Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Hi Folks... Saw something on the Healthe List about cell phones and the radiations thereof maybe causing problems for the bees....? I don't have the post anymore.... Bees and I have always had an understanding.... Stings only hurt me..... The tradeoff is that if I get stung....that particular bee is going to die, as when they they do such a thing, they leave the stinger in me (it's barbed), and sort of diembowel themselves... When I first moved into the place I'm at, the prior owner left an incredible pile of garbage in one corner of the yard.... The sanitary engineers would not collect it, because it was inside of the fenced yard.... This was in the Summer.... Anyway, in the month between the prior owner leaving, and when myself and the co-owner of the place moved in.....Coupla rainstorms, and crappy garbage bags... I dunno....ditch bees....set up..... , the co-owner is one of those folks that has a bad reaction to bee-stings.... Anyway, I doused myself with citronella EO, and proceeded to move the garbage to the alley, where pickup happened.... I spent the afternoon talking to the bees....and swatting them off when they got too close.... I did have a net around my face... I didn't get stung even one time... To this day....20 years later, bees and I have an understanding, and we get along.... Swat them away all of the time...but the swat is not with malice...just to move them.... The Planet needs bees... They seem to understand where I'm coming from...<G>.... -- W. Bourbonais L'Hermite Aromatique None of the above applies to wasps or yellow jackets.... Ya haveta use chemistry then... There's also no tradeoff with the sting...they can do multiples... Yellow jackets hate fabric softening scent.... So if yer getting invaded....find out how they're coming in, and stuff any brand of fabric softener sheet in there near as you can figure out.... It doesn't kill them like the sprays, just makes them go away... If that doesn't work, have to call he exterminator.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 > > A couple of weeks ago, I was walking past one of my pots of Trilliums > and I noticed a tiny bee on one of the flowers. I was in a rush and > paid it no mind. The next day, it was still there, in the same spot. > I thought, being so tiny, it might have died. Then I got to wondering > about it, and I went to look at it. It was alive. I went and got my > camera, and started taking pictures of it. It's the tiniest bee I've > ever seen -- right around 1/2 " long. It was ever so patient with me > while I was shooting for a good 15 minutes. It even let me transport > it to different flowers (where it could get a fresh start on a new > batch of pollen). After I downloaded the pictures onto my computer, I > decided that I needed to move the pot of Trilliums into the sun to get > some better pics of the little guy. When I went back outside, the bee > was gone. : ( > > I put some of the pics into the Photos section here, under Projects and > Goodies -- Andrine. Can anyone identify what type of bee it is? > > Bzzzzzzz, > Andrine > I looks like a Meliponinae to me. Here in Brazil these are the native ones. We have no native Apis type, but many others, including these meliponinae ones. This one looks like jataí to me. See if you can follow them into the nest. They love holes in the ground, pipes and tubes, cracks in the walls. there is a mini hive in my back yard. They do not compete with Apis.Of course, would you? I wonder if they are native there too or they are migrating... Interesting. Aniba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 " Swat them away all of the time...but the swat is not with malice...just to move them....The Planet needs bees...They seem to understand where I'm coming from " Hi , The bees might be able to sense that you have no fear chemistry in your body when dealing with them. I have a book called " bee shaman " . It seems that some British folks used to use mugwort honey and stings for their rituals. And the venom does have therapeutic value for some MS patients. NP'ers make use of bee products, as well. Science and Spirit, can't have one without the other. I hope the bees survive in the states. It will be a real loss for us if they don't. Best, Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 >>>>>>>>>>>>. It's the tiniest bee I've ever seen -- right around 1/2 " long. It was ever so patient with me while I was shooting for a good 15 minutes. It even let me transport it to different flowers (where it could get a fresh start on a new batch of pollen). After I downloaded the pictures onto my computer, I decided that I needed to move the pot of Trilliums into the sun to get some better pics of the little