RE: teenage tachycardia

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I use to work CCU with Ron Chelsky and Brad Titus, MD out of Adventist and I think Providence now. Both excellent doctors, and Dr.Ron is much more relational. Both are great diagnosticians in my book. For a wonderfull "old school" doctor, Dr. Stuart Trentholme out of St. V's.

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In a message dated 12/14/2011 9:37:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rjacksondc@... writes:

Hi everyone:My 14 year old son experienced several minutes of tachycardia today with no other symptoms. He tried to count his HR, said it was over 190 bpm. He was sitting on the school bus, no LOC, didn't feel dizzy - just felt his heart racing for no reason. He is not real active, has grown 3+ inches in the last few months to 5'10", weighs 145 lbs. He was fine when I talked to him tonight (he lives with his Mom most of the time). My first thought was WWP, any other ideas?Any recommendations for a cardiologist in Portland or Salem? Thanks, I am a bit freaked out over this.....RodRodney G. , DCTillamook Natural Health Center309 Laurel Ave.Tillamook, OR 97141503-842-6532

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Are you thinking Wolff Parkinson White? A simple EKG should pick it up. And catheter ablation can easily fix it.Best to you and your son, BarrettSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Rod DC <rjacksondc@...>Sender: Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:37:46 -0800 (GMT-08:00)oregon dc's< >Reply Rod DC <rjacksondc@...>Subject: teenage tachycardia Hi everyone:My 14 year old son experienced several minutes of tachycardia today with no other symptoms. He tried to count his HR, said it was over 190 bpm. He was sitting on the school bus, no LOC, didn't feel dizzy - just felt his heart racing for no reason. He is not real active, has grown 3+ inches in the last few months to 5'10 " , weighs 145 lbs. He was fine when I talked to him tonight (he lives with his Mom most of the time). My first thought was WWP, any other ideas?Any recommendations for a cardiologist in Portland or Salem? Thanks, I am a bit freaked out over this.....RodRodney G. , DCTillamook Natural Health Center309 Laurel Ave.Tillamook, OR 97141503-842-6532

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Yes. I remember it as Wolff-White-Parkinson for some reason. Dyslexic perhaps I am. Thanks for your thoughts!Rod teenage tachycardia

Hi everyone:

My 14 year old son experienced several minutes of tachycardia today with no other symptoms. He tried to count his HR, said it was over 190 bpm. He was sitting on the school bus, no LOC, didn't feel dizzy - just felt his heart racing for no reason. He is not real active, has grown 3+ inches in the last few months to 5'10", weighs 145 lbs. He was fine when I talked to him tonight (he lives with his Mom most of the time). My first thought was WWP, any other ideas?

Any recommendations for a cardiologist in Portland or Salem?

Thanks, I am a bit freaked out over this.....

Rod

Rodney G. , DC

Tillamook Natural Health Center

309 Laurel Ave.

Tillamook, OR 97141

503-842-6532

Rodney G. , DC

Tillamook Natural Health Center

309 Laurel Ave.

Tillamook, OR 97141

503-842-6532

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Beckerman, MD has written a book on exercise and youth cardiology. He is who we use for the Timbers. GREAT GUY Ted Forcum, DC, DACBSPBack In Motion Sports Injuries Clinic, LLCPortland Timbers Team ChiropractorPortland Winterhawks Team Chiropractor ACA Sports Council, Past President'08 US Olympic Sports Medicine Team Member11385 SW Scholls Ferry RoadBeaverton, Oregon 97008503.524.9040www.bimsportsinjuries.com The information contained in this electronic message may contain protected health information confidential under applicable law, and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the recipient of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copy or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Back In Motion Sports Injuries Clinic, LLC at 11385 SW Scholls Ferry Road, Beaverton, OR-97008. and purge the communication immediately without making any copy or distribution. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Rod DCSent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:38 PMoregon dc'sSubject: teenage tachycardia Hi everyone:My 14 year old son experienced several minutes of tachycardia today with no other symptoms. He tried to count his HR, said it was over 190 bpm. He was sitting on the school bus, no LOC, didn't feel dizzy - just felt his heart racing for no reason. He is not real active, has grown 3+ inches in the last few months to 5'10 " , weighs 145 lbs. He was fine when I talked to him tonight (he lives with his Mom most of the time). My first thought was WWP, any other ideas?Any recommendations for a cardiologist in Portland or Salem? Thanks, I am a bit freaked out over this.....RodRodney G. , DCTillamook Natural Health Center309 Laurel Ave.Tillamook, OR 97141503-842-6532

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Rod,

One weird thing about anxiety (not to say that your boy’s tachycardia is necessarily that), is that it is sometimes a positive feedback loop.

