Re: FW: Audio of My PowerPoint Testimony This Morning

[Guest guest]

Thank you Vern and thank you to our wonderful (and growing!)professional

association OCA.

john collins

>

> Dear Colleagues,

>

>

>

> I thought I'd forward this email I sent to the Oregon Chiropractic Assoc

> Board relative to my testimony for the profession this morning in front of

> the interim meeting of the House Business & Labor Committee. Below I give

> the link to the Oregon Legislative Webpage follow the instructions and you

> can listen to my testimony and as I told the OCA Board the comments and

> questions by the Committee members were quite telling. In short I pulled no

> punches when it came to my referring to the problems with the medical

> management of injured workers and the MDs over-reliance on drugs and surgery

> with narcotics being the number one drug class used by our allopathic

> friends...

>

>

>

> I think it's important you know what your only State Association is doing

> for you and your patients behind the scenes..

>

>

>

> Cheers,

>

>

>

> Vern Saboe, DC

>

>

>

> From: vsaboe [mailto:vsaboe@...]

> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 4:14 PM

> 'Steve and Carrell DeShaw'; 'Dr Dan '; 'Dan Beeson'; 'Dr Mike

> '; ' Hacmac'; 'Dr Ann Durrant'; 'Dr Pitcarin'; 'Huma

> Pierce'; 'Sunny Kierstyn'; 'Dr Matt Freedman'; 'Ron Grice'; 'Dr

> s'; 'Charlie Caughlin'; 'Cheryl Gross, DC'; 'vsaboe@...'

> Cc: 'oregonchiro@...'

> Subject: " Audio of My PowerPoint Testimony This Morning "

>

>

>

> Dear Board members,

>

>

>

> I send Steve and Dan my PowerPoint presentation today which was used during

> my invited testimony this morning in front of the interim meeting of the

> House Business & Labor Committee I would recommend going to the Oregon

> Legislature website and listen to my testimony but even more so the comments

> and questions of the Legislative Committee Members. We will continue to

> shake the foundation of the medical approach with its inappropriate

> over-reliance on drugs and surgery in this case relative to Oregon's injured

> workers. The State of Oregon and its Workers Compensation Division should

> be concerned for what is in the best interest of injured workers not just

> cost.

>

>

>

> Again, you will find the comments and questions by the Chair and Committee

> members very interesting they mostly are responding to the arbitrary

> restrictions on us as a provider group and to the statistics on drugs and

> surgery..trust me we will continue to " stir the pot " with evidence of the

> considerable downside to the medical model of healthcare and treatment of

> injured workers and the need to return full attending physician status to

> chiropractic physicians and to open or at least significantly expand the

> current closed panel MCOs. To listen to my testimony go here:

>

>

>

> http://www.leg.state.or.us/

>

>

>

> on the top of the webpage click on " Audio/Video " then scroll down to " Audio

> Archives " then click on " 2011 Interim " then click on " Archives of

> Committee Meetings from the 2011 Interim " scroll down to " House Committees "

> click on " Business & Labor " click on " 9/21/2011 9:00 AM " you will need to

> download free " Realplayer " if you don't have it on your computer. Lastly

> click on the fast forward button on the Realplayer view screen until you get

> to min. " 20:22 " in other words 20mins and 22 seconds into the hearing and

> my testimony begins..If you are interested in viewing the PowerPoint slides

> I used for my testimony let me know and I'll forward those to you.

>

>

>

> Cheers and see you tomorrow night,

>

>

>

> Vern

>

[Guest guest]