guy. When I went back outside, the bee was gone. : ( I put some of the pics into the Photos section here, under Projects and Goodies -- Andrine. Can anyone identify what type of bee it is? Bzzzzzzz, Andrine Hi Andrine the bee is soo cute and looks like is having a hell of a party!!!!! absolutely smothered in pollen and looks exceedingly drunk with it LOL :-) the body is quite long almost waspish..... I am no bee expert so someone else may be able to indentify it... thanks lovely photos...... and I love the one of your wedding you slipt in there :-) you look like Snow White with her Prince...... totally magical...xxx --------------------------------- is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your freeaccount today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Hello , Janita, Aniba, All, This is a bit long. Thanks for your great responses. Aniba – you are constantly blowing me away with your great information! Now I have some names to look up. Last year, there was a hive of some sort right next to where I park my car. Bees were constantly going in and out of someplace near the bottom of a very thick-foliaged conifer all day long. I tried to see what kind of bee or wasp it was that zoomed in and out, but I'm a bit wary -- I don't do too well with bee stings, and have to carry an Epi- Pen – an auto-injector full of epinephrine to use in case I get stung. So I guess it's kind of interesting that I would get up close and personal with this little bee. But I just couldn't help it. And, as you can see from the pic of the bee sitting on the edge of the flower – it was looking at me. Kind of like it was saying, " Hi there – how's it going? " Anyway, as for this hive – I couldn't ever tell if there was a hive in the tree, or if the bees were living in the ground. And I was always careful not to move quickly while getting in or out of the car so I didn't spook them, or have one fly into the car with me. Now I'm wondering if that little bee came from there. , Debbie – Maybe I've gotten a little bit of that bee shaman thing. I used to get stung out of the blue for no reason – no perfume, no loud colors. It hasn't happened for a number of years. Maybe something in my chemistry shifted… And Janita – Yeah, it like it was having fun. At one point, the bee seemed to have pollen partly obscuring its eyes. When I look at the pictures, I can't help thinking about how the pollen would fly if the little guy sneezed. (Not that bees sneeze, but it makes me chuckle!) ---- Choooo!! Warning – this part is OT: As for the wedding pics – I just had to share, just for a little while. At one point on that day, one of the really little kids said, " Mommy – can I go see Snow White? " That cracked me up! I hadn't thought of Snow White until I heard that. (I'd been kind of going for Queen ) Only problem – the day was way too short and over too quickly. (And I'm not allowed to sew the clothes for any other wedding or big event ever again – I nearly drove myself and those around me nuts!) Cheers All! Andrine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 And Janita – Yeah, it like it was having fun. At one point, the bee seemed to have pollen partly obscuring its eyes. When I look at the pictures, I can't help thinking about how the pollen would fly if the little guy sneezed. (Not that bees sneeze, but it makes me chuckle!) ---- Choooo!! >>>>> " Mommy – can I go see Snow White? " That cracked me up! I hadn't thought of Snow White until I heard that. (I'd been kind of going for Queen ) Only problem – the day was way too short and over too quickly. (And I'm not allowed to sew the clothes for any other wedding or big event ever again – I nearly drove myself and those around me nuts!) Cheers All! Andrine oh just a little grin to stay on topic 'what perfume were you wearing?' and yay didn't i get it in one!!!! yep ...... I can see the QE but def QE1..... anyway your dark hair and that lace ruff def gave you the 'snow white' look !! Altho you were tech correct with the fan shaped ruff for a 16th century queen..... Janita --------------------------------- is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your freeaccount today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 freunddebbie wrote: > Hi , > > The bees might be able to sense that you have no fear chemistry in your > body when dealing with them. I have a book called " bee shaman " . It > seems that some British folks used to use mugwort honey and stings for > their rituals. And the venom does have therapeutic value for some MS > patients. NP'ers make use of bee products, as well. Science and Spirit, > can't have one without the other. I hope the bees survive in the > states. It will be a real loss for us if they don't. > That's an understatement...... Bees are the primary pollinators for the flowering plants......... Their demise would leave a huge gap in the Ecosystem I think, and I'm not sure what would/could move in to fill that gap.... I've been stung before, but it's only been when I've done something stupid like accidentally stepping on a bee barefoot.... Stupid, bumbling, Homo Sap (I refuse to call us Sapiens)..... Not the bee's fault at all... I think they might actually sense that I like them...... If only because at one time I think it was " proven " that they couldn't fly, but the bees paid no attention at all to that theory.....