Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 Sure I would love to see a recipe. I always get a few that want me to make a lotion for them. I find that with the oils that I use it absorbs into the skin very quickly and leaves no shine or waxy feel. I like to use hydrosols to and don't use water in any of them any more. I have Aloe juice that I want to try sometime soon. With out testing I would not trust a cream to last that long. I think you take a big risk. The fact that it tested ok is fine but after you sell it you no longer have control of what is done to it or how it might be contaminated. Chris More on the Lotions & Creams > For Chris > > > I have been making lotions and creams for over a year. I use > Vitamin E and/or Wheat Germ with essential oils. The very first > bottle I made was lab tested at 6 months and was still good. Don't > forget that Essential Oils can preserve as well. My customers can > tell the difference between lotions and creams that have stearic > acid and those that do not. > > To have the Vitamin E and/or Wheat Germ be most effective, it should > added when you add the essential oils. Do not heat with the rest of > the carrier oils. > > However, I do put a disclaimer on my ingredient handouts. > > My formula uses Hydrosols (Floral Waters & Aloe Vera) as the water. > I will post a simple formula if you are interested. > > HTH > > Sharon > > B4 > Bringing aromatherapy into your everyday life > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 Sharon, just out of curiousity, do your customers dislike the way steric acid feels in a lotion? I ask because I am a newbie and have made a few lotions. The ones that contain steric acid I don't like, it leaves my skin feeling " heavy " ? I was wondering if I was imagining things! The amounts didn't seem to be excessive and from the reading I have done, they were in proportion to the ewax. Thanks for the info and have a great day. Leanna in Alberta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 Hi Sharon, Will you please post your formula for your lotion? I've was going to make some but then I began to read about it going bad without some kind of preservative. The recipe I have doesn't call for any so I've been waiting until I can get more info. And what do you say on your disclaimer? Please help!! Thank you so much, > More on the Lotions & Creams > > > > For Chris > > > > > > I have been making lotions and creams for over a year. I use > > Vitamin E and/or Wheat Germ with essential oils. The very first > > bottle I made was lab tested at 6 months and was still good. Don't > > forget that Essential Oils can preserve as well. My customers can > > tell the difference between lotions and creams that have stearic > > acid and those that do not. > > > > To have the Vitamin E and/or Wheat Germ be most effective, it should > > added when you add the essential oils. Do not heat with the rest of > > the carrier oils. > > > > However, I do put a disclaimer on my ingredient handouts. > > > > My formula uses Hydrosols (Floral Waters & Aloe Vera) as the water. > > I will post a simple formula if you are interested. > > > > HTH > > > > Sharon > > > > B4 > > Bringing aromatherapy into your everyday life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 Hi ; Please post the simple recipe. I would like to try it. Jenn Re: More on the Lotions & Creams Hi Sharon, Will you please post your formula for your lotion? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.391 / Virus Database: 222 - Release Date: 9/19/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2002 Report Share Posted September 28, 2002 Hi Jenn, Here it is! I got this one from a site that has the Creating Lotion Workshop, but I can't recall the name of the site. I will look for it and definitely post it. It has ALOT of great information. Standard Base Lotion Recipe ..5 oz. emulsifying wax 2 oz. infused vegetable oil (grapeseed or sweet almond oil are nice light oils) ..5 oz. vegetable glycerine 4.5 oz. distilled water 20-30 drops essential oils (lavender is very nice, try combing it with peppermint, sandalwood or ylang ylang) Directions Weight ingredients....combine wax, oil and glycerine and heat until melted, don't over heat....let cool to around 110 degrees. Warm the water slightly if not room temperature and slowly pour the water into the cooled oils while blending with a stick blender or whisking like crazy....blend for about 2 minutes, let cool and add your essential oils, whip some more. Let the lotion sit until completely room temperature then blend some more before pouring into containers. If you are pouring into lotion containers, you may want to pour the lotion while it is still slightly warm before it thickens more. (The writer also says) " I've chosen to not include a preservative, this is something that I feel you must experiment with and make you own decisions. I have also experimented with using longer shelf life oils such as jojoba, fractionated coconut oil, adding mixed tocopherols (d-alpha Vit. E), (just before poring into bottles), myrrh tincture, benzoic tincture, balm of gilead tincture, etc. and was very happy with the results in most cases. " I have not had the time to try it myself but this is the one that I plan to use. I'll try it just like it is and if I like it then I'll double, triple, etc. the ingredients for a bigger batch. I read somewhere to use 4 drops of the Vit. E oil mentioned above, per 1 pound of oils. Good luck!! Let me know how it turns out for you if you decide to use this recipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2002 Report Share Posted September 28, 2002 If you make creams or lotions you really need to use a preservative of some sort and Vit. E and ROE are not going to do the job. I have a question for the person that said that they had their lotion tested. Did you use it for a week and then have it tested or did you make it and then have it tested? When you use a lotion you contaminate it with every use. As time goes by more and more bacteria grow. Someone has also mentioned using alcohol as a preservative. I am currently checking with a chemist and have talked with others that know a lot more than I. They have said that alcohol could be used as a preservative but you would need so much that it would not feel good or be good from you skin. Reg. alcohol is not meant to be ingested