Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Hi, Can someone explain me the difference between Mimosa, Cassia and Tagetes ? Many thanks, Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 perfumenatural <perfumenatural@...> wrote: Hi Therese Dont know if I have been of any help to you since I am still a beginner...but I enjoy tincture outcome. They are amazing Please let me now if you have any other idea with the Mimosa because I still have some left and want to do something useful with it. Angi Hi Therese and Angi Anya is definately the tincture maven and she often has spoken of the fact of how her jasmine tinctures are as potent as the absolutes.... I think one thought is to be patient and change frequently to build up the intesity .... I know of some tincturers who have built the odour over a few years to the desired aroma. HTH Every good wish, Janita Janita Haan Natural Perfume Flowers of Myddfai project http://www.tiny.cc/flowers817 Janita's Attar http://www.janitasattars.blogspot.com --------------------------------- Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 perfumenatural <perfumenatural@...> wrote: Hi Therese and Janita, >> As for the mimosa infused in alcohol, couple of days later, it seems to have a herbal scent...just have to wait and smell it couple of weeks later. Wish me luck! Angi Def Angi .... don't forget to change the exhausted blossoms often and strain gently before adding new.... & :-D Every good wish, Janita Janita Haan Natural Perfume Flowers of Myddfai project http://www.tiny.cc/flowers817 Janita's Attar http://www.janitasattars.blogspot.com --------------------------------- Sent from & #45; a smarter inbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Janita, How many days should I change the flowers in almond oil and alcohol? Angi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 perfumenatural <perfumenatural@...> wrote: Janita, How many days should I change the flowers in almond oil and alcohol? Angi Hi Angi I really think it depends on the material you are working on at the time... with the mimosa in alcohol just check daily you should get an intuition .... but it could be 1day or more.or less ... just be vigilant... as you don't want the material to go over and spoil the aroma that is building and if you leave it too long it will spoil and it will effect what you are trying to create..... as per oil.... my tinctures have been in alcohol perhaps someone else can help out with raw material here.....when I think of oils and raw materials I somehow think of calendula and st john wort macerating on a kitchen window LOL Every good wish, Janita Janita Haan Natural Perfume Flowers of Myddfai project http://www.tiny.cc/flowers817 Janita's Attar http://www.janitasattars.blogspot.com --------------------------------- Sent from & #45; a smarter inbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Thanks Janita, Get what you say! Just have to check and know what I want to get. Will keep my eye on them and shake, change and shake! Thanks Angi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 perfumenatural <perfumenatural@...> wrote: Thanks Janita, > > Will keep my eye on them and shake, change and shake! Thanks Angi Angi don't forget to give the little darlins time to infuse their aroma LOL *:-D Every good wish, Janita Janita Haan Natural Perfume Flowers of Myddfai project http://www.tiny.cc/flowers817 Janita's Attar http://www.janitasattars.blogspot.com --------------------------------- Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 > As for the mimosa infused in alcohol, couple of days later, it seems > to have a herbal scent...just have to wait and smell it couple of > weeks later. > Angi > Hi Angi, You can sometimes tell when your material is exhausted by the way it looks in its menstruum. Flowers can tend to either go translucent, or they lose their color (so yellow flowers might no longer be yellow; bright purple flowers can turn light pink or white, etc.). Some leaves will give up their color and become light green or nearly white. With dried material (such as cistus leaves, for instance), the tincture itself will become highly colored (deep, dark green in the case of the cistus). And by all means, if the material is looking wilted and tired, or is turning brownish, get it out of there pronto! I hope this helps a little. Cheers! Andrine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Thanks Andrine, You are absolutely right with what you said. I notice the yellow flowers on top have become brown because the alcohol evaporates and leaves them not cover up in alcohol. So I am removing the top gently and then the rest and fill more flowers in the same tincture. I need to get fresh mimosa because when the flowers are dried, it has a different scent and not so nice. Angi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 antonin mikhael <loula20202@...> wrote: Hello all, At 25 degrees Celsius, a Botanical material yields its fragrant elements to ethanol; according to the following formula: f = 100(1-1/1.1©ú) where f is the amount of fragrant component yield to the solution expressed in percentage of the fragrant oil present in the botanical material used, n equals tincturing time in hours. If we apply this rule we find that oil yielded to alcohol after 6 hours is 43% of the fragrant oil present, 68% after 12 hours and 89% after 24 hours but it will never reach 100%. When flowers are abundant I suggest changing the flowers daily. Antonin Hi Antonin Thanks so much for the precise technical data and shared information .... so valuable and helpful... I have noticed with changing times there is a variability depending on the plants receptivity to yielding their aroma some easier than others The Broom sounds wonderful... .. The calculation would be so helpful.... can you pop it up on the files.... so it can be found easily? Every good wish, Janita Janita Haan Natural Perfume Flowers of Myddfai project http://www.tiny.cc/flowers817 Janita's Attar http://www.janitasattars.blogspot.com --------------------------------- Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hello all, At 25 degrees Celsius, a Botanical material yields its fragrant elements to ethanol; according to the following formula: f = 100(1-1/1.1©ú) where f is the amount of fragrant component yield to the solution expressed in percentage of the fragrant oil present in the botanical material used, n equals tincturing time in hours. If we apply this rule we find that oil yielded to alcohol after 6 hours is 43% of the fragrant oil present, 68% after 12 hours and 89% after 24 hours but it will never reach 100%. When flowers are abundant I suggest changing the flowers daily. Last spring I tinctured broom flowers as they grow wild in our country side I used to change them twice every day and managed to get 10 liters of a broom wonderful scenting solution at the end of the season. Antonin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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