Not sure you've seen this startling and telling stat yet: Drug deaths now outnumber traffic fatalities in U.S., data show"Propelled by an increase in prescription narcotic overdoses, drug deaths now outnumber traffic fatalities in the United States, a Times analysis of government data has found.Drugs exceeded motor vehicle accidents as a cause of death in 2009, killing at least 37,485 people nationwide, according to preliminary data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-drugs-epidemic-20110918,0,2557221,full.story Sears, DC, IAYT1218 NW 21st AvePortland, Oregon 97209v: 503-225-0255f: 503-525-6902www.docbones.comOn Sep 21, 2011, at 4:45 PM, vsaboe wrote: Dear Colleagues, I thought I’d forward this email I sent to the Oregon Chiropractic Assoc Board relative to my testimony for the profession this morning in front of the interim meeting of the House Business & Labor Committee. Below I give the link to the Oregon Legislative Webpage follow the instructions and you can listen to my testimony and as I told the OCA Board the comments and questions by the Committee members were quite telling. In short I pulled no punches when it came to my referring to the problems with the medical management of injured workers and the MDs over-reliance on drugs and surgery with narcotics being the number one drug class used by our allopathic friends….. I think it’s important you know what your only State Association is doing for you and your patients behind the scenes…. Cheers, Vern Saboe, DC From: vsaboe [mailto:vsaboe@...] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 4:14 PM'Steve and Carrell DeShaw'; 'Dr Dan '; 'Dan Beeson'; 'Dr Mike '; ' Hacmac'; 'Dr Ann Durrant'; 'Dr Pitcarin'; 'Huma Pierce'; 'Sunny Kierstyn'; 'Dr Matt Freedman'; 'Ron Grice'; 'Dr s'; 'Charlie Caughlin'; 'Cheryl Gross, DC'; 'vsaboe@...'Cc: 'oregonchiro@...'Subject: "Audio of My PowerPoint Testimony This Morning" Dear Board members, I send Steve and Dan my PowerPoint presentation today which was used during my invited testimony this morning in front of the interim meeting of the House Business & Labor Committee I would recommend going to the Oregon Legislature website and listen to my testimony but even more so the comments and questions of the Legislative Committee Members. We will continue to shake the foundation of the medical approach with its inappropriate over-reliance on drugs and surgery in this case relative to Oregon’s injured workers. The State of Oregon and its Workers Compensation Division should be concerned for what is in the best interest of injured workers not just cost. Again, you will find the comments and questions by the Chair and Committee members very interesting they mostly are responding to the arbitrary restrictions on us as a provider group and to the statistics on drugs and surgery….trust me we will continue to “stir the pot” with evidence of the considerable downside to the medical model of healthcare and treatment of injured workers and the need to return full attending physician status to chiropractic physicians and to open or at least significantly expand the current closed panel MCOs. To listen to my testimony go here: http://www.leg.state.or.us/ on the top of the webpage click on “Audio/Video” then scroll down to “Audio Archives” then click on “2011 Interim” then click on “Archives of Committee Meetings from the 2011 Interim” scroll down to “House Committees” click on “Business & Labor” click on “9/21/2011 9:00 AM” you will need to download free “Realplayer” if you don’t have it on your computer. Lastly click on the fast forward button on the Realplayer view screen until you get to min. “20:22” in other words 20mins and 22 seconds into the hearing and my testimony begins……If you are interested in viewing the PowerPoint slides I used for my testimony let me know and I’ll forward those to you. Cheers and see you tomorrow night, Vern

[Guest guest]

How is it that the allopaths continue to get away with this ..... they must have one hell of a media lobby! SunnySunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834www.drsunnykierstyn.com CC: To: vsaboe@...From: dm.bones@...Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:40:38 -0700Subject: Re: FW: "Audio of My PowerPoint Testimony This Morning"