Your heart starts to race or get shortness of breath, ask yourself if you’re dying and the answer is always “YES! Freak out!”

The autonomics go crazy and the race is on, so to speak.

A patient of mine who works with anxiety disorders teaches patients “belly breathing” as deep breathing stimulates the parasympathetics, even to the point of telling them to take “exactly 6 breaths breathing out twice as long as in”. This focuses the patient on counting and breathing instead of their tachycardia.

Of course, this is far too inexpensive and unsophisticated to be valid so a full workup by a team of professionals is indicated.

--

E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

From: Rod DC <rjacksondc@...>

Reply-Rod DC <rjacksondc@...>

Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:37:46 -0800 (GMT-08:00)

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Subject: teenage tachycardia

Hi everyone:

My 14 year old son experienced several minutes of tachycardia today with no other symptoms. He tried to count his HR, said it was over 190 bpm. He was sitting on the school bus, no LOC, didn't feel dizzy - just felt his heart racing for no reason. He is not real active, has grown 3+ inches in the last few months to 5'10 " , weighs 145 lbs. He was fine when I talked to him tonight (he lives with his Mom most of the time). My first thought was WWP, any other ideas?

Any recommendations for a cardiologist in Portland or Salem?

Thanks, I am a bit freaked out over this.....

Rod

Rodney G. , DC

Tillamook Natural Health Center

309 Laurel Ave.

Tillamook, OR 97141

503-842-6532

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Having just read a great book by a fellow D.C., thyroid issue would have to be ruled out.http://www.amazon.com/Still-Thyroid-Symptoms-Tests-Normal/dp/1600376703/ref=sr_1_1?s=books & ie=UTF8 & qid=1323973597 & sr=1-1Alan , D.C743 Lawrence StEugene, OR 97401-2501541.343.1942alansmithdc@...To: rjacksondc@...; From: drscott@...Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:59:35 -0800Subject: Re: teenage tachycardia

Rod,

One weird thing about anxiety (not to say that your boy’s tachycardia is necessarily that), is that it is sometimes a positive feedback loop.

Your heart starts to race or get shortness of breath, ask yourself if you’re dying and the answer is always “YES! Freak out!”

The autonomics go crazy and the race is on, so to speak.

A patient of mine who works with anxiety disorders teaches patients “belly breathing” as deep breathing stimulates the parasympathetics, even to the point of telling them to take “exactly 6 breaths breathing out twice as long as in”. This focuses the patient on counting and breathing instead of their tachycardia.

Of course, this is far too inexpensive and unsophisticated to be valid so a full workup by a team of professionals is indicated.

--

E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

From: Rod DC <rjacksondc@...>

Reply-Rod DC <rjacksondc@...>

Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:37:46 -0800 (GMT-08:00)

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Subject: teenage tachycardia

Hi everyone:

My 14 year old son experienced several minutes of tachycardia today with no other symptoms. He tried to count his HR, said it was over 190 bpm. He was sitting on the school bus, no LOC, didn't feel dizzy - just felt his heart racing for no reason. He is not real active, has grown 3+ inches in the last few months to 5'10", weighs 145 lbs. He was fine when I talked to him tonight (he lives with his Mom most of the time). My first thought was WWP, any other ideas?

Any recommendations for a cardiologist in Portland or Salem?

Thanks, I am a bit freaked out over this.....

Rod

Rodney G. , DC

Tillamook Natural Health Center

309 Laurel Ave.

Tillamook, OR 97141

503-842-6532

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Oh, and tell him to quit drinking milk.

It causes tachycardia!

