Re: Cranial Distraction-Oh my!

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Oh gawd, , these are the ones that used to make me physically ill. What can be thought up is truly dracoian ... especially now, now that I know how easy it is to move a skull. Not knowing any particulars, it would b ehard to make any conjectures or suggestions. Get her to one of the ones up there .... Jackie ?, Joyce Shultz, Guimot ...... there are several other craniopaths ther ein Portland ... we need a list of them. Sunny Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834www.drsunnykierstyn.com From: portlandchiro1@...Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 16:20:52 -0700Subject: Cranial Distraction-Oh my!

OK gang-just when I thought I'd heard of every draconian procedure there was to help save suffering humanity today I just learned a new one. A potential new patient just let me know that her four year old daughter had just had surgery for cranial stenosis. She said they use screws to expand the skull in a procedure known as cranial distraction. This sounds like a Halloween medical nightmare to me .

Any one have any suggestions for this ladies daughter? It sounds to me like a job for super cranial-sacral doc. Sunny, anyone?-- Schneider DC PDX

[Guest guest]

HOw sad! This is where we need guidelines in health care that all patients be examined by a natural health care practitioner prior to any surgical or pharmaceutical procedures, unless immediately life threatening. This child may have been helped tremendously with cranial work and may not have gone through the nightmare she is in. And they think we're the witch doctors!!!!

Janet L Rueger, DCCertified in CraniopathyCertified BodyTalk Practitioner149 Clear Creek Dr., # 105Ashland, OR, 97520541-690-6799bodytalk@...

On Nov 1, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Schneider wrote:

OK gang-just when I thought I'd heard of every draconian procedure there was to help save suffering humanity today I just learned a new one. A potential new patient just let me know that her four year old daughter had just had surgery for cranial stenosis. She said they use screws to expand the skull in a procedure known as cranial distraction. This sounds like a Halloween medical nightmare to me .

Any one have any suggestions for this ladies daughter? It sounds to me like a job for super cranial-sacral doc. Sunny, anyone?-- Schneider DC PDX

[Guest guest]

This might be the condition the parent is describing:

Craniosynostosis

Premature closure of sutures

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002557/

If so, surgery and distraction is the treatment for the fused suture.

s. fuchs dc

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> > OK gang-just when I thought I'd heard of every draconian procedure there was

to help save suffering humanity today I just learned a new one. A potential new

patient just let me know that her four year old daughter had just had surgery

for cranial stenosis. She said they use screws to expand the skull in a

procedure known as cranial distraction. This sounds like a Halloween medical

nightmare to me .

> >

> > Any one have any suggestions for this ladies daughter? It sounds to me like

a job for super cranial-sacral doc. Sunny, anyone?

> >

> > --

> > Schneider DC

> > PDX

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Just because the medical establishment sees surgery and distraction as the only treatment, that does NOT mean that cranial work may not make a significant difference. I've seen too many situations respond wonderfully to chiropractic and cranial, where the medical prognosis was very negative. Let's stop selling ourselves short. I realize cranial may not have made a difference and it might have made a wonderful difference, so to have done it first, before a drastic procedure that cannot be reversed would make sense to me.Hopefully more chiropractors will stop allowing themselves to be boxed in by professions (?medical) who have no concept of the power of chiropractic or of cranial work.

Janet L Rueger, DCCertified in CraniopathyCertified BodyTalk Practitioner149 Clear Creek Dr., # 105Ashland, OR, 97520541-690-6799bodytalk@...

On Nov 2, 2011, at 1:03 PM, sharron wrote:

This might be the condition the parent is describing:

Craniosynostosis

Premature closure of sutures

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002557/

If so, surgery and distraction is the treatment for the fused suture.

s. fuchs dc

>

> > OK gang-just when I thought I'd heard of every draconian procedure there was to help save suffering humanity today I just learned a new one. A potential new patient just let me know that her four year old daughter had just had surgery for cranial stenosis. She said they use screws to expand the skull in a procedure known as cranial distraction. This sounds like a Halloween medical nightmare to me .

> >

> > Any one have any suggestions for this ladies daughter? It sounds to me like a job for super cranial-sacral doc. Sunny, anyone?

> >

> > --

> > Schneider DC

> > PDX

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My son’s head did not “cone” when he was born so the plates overlapped and got stuck. His infant pictures look like a Klingon with ridges across the top!

They wouldn’t move or expand.

The barbarians, er medial establishment said that occasionally kids need to have their sutures surgically opened and a Teflon strip installed temporarily.

I said, “You first.”

Took the kid to Card who did nasal specifics and the kid’s head returned to normal.

Soft spot the size of a dime appeared immediately.

Previous pooping issue abated.

--

E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

From: " Janet L Rueger, DC " <bodytalk@...>

Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:40:18 -0700

sharron <sharronf@...>

Cc: < >

Subject: Re: Cranial Distraction-Oh my!

Just because the medical establishment sees surgery and distraction as the only treatment, that does NOT mean that cranial work may not make a significant difference. I've seen too many situations respond wonderfully to chiropractic and cranial, where the medical prognosis was very negative. Let's stop selling ourselves short. I realize cranial may not have made a difference and it might have made a wonderful difference, so to have done it first, before a drastic procedure that cannot be reversed would make sense to me.

Hopefully more chiropractors will stop allowing themselves to be boxed in by professions (?medical) who have no concept of the power of chiropractic or of cranial work.