Not sure you've seen this startling and telling stat yet: Drug deaths now outnumber traffic fatalities in U.S., data show"Propelled by an increase in prescription narcotic overdoses, drug deaths now outnumber traffic fatalities in the United States, a Times analysis of government data has found.Drugs exceeded motor vehicle accidents as a cause of death in 2009, killing at least 37,485 people nationwide, according to preliminary data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-drugs-epidemic-20110918,0,2557221,full.story Sears, DC, IAYT1218 NW 21st AvePortland, Oregon 97209v: 503-225-0255f: 503-525-6902www.docbones.comOn Sep 21, 2011, at 4:45 PM, vsaboe wrote: Dear Colleagues, I thought I’d forward this email I sent to the Oregon Chiropractic Assoc Board relative to my testimony for the profession this morning in front of the interim meeting of the House Business & Labor Committee. Below I give the link to the Oregon Legislative Webpage follow the instructions and you can listen to my testimony and as I told the OCA Board the comments and questions by the Committee members were quite telling. In short I pulled no punches when it came to my referring to the problems with the medical management of injured workers and the MDs over-reliance on drugs and surgery with narcotics being the number one drug class used by our allopathic friends….. I think it’s important you know what your only State Association is doing for you and your patients behind the scenes…. Cheers, Vern Saboe, DC From: vsaboe [mailto:vsaboe@...] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 4:14 PM'Steve and Carrell DeShaw'; 'Dr Dan '; 'Dan Beeson'; 'Dr Mike '; ' Hacmac'; 'Dr Ann Durrant'; 'Dr Pitcarin'; 'Huma Pierce'; 'Sunny Kierstyn'; 'Dr Matt Freedman'; 'Ron Grice'; 'Dr s'; 'Charlie Caughlin'; 'Cheryl Gross, DC'; 'vsaboe@...'Cc: 'oregonchiro@...'Subject: "Audio of My PowerPoint Testimony This Morning" Dear Board members, I send Steve and Dan my PowerPoint presentation today which was used during my invited testimony this morning in front of the interim meeting of the House Business & Labor Committee I would recommend going to the Oregon Legislature website and listen to my testimony but even more so the comments and questions of the Legislative Committee Members. We will continue to shake the foundation of the medical approach with its inappropriate over-reliance on drugs and surgery in this case relative to Oregon’s injured workers. The State of Oregon and its Workers Compensation Division should be concerned for what is in the best interest of injured workers not just cost. Again, you will find the comments and questions by the Chair and Committee members very interesting they mostly are responding to the arbitrary restrictions on us as a provider group and to the statistics on drugs and surgery….trust me we will continue to “stir the pot” with evidence of the considerable downside to the medical model of healthcare and treatment of injured workers and the need to return full attending physician status to chiropractic physicians and to open or at least significantly expand the current closed panel MCOs. To listen to my testimony go here: http://www.leg.state.or.us/ on the top of the webpage click on “Audio/Video” then scroll down to “Audio Archives” then click on “2011 Interim” then click on “Archives of Committee Meetings from the 2011 Interim” scroll down to “House Committees” click on “Business & Labor” click on “9/21/2011 9:00 AM” you will need to download free “Realplayer” if you don’t have it on your computer. Lastly click on the fast forward button on the Realplayer view screen until you get to min. “20:22” in other words 20mins and 22 seconds into the hearing and my testimony begins……If you are interested in viewing the PowerPoint slides I used for my testimony let me know and I’ll forward those to you. Cheers and see you tomorrow night, Vern

[Guest guest]

I haven't listened to the audio but Vern what is being done about opening up the WC MCO's to more DC's??? And are you on any WC MCO's??Judith Allan, DC, Lake Oswego On Sep 21, 2011, at 4:45 PM, vsaboe wrote: Dear Colleagues, I thought I’d forward this email I sent to the Oregon Chiropractic Assoc Board relative to my testimony for the profession this morning in front of the interim meeting of the House Business & Labor Committee. Below I give the link to the Oregon Legislative Webpage follow the instructions and you can listen to my testimony and as I told the OCA Board the comments and questions by the Committee members were quite telling. In short I pulled no punches when it came to my referring to the problems with the medical management of injured workers and the MDs over-reliance on drugs and surgery with narcotics being the number one drug class used by our allopathic friends….. I think it’s important you know what your only State Association is doing for you and your patients behind the scenes…. Cheers, Vern Saboe, DC From: vsaboe [mailto:vsaboe@...] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 4:14 PM'Steve and Carrell DeShaw'; 'Dr Dan '; 'Dan Beeson'; 'Dr Mike '; ' Hacmac'; 'Dr Ann Durrant'; 'Dr Pitcarin'; 'Huma Pierce'; 'Sunny Kierstyn'; 'Dr Matt Freedman'; 'Ron Grice'; 'Dr s'; 'Charlie Caughlin'; 'Cheryl Gross, DC'; 'vsaboe@...'Cc: 'oregonchiro@...'Subject: "Audio of My PowerPoint Testimony This Morning" Dear Board members, I send Steve and Dan my PowerPoint presentation today which was used during my invited testimony this morning in front of the interim meeting of the House Business & Labor Committee I would recommend going to the Oregon Legislature website and listen to my testimony but even more so the comments and questions of the Legislative Committee Members. We will continue to shake the foundation of the medical approach with its inappropriate over-reliance on drugs and surgery in this case relative to Oregon’s injured workers. The State of Oregon and its Workers Compensation Division should be concerned for what is in the best interest of injured workers not just cost. Again, you will find the comments and questions by the Chair and Committee members very interesting they mostly are responding to the arbitrary restrictions on us as a provider group and to the statistics on drugs and surgery….trust me we will continue to “stir the pot” with evidence of the considerable downside to the medical model of healthcare and treatment of injured workers and the need to return full attending physician status to chiropractic physicians and to open or at least significantly expand the current closed panel MCOs. To listen to my testimony go here: http://www.leg.state.or.us/ on the top of the webpage click on “Audio/Video” then scroll down to “Audio Archives” then click on “2011 Interim” then click on “Archives of Committee Meetings from the 2011 Interim” scroll down to “House Committees” click on “Business & Labor” click on “9/21/2011 9:00 AM” you will need to download free “Realplayer” if you don’t have it on your computer. Lastly click on the fast forward button on the Realplayer view screen until you get to min. “20:22” in other words 20mins and 22 seconds into the hearing and my testimony begins……If you are interested in viewing the PowerPoint slides I used for my testimony let me know and I’ll forward those to you. Cheers and see you tomorrow night, Vern

