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I would suggest she contact one of the many Alcohol treatment facilities, and see if an interverntion is possible. THey are really good at just this kind of thing.....tell you options, etc. Sounds like he needs a work-up to see if there is indeed alcohol dementia. If he won't go voluntarily, they can admit him involuntarily if he is a danger to himself or others. I'd also get it documented by calling the police if he is on a tirade and out of control.

In addition, she may need to be coached on getting out of the environment for her own safety. RElatives, safe houses, etc.

Don WHite, RN,DC

In a message dated 11/28/2011 12:21:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, dro@... writes:

Legal folks and docs,

An acquaintance of mine, not a pt, in her upper 70’s has a husband of similar age who is described as alcoholic and who is now becoming senile as well. She describes him has having ‘rages of anger’ and being ‘obsessed with sex.’ He put his cane through an $800 TV set last week. She is beginning to have some concerns for her own safety. She and her children are obviously concerned but have no idea how to handle this situation or what options they have. She is torn between remaining in a potentially unsafe environment and making the situation worse if she moves out. As she described the situation to me it sounded like he needs to be in a facility of some kind.

How do I advise this woman? What are her options?

Thanks in advance for your responses.

Larry L. Oliver, DC

408 NW 7th

Corvallis, OR

541-757-9933

fax 541-757-7713

www.heresco.com

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Two words:

Professional help.

The wife has been affected enough that she is probably incapable of sane choices and is in fear.

The old guy needs an intervention but she needs to have her safety as a primary concern.

It’s also going to be a process as everyone is typically in denial.

The sex obsession thing is a part of the breakdown of the brain in some manner. Stonebrink used to talk about the “dirty old man” syndrome, but I can’t remember exactly how the degeneration occurs.

Diplomates?

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E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

From: Larry Oliver <dro@...>

Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:21:12 -0800

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Subject: Question of safety

Legal folks and docs,

An acquaintance of mine, not a pt, in her upper 70’s has a husband of similar age who is described as alcoholic and who is now becoming senile as well. She describes him has having ‘rages of anger’ and being ‘obsessed with sex.’ He put his cane through an $800 TV set last week. She is beginning to have some concerns for her own safety. She and her children are obviously concerned but have no idea how to handle this situation or what options they have. She is torn between remaining in a potentially unsafe environment and making the situation worse if she moves out. As she described the situation to me it sounded like he needs to be in a facility of some kind.

How do I advise this woman? What are her options?

Thanks in advance for your responses.

Larry L. Oliver, DC

408 NW 7th

Corvallis, OR

541-757-9933

fax 541-757-7713

www.heresco.com

dro@...

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All,The sex'l aspect comes when the elderly have small strokes in the frontal lobe; that is the area where our social 'stops' are. As that degenerates, all the stops are off ..... let the games begin! Minerals anyone? SunnySunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834www.drsunnykierstyn.com dro@...; From: drscott@...Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:35:10 -0800Subject: Re: Question of safety

Two words:

Professional help.

The wife has been affected enough that she is probably incapable of sane choices and is in fear.

The old guy needs an intervention but she needs to have her safety as a primary concern.

It’s also going to be a process as everyone is typically in denial.

The sex obsession thing is a part of the breakdown of the brain in some manner. Stonebrink used to talk about the “dirty old man” syndrome, but I can’t remember exactly how the degeneration occurs.

Diplomates?

--

E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

From: Larry Oliver <dro@...>

Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:21:12 -0800

< >

Subject: Question of safety

Legal folks and docs,

An acquaintance of mine, not a pt, in her upper 70’s has a husband of similar age who is described as alcoholic and who is now becoming senile as well. She describes him has having ‘rages of anger’ and being ‘obsessed with sex.’ He put his cane through an $800 TV set last week. She is beginning to have some concerns for her own safety. She and her children are obviously concerned but have no idea how to handle this situation or what options they have. She is torn between remaining in a potentially unsafe environment and making the situation worse if she moves out. As she described the situation to me it sounded like he needs to be in a facility of some kind.

How do I advise this woman? What are her options?

Thanks in advance for your responses.

Larry L. Oliver, DC

408 NW 7th

Corvallis, OR

541-757-9933

fax 541-757-7713

www.heresco.com

dro@...

The information contained in this electronic message may contain protected health information which is confidential under applicable law and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the recipient of the message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received the communication in error, please notify Heresco Chiropractic & Associates, 408 NW 7th St, Corvallis, OR 97330, 541-757-9933 and purge the communication immediately without making any copy or distribution.

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