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E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

From: Alan <alansmithdc@...>

Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:28:35 -0700

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Subject: RE: teenage tachycardia

Having just read a great book by a fellow D.C., thyroid issue would have to be ruled out.

http://www.amazon.com/Still-Thyroid-Symptoms-Tests-Normal/dp/1600376703/ref=sr_1_1?s=books & ie=UTF8 & qid=1323973597 & sr=1-1

Alan , D.C

743 Lawrence St

Eugene, OR 97401-2501

541.343.1942

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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:59:35 -0800

Subject: Re: teenage tachycardia

Rod,

One weird thing about anxiety (not to say that your boy’s tachycardia is necessarily that), is that it is sometimes a positive feedback loop.

Your heart starts to race or get shortness of breath, ask yourself if you’re dying and the answer is always “YES! Freak out!”

The autonomics go crazy and the race is on, so to speak.

A patient of mine who works with anxiety disorders teaches patients “belly breathing” as deep breathing stimulates the parasympathetics, even to the point of telling them to take “exactly 6 breaths breathing out twice as long as in”. This focuses the patient on counting and breathing instead of their tachycardia.

Of course, this is far too inexpensive and unsophisticated to be valid so a full workup by a team of professionals is indicated.

--

E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:37:46 -0800 (GMT-08:00)

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Subject: teenage tachycardia

Hi everyone:

My 14 year old son experienced several minutes of tachycardia today with no other symptoms. He tried to count his HR, said it was over 190 bpm. He was sitting on the school bus, no LOC, didn't feel dizzy - just felt his heart racing for no reason. He is not real active, has grown 3+ inches in the last few months to 5'10 " , weighs 145 lbs. He was fine when I talked to him tonight (he lives with his Mom most of the time). My first thought was WWP, any other ideas?

Any recommendations for a cardiologist in Portland or Salem?

Thanks, I am a bit freaked out over this.....

Rod

Rodney G. , DC

Tillamook Natural Health Center

309 Laurel Ave.

Tillamook, OR 97141

503-842-6532

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One other thing to remember Rod, 14 year olds Luvluvuluv llllooooovvveeeee drama! Not to say the guy didn't have an episode, but they can make it sound like the end of the world in half a sentence! ;'-)) obviously from someone who has beentheredonethat! Sunny Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834www.drsunnykierstyn.com rjacksondc@...; From: drscott@...Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:59:35 -0800Subject: Re: teenage tachycardia

Rod,

One weird thing about anxiety (not to say that your boy’s tachycardia is necessarily that), is that it is sometimes a positive feedback loop.

Your heart starts to race or get shortness of breath, ask yourself if you’re dying and the answer is always “YES! Freak out!”

The autonomics go crazy and the race is on, so to speak.

A patient of mine who works with anxiety disorders teaches patients “belly breathing” as deep breathing stimulates the parasympathetics, even to the point of telling them to take “exactly 6 breaths breathing out twice as long as in”. This focuses the patient on counting and breathing instead of their tachycardia.

Of course, this is far too inexpensive and unsophisticated to be valid so a full workup by a team of professionals is indicated.

--

E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

From: Rod DC <rjacksondc@...>

Reply-Rod DC <rjacksondc@...>

Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:37:46 -0800 (GMT-08:00)

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Subject: teenage tachycardia

Hi everyone:

My 14 year old son experienced several minutes of tachycardia today with no other symptoms. He tried to count his HR, said it was over 190 bpm. He was sitting on the school bus, no LOC, didn't feel dizzy - just felt his heart racing for no reason. He is not real active, has grown 3+ inches in the last few months to 5'10", weighs 145 lbs. He was fine when I talked to him tonight (he lives with his Mom most of the time). My first thought was WWP, any other ideas?

Any recommendations for a cardiologist in Portland or Salem?

Thanks, I am a bit freaked out over this.....

