > But until then just to get the dog some relief please

> > don't put the dog down because of that.

> >

>

> Oh, no, she will not put the dog down. She got the dog because it

> was going

> to be put down because of this problem. She rescued it.

> Nonetheless, her

> finances are limited, so it is a problem. The vet did some

> scrapings and

> thinks it is allergies. She is feeding the dog a special diet from

> the vet

> which is rice, something I cannot remember, and tuna fish. I

> thought the

> fish was a bit odd. We will make up the things you all are so

> generous to

> suggest and try them one by one or perhaps on different parts of her

> body.

>

> Sage

>

>

>

>

>

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If it caused by allergies then do the elimination diet. That is better than

mange. Didn't the vet do a shot of cortizone? I know you don't want to use

that. But for short term one time, it is a wonderful relief for the poor

animal.

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In a message dated 2/8/03 10:39:47 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

holliberry1@... writes:

> > Nonetheless, her

> > finances are limited, so it is a problem. The vet did some

> > scrapings and

> > thinks it is allergies. She is feeding the dog a special diet from

> > the vet

> > which is rice, something I cannot remember, and tuna fish. I

> > thought the

> > fish was a bit odd. We will make up the things you all are so

BTW my little dog was highly allergic to a diet prescribed by one vet. It

had BHA and BHT in it!!!! A preservative in many high priced vet foods. I

didn't know it until I did the elimination and found it was in many many dog

foods. Yes even the pricey ones!

Cate

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