Frappier Acceleration Programs

[Guest guest]

I am wondering if anyone knows anything about this system of

training? It is about increasing vertical jumping ability and

decreasing sprint times in about 6 weeks. It uses a treadmill to

test people on and I guess to train on as well. They use

resistive/assistive cords and machines to develop hip strength. I

don't know their teachings on good form in sprinting or jumping and

am wondering if anyone has encountered the system.

Ezzell

Springfield, Mo

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Ezzell <b_ezze@...> wrote:

> I am wondering if anyone knows anything about this system of

> training? It is about increasing vertical jumping ability and

> decreasing sprint times in about 6 weeks. It uses a treadmill to

> test people on and I guess to train on as well. They use

> resistive/assistive cords and machines to develop hip strength. I

> don't know their teachings on good form in sprinting or jumping and

> am wondering if anyone has encountered the system.

I love this program, however you can do all the excercises they do on

your own but this is just really nice and convenient i just wish i had

one here in california i used to have on iowa and i loved. It helped my

quiet a bit increased my 40 time by .2 and i dunno about verticle i

never tested. They really emphesize good form and core strength, ABs

and lowerback and hip flexors andextendors. The trainer there said it

basically trains your nervous system for any kind of stimulant and

teaches i gues your NS to respond quicker , thats for the treadmill

work. Then thers plyo work where if youve ever done plyos its pretty

much the same thing you used wieghts after awhile. If you need more

info i am not the real discriptive type or need real scientific stuff

just wait for siff, seems really knowledgable havin an MD and all helps

hout too so he/she? probebly get your questions answered.

[Mel Siff: We had a fairly long discussion on many of the myths associated

with Frappier training some months ago - please visit our archives at:

Supertraining/messages ]

Byrnes

San Diego, CA USA

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Byrnes wrote....

<<I love this program, however you can do all the excercises they do on

your own but this is just really nice and convenient i just wish i had

one here in california i used to have on iowa and i loved. It helped my

quiet a bit increased my 40 time by .2>>

If you can just " do all the exercises they do on your own " and get the same

improvement in 40 yd dash time, why use the Frappier system? I just talked

to a football strength coach who did a little informal experiment and found

that the group that performed the same Frappier running protocol using

normal " over ground " running got better improvements in running speed than a

group that trained on the Frappier high speed treadmill. $10,000.00 for a

treadmill that doesn't do anything significantly better (and possibly worse)

than an identical " over ground " program doesn't make much sense to me.

Especially when only one person at a time can be on the treadmill.

Burkhardt

Strength and Conditioning Coach

UC Irvine

[Guest guest]

I was an intern at FAST Program in Boca Raton FL, and we use Frappier

equipment. I liked what we did there. I thought we should have done more

over ground running though. The treadmills are great however. You can

correct specific technical flaws while they are running, train the hip

flexors by having a high elevation while having to run at a good speed. The

rest of the equipment is pretty basic, hip machine, plyo press (a leg press

machine that was big and sturdy enough to do jumps on) and a plyo board with

numbers that you do certain patterns on for agility. This plyo board also

had bands that attached to a harness so you could do resisted jumping. A

couple of unique things that come with the Frappier program are sprint cords

that are bands for resisted running that attach to the thighs and ankles.

The idea is that it resists hip flexion as well as the " grab and pull " part

of the sprint. Also I believe it isn't suppose to change the recruitment

patterns of the sprinting motion. Unlike attaching something to the waist

with a belt or vest. They also have something called throwing cords and

kicking cords. these are similar in concept to the sprint cords. they attach

directly to the upper and lower parts of the arm and leg, respectively, in

order not to alter recruitment patterns. All in all I feel it's a good

system of training. The strength program isn't real big except for the plyo

press and hip machines. If the Frappier site has good coaches than it is a

good place to train. However I have heard that some sites have just " techs "

guys that say when to go and when to stop, but don't coach form and technique

real well. I would recommend FAST in Florida for the best training with

Frappier Equipment.

Shane Steinbach

Texas

[Guest guest]

Yes you can do all t he excercises on your own but you can fix teqnique

while running which is a big benafit and also i noticed that i could

after i finished the program that for example i could run a 100 yard

dash then run an 800m and still have the power left? i dunno if power is

the right word i dont know how to describe it even being layed out over

a period of time with being out of shape i could still run very well.

that may be confusing but im sure if anyone in here has done the program

they understand. it also takes less work i feel to get back into shape

after a layoff.

Its a very good program i think for soccer players who

need to have that extra kick any time this does it b/c in a workout you

could do say a 10 second sprint and hold for 5 seconds which is holding

onto the bar and doing long strides or high knees then do another 10

second sprint and so on like that.

if you would like more information as to what you do i could try and remember

and post it.

Byrnes

San Diego, CA USA

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Burkhardt wrote:

>

> Byrnes wrote....

>

> <<I love this program, however you can do all the excercises they do on

> your own but this is just really nice and convenient i just wish i had

> one here in california i used to have on iowa and i loved. It helped my

> quiet a bit increased my 40 time by .2>>

>

> If you can just " do all the exercises they do on your own " and get the same

> improvement in 40 yd dash time, why use the Frappier system? I just talked

> to a football strength coach who did a little informal experiment and found

> that the group that performed the same Frappier running protocol using

> normal " over ground " running got better improvements in running speed than a

> group that trained on the Frappier high speed treadmill. $10,000.00 for a

> treadmill that doesn't do anything significantly better (and possibly worse)

> than an identical " over ground " program doesn't make much sense to me.

> Especially when only one person at a time can be on the treadmill.

>

> Burkhardt