Rod

Rodney G. , DC

Tillamook Natural Health Center

309 Laurel Ave.

Tillamook, OR 97141

503-842-6532

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Good suggestion for all of us, .Bringing the breath consciously into the belly (the belly first swells with inhalation, then at the diaphragm, finally - if needed - in the upper lobes of the chest. With the breath mostly in the belly, the splanchnic nerves are mechanically stimulated, and in turn the celiac and inferior mesenteric ganglia, which promote digestive circulation. By extending the exhalation (usually to be twice as long as inhalation), the number of nerve endings firing in muscles reduces. This global inhibition of the NS is an effect of the diaphragm relaxing slowly during the long exhalation. The overall effect is greater calmness and relaxation.http://iupucbio2.iupui.edu/anatomy/images/Chapt17/FG17_04.jpgare Sears, DC, IAYT1218 NW 21st AvePortland, Oregon 97209v: 503-225-0255f: 503-525-6902www.docbones.comOn Dec 15, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Abrahamson wrote: Rod, One weird thing about anxiety (not to say that your boy’s tachycardia is necessarily that), is that it is sometimes a positive feedback loop. Your heart starts to race or get shortness of breath, ask yourself if you’re dying and the answer is always “YES! Freak out!” The autonomics go crazy and the race is on, so to speak. A patient of mine who works with anxiety disorders teaches patients “belly breathing” as deep breathing stimulates the parasympathetics, even to the point of telling them to take “exactly 6 breaths breathing out twice as long as in”. This focuses the patient on counting and breathing instead of their tachycardia. Of course, this is far too inexpensive and unsophisticated to be valid so a full workup by a team of professionals is indicated. -- E. Abrahamson, D.C. Chiropractic physician Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic 315 Second Street Lake Oswego, OR 97034 503-635-6246 Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com From: Rod DC <rjacksondc@...> Reply-Rod DC <rjacksondc@...> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:37:46 -0800 (GMT-08:00) oregon dc's < > Subject: teenage tachycardia Hi everyone: My 14 year old son experienced several minutes of tachycardia today with no other symptoms. He tried to count his HR, said it was over 190 bpm. He was sitting on the school bus, no LOC, didn't feel dizzy - just felt his heart racing for no reason. He is not real active, has grown 3+ inches in the last few months to 5'10", weighs 145 lbs. He was fine when I talked to him tonight (he lives with his Mom most of the time). My first thought was WWP, any other ideas? Any recommendations for a cardiologist in Portland or Salem? Thanks, I am a bit freaked out over this..... Rod Rodney G. , DC Tillamook Natural Health Center 309 Laurel Ave. Tillamook, OR 97141 503-842-6532

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Rod,

I had a female patient 16 yrs old who was an athlete and complained that she was so 'nervous' lately at her events. After treating her for a hamstring pull, I asked her a few questions about how she felt about sports and competing, in case she was more forced into track etc and thus the nervous feeling. She loved sports and no one was making her do anything she didn't want to do. I had her do 15 pushups and then sit on the table. I listened to her heart. It was not only racing, but had an irregular beat. I was somewhat concerned that maybe I just wasn't that practiced at listening to the heart. I don't do a lot of those exams. So I asked her if she felt nervous after doing the push-ups. She said, yeah it was kind of like that but not as bad as when she ran hurdles! OMG. SO I just had her jog in place and do a couple high knee lifts. She reported that the feeling was closer to the nervousness she felt in track. And when I listened the heart beat was actually too fast for me to count easily. I sent her to her PCP who put her on a 24 hour heart monitor and found a Benign paroxsymal tachycardia. She had sinus node ablation and was ok after that. The PCP called me to thank mr for finding it. He said, this is the kind of thing that kids can die of if it's not caught when they're in extreme exertion athletic activities. If your son is not in those, it's not as dangerous. However, not a bad idea to test him yourself with a bit of exertion and stethoscope to the heart. If you suspect anything out of the ordinary, refer him out.

BTW, the PCP told me that up to age 25 a bit of tachycardia is normal. The tachycardia is usually at rest and in the evening according to his description.

hope this helps.

Minga Guerrero DC

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teenage tachycardia

Hi everyone:

My 14 year old son experienced several minutes of tachycardia today with no other symptoms. He tried to count his HR, said it was over 190 bpm. He was sitting on the school bus, no LOC, didn't feel dizzy - just felt his heart racing for no reason. He is not real active, has grown 3+ inches in the last few months to 5'10", weighs 145 lbs. He was fine when I talked to him tonight (he lives with his Mom most of the time). My first thought was WWP, any other ideas?

Any recommendations for a cardiologist in Portland or Salem?

Thanks, I am a bit freaked out over this.....

Rod

Rodney G. , DC

Tillamook Natural Health Center

309 Laurel Ave.

Tillamook, OR 97141

503-842-6532

Rodney G. , DC

Tillamook Natural Health Center

309 Laurel Ave.

Tillamook, OR 97141

503-842-6532