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....interesting, "targeting DC's who are too busy to provide wellness education in their practice". BS! I provide wellness education to virtually every patient. I received one of these letters and they listed one patient of mine they had sent info to. I had last seen him 8 months prior for an episode of rib dysfunction associated with excessive road biking. He did well with care, which included soft tissue work and exercise. Saw him 4 x for the complaint! Wow, I really contributing to those skyrocketing healthcare costs.Now, on another note, I play basketball 2x/wk with a bunch of old farts. One guy got an elbow to he head, right above the eye. Massive hematoma, no LOC but "dazed". Felt pretty crappy later in the evening, went to urgent care, had brief work-up, MRI of brain, 2 anti-nausea pills dispensed ($75 for the pills), diagnosis of mild concussion and no other treatment of plan. Priceless? No, it was $5400 for the visit. Wonder if he got counsel from his insurer, "stop playing bball you old fool!"? Seitz, DC Tuality Physicians 730-D SE Oak St Hillsboro, OR 97123 (503)640-3724 From: lilyroselyn22@...Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:39:14 -0800Subject: ODS program

Listmates,

I spoke at length with an ODS 'health coach' today who explained that the purpose of the program (offering pts free20 min. phone consult 2-3x/mo) is to assist in reinforcing healthy behavior change (i.e."reducing skyrocketing costs of low back injuries"). The program has been offered for the past 2 years to MDs (cardiologists, endocrinologists, family practice) in the areas of diabetes and hypertension mgmt). Now they've added a 'spine and joint care' program and are sending out info to all ODS insured.and their chiropractic physicians. I've requested a copy of the printed materials utilized in this 'spinal care program'.. The ODS 'coach' I spoke with explained that they were targeting DCs who 'are too busy' to provide wellness education in their practice. When I asked about details re the education model used to develop this program I was told the coach had

worked in DC offices for 3 years. I'll report back to the listserve after I receive the materials. FYI: ODS 'coach line': 503-948-5548..

Lily Roselyn

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I think a better title would be "Health Steering" rather than

"Health Coaching"

Lyndon McGill, D.C.

Salem, Oregon

www.SalemSpineClinic.com

Evolving Doctors

On 2/22/2011 11:45 AM, BRIAN SEITZ wrote:

 

....interesting, "targeting DC's who are too busy to

provide wellness education in their practice".  BS!  I

provide wellness education to virtually every patient.  I

received one of these letters and they listed one patient

of mine they had sent info to.  I had last seen him 8

months prior for an episode of rib dysfunction associated

with excessive road biking.  He did well with care, which

included soft tissue work and exercise. Saw him 4 x for

the complaint!  Wow, I really contributing to those

skyrocketing healthcare costs.

Now, on another note, I play basketball 2x/wk with a

bunch of old farts.  One guy got an elbow to he head,

right above the eye.  Massive hematoma, no LOC but

"dazed".  Felt pretty crappy later in the evening, went to

urgent care, had brief work-up, MRI of brain, 2

anti-nausea pills dispensed ($75 for the pills), diagnosis

of mild concussion and no other treatment of plan.

 Priceless? No, it was $5400 for the visit.  Wonder if he

got counsel from his insurer, "stop playing bball you old

fool!"?

Seitz, DC Tuality Physicians 730-D SE Oak St

Hillsboro, OR 97123 (503)640-3724

From: lilyroselyn22@...

Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:39:14 -0800

Subject: ODS program

 

Listmates,

 

I spoke at length with an ODS 'health coach'

today who explained that the purpose of the

program (offering pts  free20 min. phone consult

2-3x/mo) is to assist in reinforcing healthy

behavior change (i.e."reducing skyrocketing

costs of low back injuries"). The program has

been offered for the past 2 years to MDs

(cardiologists, endocrinologists, family

practice) in the areas of diabetes and

hypertension mgmt).  Now they've added a 'spine

and joint care' program and are sending out info

to all ODS insured.and their chiropractic

physicians. I've requested a copy of the

printed materials utilized in this 'spinal care

program'..  The ODS 'coach' I spoke with

explained that they were targeting DCs who 'are

too busy' to provide wellness education in their

practice. When I asked about

details re the education model used to develop

this program I was told the coach had worked in

DC offices for 3 years.  I'll report back to the

listserve after I receive the materials. FYI: 

ODS 'coach line': 503-948-5548..

 

Lily Roselyn

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Thanks for the update, please do keep us informed. Larry L. Oliver, DC408 NW 7thCorvallis, OR541-757-9933fax 541-757-7713www.heresco.com dro@... The information contained in this electronic message may contain protected health information which is confidential under applicable law and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the recipient of the message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received the communication in error, please notify Heresco Chiropractic & Associates, 408 NW 7th St, Corvallis, OR 97330, 541-757-9933 and purge the communication immediately without making any copy or distribution. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Lily RoselynSent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:39 AM Subject: ODS program Listmates, I spoke at length with an ODS 'health coach' today who explained that the purpose of the program (offering pts free20 min. phone consult 2-3x/mo) is to assist in reinforcing healthy behavior change (i.e. " reducing skyrocketing costs of low back injuries " ). The program has been offered for the past 2 years to MDs (cardiologists, endocrinologists, family practice) in the areas of diabetes and hypertension mgmt). Now they've added a 'spine and joint care' program and are sending out info to all ODS insured.and their chiropractic physicians. I've requested a copy of the printed materials utilized in this 'spinal care program'.. The ODS 'coach' I spoke with explained that they were targeting DCs who 'are too busy' to provide wellness education in their practice. When I asked about details re the education model used to develop this program I was told the coach had worked in DC offices for 3 years. I'll report back to the listserve after I receive the materials. FYI: ODS 'coach line': 503-948-5548.. Lily Roselyn''

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yea, what a bunch of junk. Wouldn’t have anything to do with attempting to stave off a Chiropractic Visit would it? Wow.

ph Medlin D.C.

