Guest guest Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 In a message dated 3/6/2003 10:12:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, smilinggail@... writes: > If your cubs get out of line, you swat them too. I could > deal with that. If you're a bear, your mate EXPECTS you to wake up > growling. > He EXPECTS that you will have hairy legs and excess body fat. > Yup...gonna be a bear. > LOLOLOL Gail!!! Very cute!!! It's miserable here in Philly, snow, rain, ice. And I just got a call from school saying Allie doesn't feel well. But I have no car today; n got a flat on Duff's car last night so Duff took mine. And AAA came and couldn't get the lug nuts off, so it has to be towed. I feel bad for Allie....I told the principal to let her put her head down on her desk for the next two hours. Donna P.S. Guess what Margaret? It was the same guy who came when you had problems with your car. He said to say Hi....LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 In a message dated 3/6/03 12:59:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, Duffey48@... writes: << LOLOLOL Gail!!! Very cute!!! It's miserable here in Philly, snow, rain, ice. And I just got a call from school saying Allie doesn't feel well. But I have no car today; n got a flat on Duff's car last night so Duff took mine. And AAA came and couldn't get the lug nuts off, so it has to be towed. I feel bad for Allie....I told the principal to let her put her head down on her desk for the next two hours. Donna >> Awww, poor Allie. Nothing worse than being sick and stuck at school. I remember going through that and all I wanted was my Mom. Hope she feels better soon and doesn't share it with the whole family. Gail :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 LOL Gail!!! Yup, I wanna be a bear!!!!!!!! Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2006 Report Share Posted August 19, 2006 I sometimes make small talk, but only at places like the register in a store, or in lines. Usually I will wait for the other person to say something first, but sometimes I will speak first, especially if just to the cashier. These comments will usually be something about the store, lately how warm it has been near the doors where the registers are. I have found that this has been good practice since the transaction limits the amount of time you have to spend speaking and have a good excuse to leave, especially if there is a line. Just don't be too engaging and keep it light and not personal. It has taken practice, but I can handle it for short periods of time now. Still, I would REALLY hate being stuck next to a chatty person on the train. That would be agonizing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Not about weather, anyway. The sound of obviously unintellectual old folks cackling stupidly to each other as they say the same things about that subject as they have 100 times before, + making no particular point by it even, makes me want to scream. I get utterly stuck in conversation + can't get into spontaneous small groups in occasions that fragment into them. > > Do you, as an Aspie, ever make small talk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Hey Maurice, Haven't seen you around for a while. Nice to see you posting again. Tom Administrator Do you, as an Aspie, ever make small talk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Hello! (First posting to this list.) If I can go someplace else, I go. If I have to stay, sometimes I just start talking about whatever I find interesting that is somewhat related. -"If they won't stay out of my mind, then I won't stay out of theirs" is my philosophy. As you might surmise, lots of people think I'm an obnoxious know-it-all. If they start talking about the weather then I talk about, perhaps, the weather on the Sun-- http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/17/1339235 http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/15aug_backwards.htm For a long time I listened to books on tape while riding the bus nearly everyday. Currently I'm looking for some cheap gunnery-range ear-protectors. I'm thinking of slipping some of those dime-sized ear-hole phone wires underneath and playing some very soft music to mask what background noises get through. I have this weird feeling that neurotypicals chatter away as part of some kind of secret code operating at the level of instincts developing some kind of semi-telepathic rapport...group mind...Borg...? Has anyone here read Neal son's Snowcrash? That's how I think of chatter- a kind of linking up of minds at the assembly-code level of instinctual behaviors. Heidegger wrote a real interesting passage about people wasting time in idle chatter. Posting from a blog I've never seen before I found some interesting comments on the passage: ------------------------------------- http://www.fluxfactory.org/otr/2004_05_01_blogmm.html Tuesday, May 04, 2004 Calling this venture Idle Chatter is an in-joke probably among even those relative few who have had the time or folly to slog through all four hundred