<G>... The other of the insects that I love are the butterflies.... I once coaxed a Monarch to perch on my fingertips......Was in a weird mood, and just thought good thoughts at it.....how beautiful it was....and how it was making my day by fluttering around me......held out my hand, and damned if it didn't decide to perch there for a bit.... I think the butterflies are on the decline also.....? Flashing Jewels of the Meadows... Seems I see less every year.....and not just the fancier ones like the Swallowtails, Monarchs, Mourning Cloaks, and Red Admirals....but the Whites and Yellows that used to be everywhere, in numbers... I dunno..... -- W. Bourbonais L'Hermite Aromatique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 > oh just a little grin to stay on topic 'what perfume were you wearing?' and yay didn't i get it in one!!!! yep ...... I can see the QE but def QE1..... anyway your dark hair and that lace ruff def gave you the 'snow white' look !! Altho you were tech correct with the fan shaped ruff for a 16th century queen..... Unfortunately, there wasn't time for a perfume -- SACRILEGE!!! And, also unfortunately, a couple of days before the wedding, I went in to have my faded red hair made more brilliant for the day, and SOMEBODY put the wrong stuff on me, and my hair came out almost black. There was no time to fix it, so I went to my wedding with the wrong hair color. Made my skin look so pink and pasty. Oh well. It all worked out anyway, and we got the job done -- we said I do, and all had fun and ate well. If I can find time to get to a Ren faire, I'll both wear an historically correct perfume with my get-up, and have the proper color hair. Okay -- off I go now -- I'm procrastinating..... Andrine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Bourbonais <gwb@...> wrote: freunddebbie wrote: > Hi , > > The bees might be able to sense that you have no fear chemistry in your > body when dealing with them. I have a book called " bee shaman " . It > seems that some British folks used to use mugwort honey and stings for > their rituals. And the venom does have therapeutic value for some MS > patients. NP'ers make use of bee products, as well. Science and Spirit, > can't have one without the other. I hope the bees survive in the > states. It will be a real loss for us if they don't. > That's an understatement...... Bees are the primary pollinators for the flowering plants......... Their demise would leave a huge gap in the Ecosystem I think, and I'm not sure what would/could move in to fill that gap.... Flashing Jewels of the Meadows... Seems I see less every year.....and not just the fancier ones like the Swallowtails, Monarchs, Mourning Cloaks, and Red Admirals....but the Whites and Yellows that used to be everywhere, in numbers... I dunno..... ------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi - I also tend to just move bees out of the way. I had a couple in my blending room a few weeks ago, they went nicely into a paper cup with a index card over the top and were happy to be outside again. I see a lot of bee flies ( nice little metallic flies ) in my yard, especially on the coffee plants and the mango tree. There are other things than honeybees that can pollinate but I think if they native pollinators are more specific as to what they use. Butterflies - I don't know if they are on the decline but I wouldn't be surprised. I have had a wonderful response to the 'bee plants " I've put in my yard. The milkweed plants always have a couple of monarch caterpillars on them and they seed like crazy. I have a passionflower vine that is creeping throughout the trees in the backyard and so have one of my favorite butterflies - s - along with Zebra Longwings. The good thing is that these are native plants so I don't have to baby them along in this drought like I am my Vietnamese gardenia in a pot, my tiny baby ambrette hibiscus and other hopeful tincturing plants (there's my perfumery bit!). Elise http://www.tambela.com --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 " That's an understatement...... Bees are the primary pollinators for the flowering plants......... Their demise