so what ever you absorbed through your skin could make you sick. These are serious things to think about when you consider that you would be using this on a large part of your body. Food for thought. Chris Re: More on the Lotions & Creams > Hi Jenn, > Here it is! I got this one from a site that has the Creating Lotion > Workshop, but I can't recall the name of the site. I will look for it and > definitely post it. It has ALOT of great information. > > Standard Base Lotion Recipe > .5 oz. emulsifying wax > 2 oz. infused vegetable oil (grapeseed or sweet almond oil are nice light > oils) > .5 oz. vegetable glycerine > 4.5 oz. distilled water > 20-30 drops essential oils (lavender is very nice, try combing it with > peppermint, sandalwood or ylang ylang) > > Directions > Weight ingredients....combine wax, oil and glycerine and heat until melted, > don't over heat....let cool to around 110 degrees. Warm the water slightly > if not room temperature and slowly pour the water into the cooled oils while > blending with a stick blender or whisking like crazy....blend for about 2 > minutes, let cool and add your essential oils, whip some more. Let the > lotion sit until completely room temperature then blend some more before > pouring into containers. If you are pouring into lotion containers, you may > want to pour the lotion while it is still slightly warm before it thickens > more. > > (The writer also says) " I've chosen to not include a preservative, this is > something that I feel you must experiment with and make you own decisions. I > have also experimented with using longer shelf life oils such as jojoba, > fractionated coconut oil, adding mixed tocopherols (d-alpha Vit. E), (just > before poring into bottles), myrrh tincture, benzoic tincture, balm of > gilead tincture, etc. and was very happy with the results in most cases. " > > I have not had the time to try it myself but this is the one that I plan to > use. I'll try it just like it is and if I like it then I'll double, triple, > etc. the ingredients for a bigger batch. I read somewhere to use 4 drops of > the Vit. E oil mentioned above, per 1 pound of oils. > > Good luck!! Let me know how it turns out for you if you decide to use this > recipe. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 Hi I was the one who wrote about having the lotion tested. When I make a batch of anything I always keep one or two on the shelf. My products also have a batch number on them. Of the batch that was tested one was sent unused to the lab. I have not used Rosemary Extract but I see that a lot of people do use that. I have tested GSE and have found that it doesn't work very well. I had better luck with the green tea tincture (Vodka & Green Tea leaves) than with GSE. I am constantly looking for new ways to continue to offer Fresh, Chemical Free Skincare to my customers. Sharon > If you make creams or lotions you really need to use a preservative of some > sort and Vit. E and ROE are not going to do the job. I have a question for > the person that said that they had their lotion tested. Did you use it for > a week and then have it tested or did you make it and then have it tested? > When you use a lotion you contaminate it with every use. As time goes by > more and more bacteria grow. Someone has also mentioned using alcohol as a > preservative. I am currently checking with a chemist and have talked with > others that know a lot more than I. They have said that alcohol could be > used as a preservative but you would need so much that it would not feel > good or be good from you skin. Reg. alcohol is not meant to be ingested so > what ever you absorbed through your skin could make you sick. These are > serious things to think about when you consider that you would be using this > on a large part of your body. Food for thought. > Chris > ----- Original Message ----- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 If it was unused I can see why it would come back neg. for bacteria. Try next time using it for a week then send it in to be tested. I think you will find that the results will be very different. It is in use that the contamination occurs. While I am all for giving my customers the best products for their skin I also want the safest too. To date I have not come across anything that will be a good substitute for the chemical preservatives that we are now using. Even with these you need to get the right one depending on how much oil and water are in what you are making. I appreciate your response but hope you will go the extra mile in making sure that what you sell is safe. Chris Re: More on the Lotions & Creams > Hi > > I was the one who wrote about having the lotion tested. When I make > a batch of anything I always keep one or two on the shelf. My > products also have a batch number on them. Of the batch that was > tested one was sent unused to the lab. I have not used Rosemary > Extract but I see that a lot of people do use that. I have tested > GSE and have found that it doesn't work very well. I had better luck > with the green tea tincture (Vodka & Green Tea leaves) than with > GSE. I am constantly looking for new ways to continue to offer > Fresh, Chemical Free Skincare to my customers. > > Sharon > > > > > > If you make creams or lotions you really need to use a > preservative of some > > sort and Vit. E and ROE are not going to do the job. I have a > question for > > the person that said that they had their lotion tested. Did you > use it for > > a week and then have it tested or did you make it and then have it > tested? > > When you use a lotion you contaminate it with every use. As time > goes by > > more and more bacteria grow. Someone has also mentioned using > alcohol as a > > preservative. I am currently checking with a chemist and have > talked with > > others that know a lot more than I. They have said that alcohol > could be > > used as a preservative but you would need so much that it would > not feel > > good or be good from you skin. Reg. alcohol is not meant to be > ingested so > > what ever you absorbed through your skin could make you sick. > These are > > serious things to think about when you consider that you would be > using this > > on a large part of your body. Food for thought. > > Chris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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