and thirty-seven pages of Heidegger's Being and Time. It's a philosophical in-joke, then. Probably the worst kind of in-joke. But I'm sticking to it anyway. I'll explain. Division I, Section V, Paragraph 35 of Being and Time is entitled Idle Chatter. Macquarrie and , in the Harper edition translate it as 'Idle Talk.' The German is Gerede, which has an undeniably pejorative connotation. Macquarrie and recognize as much in footnote 1 of that section, page 211 of their edition. They write, "It is not easy to translate 'Gerede' in a way which does not carry disparaging connotations. Fortunately Heidegger makes his meaning quite clear." That is a funny thing to say since they seem to have missed his greater point altogether. But what they refer to is the first few lines of the section. There, Heidegger writes, "The expression 'idle talk' is not to be used here in a disparaging signification. Terminologically, it signifies a positive phenomenon which constitutes the kind of Being of everyday Dasein's understanding and interpreting."So, Macquarrie and translate Gerede as 'idle talk' instead of the more natural 'idle chatter' in order to take account of this anachronistic usage. When Heidegger uses the term Gerede, they surmise, he is talking about the way human beings communicate with one another in an everyday manner. And what could be wrong with that? For Heidegger, plenty. Which isn't to say that Heidegger is opposed to Gerede per se. Human beings wouldn't be human beings if they didn't have everyday means of communication. What Heidegger objects to about Gerede is that in modern society it threatens to become the dominant means of communication. This would lead, for Heidegger, to a society that has no depth, to human beings who have lost touch with the more important questions. As he puts it in his inimitable style: "Idle talk, which closes things off in the way we have designated, is the kind of Being which belongs to Dasein's understanding when that understanding has been uprooted. Ontologically this means that when Dasein maintains itself in idle talk, it is - as Being-in-the-world - cut off from its primary and primordially genuine relationships-of-Being towards the world, towards Dasein-with, and towards its very Being-in."I call this column Idle Chatter as an affirmation of all the things that Heidegger would denigrate. For Heidegger is ultimately attacking the modern aspects of civil society, cosmopolitanism, urbanity, and fluidity. One can imagine him sitting in a trolley car in Berlin disgusted by all the idle chatter murmuring up around him. I title this venture Idle Chatter in honor of all the murmuring on the A train and the 7 train and the hopelessly ungrounded streets of the world's great, if flawed, metropolis. I suspect that there are no 'genuine relationships-of-Being towards the world.' I propose we not be bothered by that fact. Idle Chatter isn't bothered by that fact. It takes it for granted and then peers in to all the things that are remarkable and interesting about the world as it is. --------------------------------------------------------- (By the way, if I've violated any social norms of this group, it was not intended. If you tell me what I've done wrong I can avoid doing it in the future.) Cheers! Heph maurice <megaknee@...> wrote: Not about weather, anyway. The sound of obviously unintellectual old folks cackling stupidly to each other as they say the same things about that subject as they have 100 times before, + making no particular point by it even, makes me want to scream.I get utterly stuck in conversation + can't get into spontaneous small groups in occasions that fragment into them. >> Do you, as an Aspie, ever make small talk? Messenger with Voice. 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Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 " I have this weird feeling that neurotypicals chatter away as part of some kind of secret code operating at the level of instincts developing some kind of semi-telepathic rapport...group mind...Borg...? " I have the same theory. The exchange of idle chatter is perhaps a way of establishing and/or reestablishing social bonds and testing the other about knowledge and intelligence. I think that's why Aspies tend to fall by the wayside. They come across as insufferable know-it-alls. " (By the way, if I've violated any social norms of this group, it was not intended. If you tell me what I've done wrong I can avoid doing it in the future.) " " Cheers! " Heph You've done nothing wrong. A lot of us have been out or busy lately, so posting is low these days. Welcome to the group. We are glad to have you. Feel free to talk about anything that comes to mind. Tom Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 In a message dated 8/22/2006 12:21:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes: I have the same theory. The exchange of idle chatter is perhaps a way of establishing and/or reestablishing social bonds and testing the other about knowledge and intelligence. I agree with this part, that chitter