Janet L Rueger, DC

Certified in Craniopathy

Certified BodyTalk Practitioner

149 Clear Creek Dr., # 105

Ashland, OR, 97520

541-690-6799

bodytalk@...

On Nov 2, 2011, at 1:03 PM, sharron wrote:

This might be the condition the parent is describing:

Craniosynostosis

Premature closure of sutures

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002557/

If so, surgery and distraction is the treatment for the fused suture.

s. fuchs dc

>

> > OK gang-just when I thought I'd heard of every draconian procedure there was to help save suffering humanity today I just learned a new one. A potential new patient just let me know that her four year old daughter had just had surgery for cranial stenosis. She said they use screws to expand the skull in a procedure known as cranial distraction. This sounds like a Halloween medical nightmare to me .

> >

> > Any one have any suggestions for this ladies daughter? It sounds to me like a job for super cranial-sacral doc. Sunny, anyone?

> >

> > --

> > Schneider DC

> > PDX

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ah, but they were 'overlapped' not fused. That is a different story.

s. fuchs dc

From: Abrahamson [mailto:drscott@...] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 2:57 PMJanet L Rueger, DC; Sharron FuchsCc: Subject: Re: Cranial Distraction-Oh my!

My son’s head did not “cone” when he was born so the plates overlapped and got stuck. His infant pictures look like a Klingon with ridges across the top!They wouldn’t move or expand.The barbarians, er medial establishment said that occasionally kids need to have their sutures surgically opened and a Teflon strip installed temporarily.I said, “You first.”Took the kid to Card who did nasal specifics and the kid’s head returned to normal.Soft spot the size of a dime appeared immediately.Previous pooping issue abated.-- E. Abrahamson, D.C.Chiropractic physicianLake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic315 Second StreetLake Oswego, OR 97034503-635-6246Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

From: "Janet L Rueger, DC" <bodytalk@...>Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:40:18 -0700sharron <sharronf@...>Cc: < >Subject: Re: Cranial Distraction-Oh my! Just because the medical establishment sees surgery and distraction as the only treatment, that does NOT mean that cranial work may not make a significant difference. I've seen too many situations respond wonderfully to chiropractic and cranial, where the medical prognosis was very negative. Let's stop selling ourselves short. I realize cranial may not have made a difference and it might have made a wonderful difference, so to have done it first, before a drastic procedure that cannot be reversed would make sense to me.Hopefully more chiropractors will stop allowing themselves to be boxed in by professions (?medical) who have no concept of the power of chiropractic or of cranial work.Janet L Rueger, DCCertified in CraniopathyCertified BodyTalk Practitioner149 Clear Creek Dr., # 105Ashland, OR, 97520541-690-6799bodytalk@...On Nov 2, 2011, at 1:03 PM, sharron wrote:

This might be the condition the parent is describing:CraniosynostosisPremature closure of sutureshttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002557/If so, surgery and distraction is the treatment for the fused suture.s. fuchs dc> > > OK gang-just when I thought I'd heard of every draconian procedure there was to help save suffering humanity today I just learned a new one. A potential new patient just let me know that her four year old daughter had just had surgery for cranial stenosis. She said they use screws to expand the skull in a procedure known as cranial distraction. This sounds like a Halloween medical nightmare to me . > > > > Any one have any suggestions for this ladies daughter? It sounds to me like a job for super cranial-sacral doc. Sunny, anyone?> > > > -- > > Schneider DC > > PDX> >>

[Guest guest]

Per the response below:

…‘cranial work may work’…..’MAY”

is the operant word. I can understand ‘MAY’ but until more facts are known,

including imaging that shows the extent of fusion (not overlapped, not

hypomobile, not held by a membranous substance that can be stretched, but

actually osseously FUSED) then I will know that cranial work WILL work when I

see the published peer reviewed proof of it.

s. fuchs dc

From: Janet L Rueger,

DC [mailto:bodytalk@...]

Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011

2:40 PM

Sharron Fuchs

Cc:

Subject: Re: Cranial

Distraction-Oh my!

Just because the medical establishment sees surgery and distraction as

the only treatment, that does NOT mean that cranial work may not make a

significant difference. I've seen too many situations respond wonderfully

to chiropractic and cranial, where the medical prognosis was very negative.

Let's stop selling ourselves short. I realize cranial may not have

made a difference and it might have made a wonderful difference, so to have

done it first, before a drastic procedure that cannot be reversed would make

sense to me.

Hopefully more chiropractors will stop allowing themselves to be boxed

in by professions (?medical) who have no concept of the power of chiropractic

or of cranial work.

Janet L Rueger, DC

Certified in

Craniopathy

Certified BodyTalk

Practitioner

149 Clear Creek Dr., # 105

Ashland, OR, 97520

541-690-6799

bodytalk@...

On Nov 2, 2011, at 1:03 PM, sharron wrote:

This might be the

condition the parent is describing:

Craniosynostosis

Premature closure of sutures

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002557/

If so, surgery and distraction is the treatment for the fused suture.

s. fuchs dc

>

> > OK gang-just when I thought I'd heard of every draconian procedure

there was to help save suffering humanity today I just learned a new one. A

potential new patient just let me know that her four year old daughter had just

had surgery for cranial stenosis. She said they use screws to expand the skull

in a procedure known as cranial distraction. This sounds like a Halloween

medical nightmare to me .

> >

> > Any one have any suggestions for this ladies daughter? It sounds to

me like a job for super cranial-sacral doc. Sunny, anyone?

> >

> > --

> > Schneider DC

> > PDX

> >

>