Re: Thoughts on United Healthcare

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Neil,you as business owner first and Doctor 2nd decide what you can accept and still keep your practice afloat. You decide based on your cash flow,confidence,and tolerance for bullshit.

I made the decision to not accept reimbursement less than my cost of opening my doors. I told United Healthcare Sayonara long ago, and I'm about to do the same to Blue Cross.

Do what's right for you , and to a lesser extent, your patients.If you aren't in business a year from now because some Insurance company shafted you,you aren't available for your patients.When I quit insurance companies all but a few penny pincher patients hang in there and pony up on their own, I expect the same would happen to you R Johansen D.C. PC,DABCOChiropractic Life Center12762 SE Stark StreetPortland Oregon 97233Voice 5032557746,Fax 5032550818---------- Original Message ----------From: neroco2@...To: Neil Cohen <neroco2@...>Cc: Subject: Thoughts on United HealthcareDate: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 02:48:09 +0000 (UTC)

Greetings:

Last week I asked for your thoughts on United Healthcare Insurance.

Without question, 100% responding thought this insurance was lousy at best.

Many of us have had to accept insurance into our practices to be able to serve our patients. We have seen EOB's constantly decrease to the

point where often we are being paid less than half of what we charge. And, these charges are fair and appropriate for the services we render. This not only happens to us but our allopathic, osteopathic, and other degreed collegues as well.

I recently asked my bank and insurance agent if they would accept 50% of the payment due as payment in full. They just laughed.

As they are patients of mine, I told them that is what their insurance pays me. Still, just a laugh.

Perhaps I'm preaching to the choir.

Your thoughts?

I told them that is what thier insurance pays me

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Ron,

I agree with you on this matter. During the 1960s' when Sid and Reggie Gold were competing with Jim for devotees Sid (who was very charismatic) had a mantra he'd give his followers " I take care of all patients regardless of condition and financial ability to pay." Needless to say many of the younger docs took his advice to heart and returned with tales of high volume practices (200-300 per day) which was very heady, however when they did the math they found they were averaging out to about a $1.50-75 per adjustment. After several months of this physically exhausted and practically broke all of these young D.C.s' reverted back to a fee for services. Those who didn't soon folded and went to work for other more business minded doctors.

Happy holidays,

Herb Freeman D.C.

Re: Thoughts on United Healthcare

Neil,you as business owner first and Doctor 2nd decide what you can accept and still keep your practice afloat. You decide based on your cash flow,confidence,and tolerance for bullshit.

I made the decision to not accept reimbursement less than my cost of opening my doors. I told United Healthcare Sayonara long ago, and I'm about to do the same to Blue Cross.

Do what's right for you , and to a lesser extent, your patients.If you aren't in business a year from now because some Insurance company shafted you,you aren't available for your patients.When I quit insurance companies all but a few penny pincher patients hang in there and pony up on their own, I expect the same would happen to you R Johansen D.C. PC,DABCOChiropractic Life Center12762 SE Stark StreetPortland Oregon 97233Voice 5032557746,Fax 5032550818---------- Original Message ----------From: neroco2@...To: Neil Cohen <neroco2@...>Cc: Subject: Thoughts on United HealthcareDate: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 02:48:09 +0000 (UTC)

Greetings:

Last week I asked for your thoughts on United Healthcare Insurance.

Without question, 100% responding thought this insurance was lousy at best.

Many of us have had to accept insurance into our practices to be able to serve our patients. We have seen EOB's constantly decrease to the

point where often we are being paid less than half of what we charge. And, these charges are fair and appropriate for the services we render. This not only happens to us but our allopathic, osteopathic, and other degreed collegues as well.

I recently asked my bank and insurance agent if they would accept 50% of the payment due as payment in full. They just laughed.

As they are patients of mine, I told them that is what their insurance pays me. Still, just a laugh.

Perhaps I'm preaching to the choir.

Your thoughts?

I told them that is what thier insurance pays me

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I have to second your thoughts, Ron. When I dropped ASHN some years back I actually increased income! Though I'm in business to serve the public, I still have to pay the cost of opening the doors. I'm sorry to say that $22 a visit was insufficient to keep the heat and lights on.

Oh, and deciding what the right payment for services is, as well as who will make that payment, is very empowering!

Dr. Christian Mathisen, D.C.

3654 S Pacific Hwy

Medford, OR 97501

cmathdc@...

Re: Thoughts on United Healthcare

Neil,you as business owner first and Doctor 2nd decide what you can accept and still keep your practice afloat. You decide based on your cash flow,confidence,and tolerance for bullshit.

I made the decision to not accept reimbursement less than my cost of opening my doors. I told United Healthcare Sayonara long ago, and I'm about to do the same to Blue Cross.

Do what's right for you , and to a lesser extent, your patients.If you aren't in business a year from now because some Insurance company shafted you,you aren't available for your patients.When I quit insurance companies all but a few penny pincher patients hang in there and pony up on their own, I expect the same would happen to you R Johansen D.C. PC,DABCOChiropractic Life Center12762 SE Stark StreetPortland Oregon 97233Voice 5032557746,Fax 5032550818---------- Original Message ----------From: neroco2@...To: Neil Cohen <neroco2@...>Cc: Subject: Thoughts on United HealthcareDate: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 02:48:09 +0000 (UTC)

Greetings:

Last week I asked for your thoughts on United Healthcare Insurance.

Without question, 100% responding thought this insurance was lousy at best.

Many of us have had to accept insurance into our practices to be able to serve our patients. We have seen EOB's constantly decrease to the

point where often we are being paid less than half of what we charge. And, these charges are fair and appropriate for the services we render. This not only happens to us but our allopathic, osteopathic, and other degreed collegues as well.

I recently asked my bank and insurance agent if they would accept 50% of the payment due as payment in full. They just laughed.

As they are patients of mine, I told them that is what their insurance pays me. Still, just a laugh.

Perhaps I'm preaching to the choir.

Your thoughts?

I told them that is what thier insurance pays me

____________________________________________________________53 Year Old Mom Looks 33The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worriedconsumerproducts.com