chatter is about establishing bonds and such, but not like the borg. The borg were linked together but I doubt they did much idle chattering. Their conversation was probably more about vital information and such, making them a bit more like us, unfortunately. However, I think we would make bad borgs because I doubt many of us would like being tied up like that and not able to follow our interests, nor would like having all those voices nattering in our heads all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Hi Heph, just wanted to say - welcome. > > Hello! > > (First posting to this list.) > > (SNIP) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Gosh, I can relate to being stuck in situations where all around me is small talk and I hate it :-( A few years ago I learnt to do a little small talk, but cannot sustain it for very long at all and as you said when I try to steer the conversation more indepth doesn't go down well - wonder why? Do most non-aspies not like to think too deeply about things? > > Yes, but only a little. I look at it like a spice--okay in small > amounts, but not the meat. A lot of times I end up either trying to > make it funny or interesting or switch to a deeper topic and that > usually doesn't go over very well. I usually get that 'aaggh!' feeling > if it goes on to long and want to run away or scream! The worst is > being stuck in a car full of women who are only doing small talk. > You're stuck and you're in a cramped small space and it's usually loud. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2006 Report Share Posted August 24, 2006 Don't know if I should really point this out, but weather has been discussed on this forum previously :-) > > > > " Not about weather, anyway. The sound of obviously unintellectual old > > folks cackling stupidly to each other as they say the same things > > about that subject as they have 100 times before, + making no > > particular point by it even, makes me want to scream. " > > Ditto. It's hot, it's cold, it's dry, it's wet. Yeah, duh. Welcome to > planet earth. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Hephaestus Clubfoot <lemnosforge@...> wrote: > > . > 12 tips for making small talk After many years I'm finally able to do this sufficiently (but sometimes I have a more difficult time than others). I still have a problem with greeting everyone in the room though. Even if I try, I miss someone and then they take it personally. I've found that poise and showing you care are more important than what you actually do. After years of feeling inadequate and embarrassed, I finally realized that acting confident in what you're doing, whether it's exactly the right thing or not, and apologizing or giving a big smile will work better (though those things are hard enough in themselves to learn!). There's nothing wrong with saying, 'Do I know you?' and if they say, 'yes, me met blah blah blah' you can smile and say, 'oh I'm sorry I don't remember'. Everyone does it. You can blame it on your memory, too, if you're older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Speaking of the weather, Ernesto is supposed to pass either directly over or very close to here on Friday. Mom's going to be having a lot of fun I'm sure since it will be getting here about the time they will be dismissing from school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Speaking of the weather, Ernesto is supposed to pass either directly over or very close to here on Friday. Mom's going to be having a lot of fun I'm sure since it will be getting here about the time they will be dismissing from school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Ugh, i wish the weather would make up it is mind to be cold or warm. couple days ago it was 79, now this morning it was 30 degrees F and so far only 54, must be me being allergic to the house now. We had frost this morning but my allergies keep kicking in, argh, just tired of being on benadryl. Funny how the news station said they could warn central wisconsin but since the northern part is already done with the plants going thru their life cycle they didn't really need to put out a warning. Granada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 ,I am right there with you! I live in central MN, and the weather has been going up and down all week; 80s one day, 60s the next. Saturday it's supposed to be 80 degrees, Sunday back down to 60! and I had to cancel karate practice today because the weather is messing with us so bad. My sinuses have been killing me all day. I have three different kinds of anti-histimines and NONE of them worked today in the slightest! On 10/5/06, Granada Family <robert_g54463@...