[Guest guest]

Yes, Judith this is one of the key points I touched upon during my testimony on Sept. 21 that being the significantly restricted closed panel MCOs are restricting access to quality care for injured workers and that the panels need to be open or at the very least significantly expanded. I am a member of Oregon Health Systems which has the SAIF Corp contract in the Albany-Corvallis-Lebanon-Sweet Home area. However, Health Futures was the original MCO which was compeletly open and I believe it was SAIF the mandated a closed panel MCO.....Vern

"Audio of My PowerPoint Testimony This Morning"

Dear Board members,

I send Steve and Dan my PowerPoint presentation today which was used during my invited testimony this morning in front of the interim meeting of the House Business & Labor Committee I would recommend going to the Oregon Legislature website and listen to my testimony but even more so the comments and questions of the Legislative Committee Members. We will continue to shake the foundation of the medical approach with its inappropriate over-reliance on drugs and surgery in this case relative to Oregon’s injured workers. The State of Oregon and its Workers Compensation Division should be concerned for what is in the best interest of injured workers not just cost.

Again, you will find the comments and questions by the Chair and Committee members very interesting they mostly are responding to the arbitrary restrictions on us as a provider group and to the statistics on drugs and surgery….trust me we will continue to “stir the pot” with evidence of the considerable downside to the medical model of healthcare and treatment of injured workers and the need to return full attending physician status to chiropractic physicians and to open or at least significantly expand the current closed panel MCOs. To listen to my testimony go here:

http://www.leg.state.or.us/

on the top of the webpage click on “Audio/Video” then scroll down to “Audio Archives” then click on “2011 Interim” then click on “Archives of Committee Meetings from the 2011 Interim” scroll down to “House Committees” click on “Business & Labor” click on “9/21/2011 9:00 AM” you will need to download free “Realplayer” if you don’t have it on your computer. Lastly click on the fast forward button on the Realplayer view screen until you get to min. “20:22” in other words 20mins and 22 seconds into the hearing and my testimony begins……If you are interested in viewing the PowerPoint slides I used for my testimony let me know and I’ll forward those to you.

Cheers and see you tomorrow night,

Vern

[Guest guest]

Is there asnyone out there that can point me in the direction of a staute, admin rule or law that allows one business to restrict competition from another... I mean, as an example ,would the Restaurant assn be able to limit the number of restaurant in Albany because there were to many already in existance?

I would think that this would be termed anti trust.

Danno

"Audio of My PowerPoint Testimony This Morning"

Dear Board members,

I send Steve and Dan my PowerPoint presentation today which was used during my invited testimony this morning in front of the interim meeting of the House Business & Labor Committee I would recommend going to the Oregon Legislature website and listen to my testimony but even more so the comments and questions of the Legislative Committee Members. We will continue to shake the foundation of the medical approach with its inappropriate over-reliance on drugs and surgery in this case relative to Oregon’s injured workers. The State of Oregon and its Workers Compensation Division should be concerned for what is in the best interest of injured workers not just cost.

Again, you will find the comments and questions by the Chair and Committee members very interesting they mostly are responding to the arbitrary restrictions on us as a provider group and to the statistics on drugs and surgery….trust me we will continue to “stir the pot” with evidence of the considerable downside to the medical model of healthcare and treatment of injured workers and the need to return full attending physician status to chiropractic physicians and to open or at least significantly expand the current closed panel MCOs. To listen to my testimony go here:

http://www.leg.state.or.us/

on the top of the webpage click on “Audio/Video” then scroll down to “Audio Archives” then click on “2011 Interim” then click on “Archives of Committee Meetings from the 2011 Interim” scroll down to “House Committees” click on “Business & Labor” click on “9/21/2011 9:00 AM” you will need to download free “Realplayer” if you don’t have it on your computer. Lastly click on the fast forward button on the Realplayer view screen until you get to min. “20:22” in other words 20mins and 22 seconds into the hearing and my testimony begins……If you are interested in viewing the PowerPoint slides I used for my testimony let me know and I’ll forward those to you.

Cheers and see you tomorrow night,

Vern