would leave a huge gap in the Ecosystem I think, and I'm not sure what would/could move in to fill that gap.... " Hi and All, There are lots indigenous insects, like bumble bees, yellow jackets and other different wasps and beatles that visit our flowering plants in New Jersey. I've observed, wasp eggs on the backs of large green, tomato catipillars. Our nice bird population helps to keep the insect numbers in check. This year I plan to tincture wild honeysuckle, lilac and maybe butterfly bush. And hope I won't get stung while gathering the plants. I get stung rarely, when barefoot, or lean against a rail an insect is resting on, too. Very nice that you take time to interact with the natural world. It's a rewarding thing to do. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Bourbonais Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 11:01 PM Subject: Re: Speakin' of bees... Hi Folks... Saw something on the Healthe List about cell phones and the radiations thereof maybe causing problems for the bees....? <snipped> I saw this too, , the original article came out of Germany. Worth searching for more info . . . Be Well, Marcia Elston http://www.wingedseed.com http://www.aromaconnection.org " Give thanks for a little and you will find a lot. " Hausa Saying from Nigeria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 --- Marcia Elston <samara@...> wrote: > > > Hi Folks... > > Saw something on the Healthe List about cell phones > and the > radiations > thereof maybe causing problems for the bees....? > <snipped> > > I saw this too, , the original article came out > of Germany. Worth > searching for more info . . . > I had dinner with my mother-in-law this evening and asked her about the bees. She keeps several hives and has been going to bee conferences regularly. (She is also German and has read the German studies). The cell phone theory is interesting because of the fact that bees are disappearing from the hives without a trace. Two years ago she lost all of her hives and they were just simply empty-- no dead bees. So the theory is that cell phones may be interfering with the bees' ability to locate their own hives. Also, she said that some studies have been done on dead bees which showed that bees are carrying several viruses at a time. There is a possibility that they have some type of condition that wipes out the immune system (similar to AIDS). Anyway, I thought this was interesting and indirectly related to perfumery because of the fact that our beloved perfumery plants are dependent on bees (not to mention our food). Scary stuff. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Bees, now that is something I know a little about, being a farmer who relys on bees to pollinate our trees. We keep bee hives here in Southern California and our hives seem to be vigorous and healthy, but our Beekeeper says that bees are declining because of....ROUNDUP. Monsanto says that it is harmless to bees, but he thinks not. Also, secondary 'side effect' is that farmers and others are spraying and killing huge expanses of " weeds " which are forage for the bees, therefore starving them. We cannot talk of " losing " the bees. Bees = food no food = no people Sandy Messori Rivendell Aromatics Ojai, California USA _www.rivendellaromatics.com_ (http://www.rivendellaromatics.com/) 805 649-2476 Southern California Women's Herbal Symposium, Ojai, CA April 27, 28, & 29 2007 at a sacred private site on the river in Matilija canyon. Come and increase your understanding and awareness of the gifts from the earth and the plant world. " A very special weekend. " _www.aquestforhealing.com_ (http://www.aquestforhealing.com/) click SCWHS 2007 Don't miss the Ojai Lavender Festival, June 16, 2007 Libbey Park 10M - 6PM Celebrate everything Lavender! _www.lavenderfestival.net_ (http://www.lavenderfestival.net/) Vendors, contact McRae susan@... 805 798-1231 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Ciai Marcia, could you send me a sample or 2 if I ask you? Salaam " Marcia Elston " <samara@...> ha scritto > > > From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Bourbonais > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 11:01 PM > > Subject: Re: Speakin' of bees... > > > > Hi Folks... > > Saw something on the Healthe List about cell phones and the > radiations > thereof maybe causing problems for the bees....? > <snipped> > > I saw this too, , the original article came out of Germany. Worth > searching for more info . . . > > Be Well, > Marcia Elston http://www.wingedseed.com > http://www.aromaconnection.org > " Give thanks for a little and you will find a lot. " Hausa Saying from > Nigeria > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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