> wrote: Ugh, i wish the weather would make up it is mind to be cold or warm. coupledays ago it was 79, now this morning it was 30 degrees F and so far only54, must be me being allergic to the house now.We had frost this morning but my allergies keep kicking in, argh, just tired of being on benadryl.Funny how the news station said they could warn central wisconsin but sincethe northern part is already done with the plants going thru their lifecycle they didn't really need to put out a warning. Granada~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick CommunityMessage Archives-/messages Chat:- Scheduled Chats at/chatBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful. /linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderatoremail: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email. 3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into groups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe This group is not intended to diagnose or treat illnesses. No one on this group is qualified to diagnose medical conditions. If you feel you need medical attention, seek the advice of a qualified physician. ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~When nothing is sure, everything is possible.--- Margaret Drabble~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 I bought good air filters to go in each of the four main rooms of my place. Oreck makes reasonably priced ones that have the same type of collection plates as the expensive ones from Sharper Image. The big difference (besides price) is that the Oreck ones have a fan to help circulate the air and so you have some low-level noise. They have an optional charcoal filter that lasts about 2 months to remove odors from the house. We could tell a difference in the air inside my home within 24 hours. My allergies are under much better control. ; ) Willow --- Granada Family <robert_g54463@...> wrote: > Ugh, i wish the weather would make up it is mind to > be cold or warm. couple > days ago it was 79, now this morning it was 30 > degrees F and so far only > 54, must be me being allergic to the house now. > > We had frost this morning but my allergies keep > kicking in, argh, just tired > of being on benadryl. > > Funny how the news station said they could warn > central wisconsin but since > the northern part is already done with the plants > going thru their life > cycle they didn't really need to put out a warning. > > Granada > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 And we all have sinus infections around here. Doctor put me on a different anti histamine but I don't think it is working due to my mouth still itches. Hope the weather clears up for you too, Granada ,I am right there with you! I live in central MN, and the weather has been going up and down all week; 80s one day, 60s the next. Saturday it's supposed to be 80 degrees, Sunday back down to 60! and I had to cancel karate practice today because the weather is messing with us so bad. My sinuses have been killing me all day. I have three different kinds of anti-histimines and NONE of them worked today in the slightest! _._,_.___ .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Willow, I have two air fliters, one in the bedroom and one in the livingroom. I notice I do not have to dust the blinds as much as I used to. The other thing we bought was a UV light on our furnace which is supposed to kill bacteria and mold. We run our furnace fan a lot. Dawn > > > Ugh, i wish the weather would make up it is mind to > > be cold or warm. couple > > days ago it was 79, now this morning it was 30 > > degrees F and so far only > > 54, must be me being allergic to the house now. > > > > We had frost this morning but my allergies keep > > kicking in, argh, just tired > > of being on benadryl. > > > > Funny how the news station said they could warn > > central wisconsin but since > > the northern part is already done with the plants > > going thru their life > > cycle they didn't really need to put out a warning. > > > > Granada > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Thanks for the info. I'll have to look up something on the UV lights. That's new to me. I know my air filters are cutting down on dust. Since I have one dog and am contemplating getting a second one, I need help in dealing with their dander plus the stuff that comes in from outside on their fur. Willow --- xyz_dawn1 <xyz_dawn1@...> wrote: > Willow, > > I have two air fliters, one in the bedroom and one > in the livingroom. > I notice I do not have to dust the blinds as much as > I used to. The > other thing we bought was a UV light on our furnace > which is supposed > to kill bacteria and mold. We run our furnace fan a > lot. > > Dawn > > > > > > > Ugh, i wish the weather would make up it is mind > to > > > be cold or warm. couple > > > days ago it was 79, now this morning it was 30 > > > degrees F and so far only > > > 54, must be me being allergic to the house now. > > > > > > We had frost this morning but my allergies keep > > > kicking in, argh, just tired > > > of being on benadryl. > > > > > > Funny how the news station said they could warn > > > central wisconsin but since > > > the northern part is already done with the > plants > > > going thru their life > > > cycle they didn't really need to put out a > warning. > > > > > > Granada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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