From: Lily Roselyn

Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:39 AM

Subject: ODS program

Listmates,

I spoke at length with an ODS 'health coach' today who explained that the purpose of the program (offering pts free20 min. phone consult 2-3x/mo) is to assist in reinforcing healthy behavior change (i.e."reducing skyrocketing costs of low back injuries"). The program has been offered for the past 2 years to MDs (cardiologists, endocrinologists, family practice) in the areas of diabetes and hypertension mgmt). Now they've added a 'spine and joint care' program and are sending out info to all ODS insured.and their chiropractic physicians. I've requested a copy of the printed materials utilized in this 'spinal care program'.. The ODS 'coach' I spoke with explained that they were targeting DCs who 'are too busy' to provide wellness education in their practice. When I asked about details re the education model used to develop this program I was told the coach had worked in DC offices for 3 years. I'll report back to the listserve after I receive the materials. FYI: ODS 'coach line': 503-948-5548..

Lily Roselyn

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Today, I was a "proud recipient" of the "Dear colleague" ODS letter announcing and asking my support for the "ODS Spine and Joint Care health coaching program."

I called the number listed and spoke with "Trixie" and asked how many chiropractors were coaching; she said none.

I asked how many orthopedic physicians and she said none.

I asked how many sports-trained individuals there were on the coaching staff and she said none.

She did say there was a naturopath on staff, but there didn't seem to be any special qualifications for his/her status as a coach.

HMMM. If these folks have no special training, how can they be "coaches?"

Christian Mathisen, DC, CCWFN

3654 S Pacific Hwy

Medford, OR 97501

cmathdc@...

ODS program

Listmates,

I spoke at length with an ODS 'health coach' today who explained that the purpose of the program (offering pts free20 min. phone consult 2-3x/mo) is to assist in reinforcing healthy behavior change (i.e."reducing skyrocketing costs of low back injuries"). The program has been offered for the past 2 years to MDs (cardiologists, endocrinologists, family practice) in the areas of diabetes and hypertension mgmt). Now they've added a 'spine and joint care' program and are sending out info to all ODS insured.and their chiropractic physicians. I've requested a copy of the printed materials utilized in this 'spinal care program'.. The ODS 'coach' I spoke with explained that they were targeting DCs who 'are too busy' to provide wellness education in their practice. When I asked about details re the education model used to develop this program I was told the coach had worked in DC offices for 3 years. I'll report back to the listserve after I receive the materials. FYI: ODS 'coach line': 503-948-5548..

Lily Roselyn

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I went to their website. DC’s are listed under Medical, subcategory alternative providers. They list 6 docs for our office who are no longer here, one from back in the 90’s and one who left in 2001! Larry L. Oliver, DC408 NW 7thCorvallis, OR541-757-9933fax 541-757-7713www.heresco.com dro@... The information contained in this electronic message may contain protected health information which is confidential under applicable law and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the recipient of the message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received the communication in error, please notify Heresco Chiropractic & Associates, 408 NW 7th St, Corvallis, OR 97330, 541-757-9933 and purge the communication immediately without making any copy or distribution. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of BRIAN SEITZSent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:46 AMoregon DCsSubject: RE: ODS program ...interesting, " targeting DC's who are too busy to provide wellness education in their practice " . BS! I provide wellness education to virtually every patient. I received one of these letters and they listed one patient of mine they had sent info to. I had last seen him 8 months prior for an episode of rib dysfunction associated with excessive road biking. He did well with care, which included soft tissue work and exercise. Saw him 4 x for the complaint! Wow, I really contributing to those skyrocketing healthcare costs. Now, on another note, I play basketball 2x/wk with a bunch of old farts. One guy got an elbow to he head, right above the eye. Massive hematoma, no LOC but " dazed " . Felt pretty crappy later in the evening, went to urgent care, had brief work-up, MRI of brain, 2 anti-nausea pills dispensed ($75 for the pills), diagnosis of mild concussion and no other treatment of plan. Priceless? No, it was $5400 for the visit. Wonder if he got counsel from his insurer, " stop playing bball you old fool! " ? Seitz, DC Tuality Physicians 730-D SE Oak St Hillsboro, OR 97123 (503)640-3724 From: lilyroselyn22@...Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:39:14 -0800Subject: ODS program Listmates, I spoke at length with an ODS 'health coach' today who explained that the purpose of the program (offering pts free20 min. phone consult 2-3x/mo) is to assist in reinforcing healthy behavior change (i.e. " reducing skyrocketing costs of low back injuries " ). The program has been offered for the past 2 years to MDs (cardiologists, endocrinologists, family practice) in the areas of diabetes and hypertension mgmt). Now they've added a 'spine and joint care' program and are sending out info to all ODS insured.and their chiropractic physicians. I've requested a copy of the printed materials utilized in this 'spinal care program'.. The ODS 'coach' I spoke with explained that they were targeting DCs who 'are too busy' to provide wellness education in their practice. When I asked about details re the education model used to develop this program I was told the coach had worked in DC offices for 3 years. I'll report back to the listserve after I receive the materials. FYI: ODS 'coach line': 503-948-5548.. Lily Roselyn''

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