RE: Work Comp Steering Question/Issue

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Thanks Garreth, Answer to your question is NO the private party contract does not supersede the State Law that allows workers to choose their care. With that said it is very likely the employer puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the employees to cooperate with the “on-site evaluations” and equally unlikely that the employer discloses to the injured worker as the “Cascade Health Solutions” employees are loading the injured worker into this Occ Med Clinic’s van transporting them to the Occ med clinic. This is so blatantly what we have been complaining about as per the employers steering injured workers to the local Occ Med Clinics never informing the injured worker of their ability to choose their doctor and even threatening them with termination if they don’t play ball. Dr. Macdonald and all Eugene are doctors I need you to get me as much information on this situation as possible we are going to start asking injured workers to step forward and tell their “steering” stories and threats of termination, and actual terminations because they would not play ball in this anti-worker game. Next go around we need all the injured workers that have been trashed testifying in Salem…..Vern From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of g macdonaldSent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 3:13 PM Subject: Work Comp Steering Question/Issue Hi Gang,This question is mainly for the Lawyers on out listserve and perhaps Uncle Vern (now member of the Gov'ners Panel - Way to go Vern!!!!!!!!!)....but alas I digress.....so here goes.I am aware of a company that does on-site evaluations of injured workers then will transport them to the nearest facility. It is not an ambulance service, in fact it is called Med Transport. Interestingly, it is owned by Cascade Health Solutions (CHS), our local Occ Med clinic. I was also told that they have contracts with companies to go to them for this service and then clearly take the injured worker to CHS. What a racquet!Is that legal, meaning does the private party contract supersede the State law that allows a worker to choose their care? It would clearly be one reason we as DCs in Eugene/Springfield only see 1-2 WC cases a year.Talk about inbreeding...they have all avenues sewn up to capture the injured worker.Any comments........Garreth MacEugene

[Guest guest]

Isn't this the very thing that Saif and Stan Long accused a

particular chiropractor in Salem, who practiced on south Commercial

street of doing. Driving a transport van to injured workers to take

them to his clinic and back. Calling what he was doing

racketeering? I realize they will most likely hide behind a

"contract" but hey, if it was illegal 20+ years ago, it should still

be illegal.

Ron Grice, DC

Albany, OR

On 11/8/2011 3:27 PM, vsaboe wrote:

Thanks

Garreth,

Answer to your

question is NO the private party contract does

not supersede the State Law that allows workers to

choose their care. With that said it is

very likely the employer puts a tremendous amount of

pressure on the employees to cooperate with the

“on-site evaluations” and equally unlikely that the

employer discloses to the injured worker as the

“Cascade Health Solutions” employees are loading the

injured worker into this Occ Med Clinic’s van

transporting them to the Occ med clinic. This is so

blatantly what we have been complaining about as per

the employers steering injured workers to the local

Occ Med Clinics never informing the injured worker of

their ability to choose their doctor and even

threatening them with termination if they don’t play

ball.

Dr. Macdonald

and all Eugene are doctors I need you to get me as

much information on this situation as possible we are

going to start asking injured workers to step forward

and tell their “steering” stories and threats of

termination, and actual terminations because they

would not play ball in this anti-worker game. Next go

around we need all the injured workers that have been

trashed testifying in Salem…..Vern

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf

Of g macdonald

Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 3:13 PM

Subject: Work Comp

Steering Question/Issue

Hi Gang,

This question is mainly for the Lawyers on

out listserve and perhaps Uncle Vern (now

member of the Gov'ners Panel - Way to go

Vern!!!!!!!!!)....but alas I

digress.....so here goes.

I am aware of a company that does on-site

evaluations of injured workers then will

transport them to the nearest facility.

It is not an ambulance service, in fact it

is called Med Transport. Interestingly,

it is owned by Cascade Health Solutions

(CHS), our local Occ Med clinic.

I was also told that they have contracts

with companies to go to them for this

service and then clearly take the injured

worker to CHS. What a racquet!

Is that legal, meaning does the private

party contract supersede the State law

that allows a worker to choose their

care? It would clearly be one reason we

as DCs in Eugene/Springfield only see 1-2

WC cases a year.

Talk about inbreeding...they have all

avenues sewn up to capture the injured

worker.

Any comments........

Garreth Mac

Eugene

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Vern, all, That is absolutely a GREAT strategy ....... with only one problem: we have to GET them first! sigh. Haven't had my coffee yet this am.... SunnySunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834www.drsunnykierstyn.com docgumby30@...; From: vsaboe@...Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:27:11 -0800Subject: RE: Work Comp Steering Question/Issue

Thanks Garreth, Answer to your question is NO the private party contract does not supersede the State Law that allows workers to choose their care. With that said it is very likely the employer puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the employees to cooperate with the “on-site evaluations” and equally unlikely that the employer discloses to the injured worker as the “Cascade Health Solutions” employees are loading the injured worker into this Occ Med Clinic’s van transporting them to the Occ med clinic. This is so blatantly what we have been complaining about as per the employers steering injured workers to the local Occ Med Clinics never informing the injured worker of their ability to choose their doctor and even threatening them with termination if they don’t play ball. Dr. Macdonald and all Eugene are doctors I need you to get me as much information on this situation as possible we are going to start asking injured workers to step forward and tell their “steering” stories and threats of termination, and actual terminations because they would not play ball in this anti-worker game. Next go around we need all the injured workers that have been trashed testifying in Salem…..Vern From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of g macdonaldSent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 3:13 PM Subject: Work Comp Steering Question/Issue Hi Gang,This question is mainly for the Lawyers on out listserve and perhaps Uncle Vern (now member of the Gov'ners Panel - Way to go Vern!!!!!!!!!)....but alas I digress.....so here goes.I am aware of a company that does on-site evaluations of injured workers then will transport them to the nearest facility. It is not an ambulance service, in fact it is called Med Transport. Interestingly, it is owned by Cascade Health Solutions (CHS), our local Occ Med clinic. I was also told that they have contracts with companies to go to them for this service and then clearly take the injured worker to CHS. What a racquet!Is that legal, meaning does the private party contract supersede the State law that allows a worker to choose their care? It would clearly be one reason we as DCs in Eugene/Springfield only see 1-2 WC cases a year.Talk about inbreeding...they have all avenues sewn up to capture the injured worker.Any comments........Garreth MacEugene

[Guest guest]

Ron,In the PIP arena they are called "Cappers" and it is VERY illegal.Just for fun I will call Med Express and see what they say........Garreth MacEugene

Thanks

Garreth, Answer to your

question is NO the private party contract does

not supersede the State Law that allows workers to

choose their care. With that said it is

very likely the employer puts a tremendous amount of

pressure on the employees to cooperate with the

“on-site evaluations†and equally unlikely that the

employer discloses to the injured worker as the

“Cascade Health Solutions†employees are loading the

injured worker into this Occ Med Clinic’s van

transporting them to the Occ med clinic. This is so

blatantly what we have been complaining about as per

the employers steering injured workers to the local

Occ Med Clinics never informing the injured worker of

their ability to choose their doctor and even

threatening them with termination if they don’t play

ball. Dr. Macdonald

and all Eugene are doctors I need you to get me as

much information on this situation as possible we are

going to start asking injured workers to step forward

and tell their “steering†stories and threats of

termination, and actual terminations because they

would not play ball in this anti-worker game. Next go

around we need all the injured workers that have been

trashed testifying in Salem…..Vern

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf

Of g macdonald

Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 3:13 PM

Subject: Work Comp

Steering Question/Issue

Hi Gang,

This question is mainly for the Lawyers on

out listserve and perhaps Uncle Vern (now

member of the Gov'ners Panel - Way to go

Vern!!!!!!!!!)....but alas I

digress.....so here goes.

I am aware of a company that does on-site

evaluations of injured workers then will

transport them to the nearest facility.

It is not an ambulance service, in fact it

is called Med Transport. Interestingly,

it is owned by Cascade Health Solutions

(CHS), our local Occ Med clinic.

I was also told that they have contracts

with companies to go to them for this

service and then clearly take the injured

worker to CHS. What a racquet!

Is that legal, meaning does the private

party contract supersede the State law

that allows a worker to choose their

care? It would clearly be one reason we

as DCs in Eugene/Springfield only see 1-2

WC cases a year.

Talk about inbreeding...they have all

avenues sewn up to capture the injured

worker.

Any comments........

Garreth Mac

Eugene

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Can't wait to hear their response.

Ron Grice, DC

On 11/9/2011 11:54 AM, g macdonald wrote:

Ron,

In the PIP arena they are called "Cappers" and it is VERY

illegal.

Just for fun I will call Med Express and see what they

say........

Garreth Mac

Eugene

 

Thanks

Garreth,

 

Answer

to your question is NO the

private party contract does not

supersede the State Law that

allows workers to choose their

care.  With that said it

is very likely the employer puts a

tremendous amount of pressure on the

employees to cooperate with the

“on-site evaluations†and equally

unlikely that the employer discloses

to the injured worker as the “Cascade

Health Solutions†employees are

loading the injured worker into this

Occ Med Clinic’s van transporting them

to the Occ med clinic.  This is so

blatantly what we have been

complaining about as per the employers

steering injured workers to the local

Occ Med Clinics never informing the

injured worker of their ability to

choose their doctor and even

threatening them with termination if

they don’t play ball.

 

Dr.

Macdonald and all Eugene are doctors I

need you to get me as much information

on this situation as possible we are

going to start asking injured workers

to step forward and tell their

“steering†stories and threats of

termination, and actual terminations

because they would not play ball in

this anti-worker game.  Next go around

we need all the injured workers that

have been trashed testifying in

Salem…..Vern

 

From:

[mailto: ]

On Behalf Of g macdonald

Sent: Tuesday, November 08,

2011 3:13 PM

Subject:

Work Comp Steering Question/Issue

 

 

Hi

Gang,

This question is mainly

for the Lawyers on out

listserve and perhaps

Uncle Vern (now member of

the Gov'ners Panel - Way

to go

Vern!!!!!!!!!)....but alas

I digress.....so here

goes.

I am aware of a company

that does on-site

evaluations of injured

workers then will

transport them to the

nearest facility.  It is

not an ambulance service,

in fact it is called Med

Transport.  Interestingly,

it is owned by Cascade

Health Solutions (CHS),

our local Occ Med clinic. 

I was also told that they

have contracts with

companies to go to them

for this service and then

clearly take the injured

worker to CHS.  What a

racquet!

Is that legal, meaning

does the private party

contract supersede the

State law that allows a

worker to choose their

care?  It would clearly be

one reason we as DCs in

Eugene/Springfield only

see 1-2 WC cases a year.

Talk about

inbreeding...they have all

avenues sewn up to capture

the injured worker.

Any comments........

Garreth Mac

Eugene

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