Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 Pam, do exercise if you can cuz it does relieve depression and stress but do not let skipping a work-out add to your burden I only wish TB can give you the confidence it has given me cuz when you go for a job interview, that confidence can either get you the job or give you the strength to keep searching Barb who was not given the raise I demanded so quit after almost 22 years to have my boss suddenly offer me a 50% raise but it was just too late cuz I was too burnt out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 Thanks Barb !! I will exercise tonight, hope to feel better Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 In a message dated 2/1/2000 4:42:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, etcarroll@... writes: << > Pam, don't ever feel bad about venting. That's what we are here for. Hang in there. Things are bound to get better and please, keep taebing for your health and spirit. Elena >> Thanks Elena !! I'm planning on working out tonight, so I hope it makes me feel better Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 In a message dated 02/01/2000 12:20:47 PM Central Standard Time, Pamela1897@... writes: << I will feel like working out when I get home tonight, I feel like I really need it. Thanks everyone !! Pam >> {{{{{{{{{Pam****}}}}}}}}}} Go for that workout! Susi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 In a message dated 02/01/2000 10:20:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, Pamela1897@... writes: << I also feel like I " m gaining weight again, I don't know if that's really true or if I just feel that way because I am so stressed out. >> Pam, I will be praying for you...I couldn't imagine going through what you are going through. Do you have other tapes other than the AL1. I only got the basic original because right now we can't afford it either, it kind of sucks not being able to get other tapes. But I will someday:)LOL I hope things go better for you and just remember to go push play, you will feel better Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 In a message dated 2/1/00 6:09:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, Aimattae@... writes: << Pam, I will be praying for you...I couldn't imagine going through what you are going through. Do you have other tapes other than the AL1. I only got the basic original because right now we can't afford it either, it kind of sucks not being able to get other tapes. But I will someday:)LOL I hope things go better for you and just remember to go push play, you will feel better Amy ----- >> Hi Amy !! Thanks for the kind words !! I do have the original 8 minute tape and the Studio Advanced as well as AL1. That's all I have for now. Hopefully some day soon I can get more of the live tapes. I'm feeling better now, I did do the 8 minute tape, that's all I could do tonight, hopefully tomorrow morning I'll do either Studio Advanced or AL1 and get myself back on track. Thanks again !! Pam Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 In a message dated 2/1/00 5:34:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, srferron@... writes: << Pam, This is your cybermother speaking: PUSH PLAY!!!!!! :-) >> Thank you cybermother !! I did push play (even though it was only the 8 minute tape, but that is better than nothing I guess !!) Tomorrow morning I'll do either Studio Advanced or AL1, and I'm sure I'll feel much better !! Pam Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 Pamela1897@... wrote: > > Hi everyone. I hope no one minds, I'm having a lousy time of it these > days and just need to unload and you all are so great and supporative I > decided to write here. I am so depressed right now and of course I am having > trouble working out because of it and it's making me even more depressed. I'm > right now in the process of looking for a new job. I've been with my company > for 9 years but I have never gotten the proper raises I should have been > getting. I just asked for another one but they denied me not because I don't > deserve it, but because it is not in the budget. I mean I don't even make > enough to cover my bills let alone any extra. I even had to cancel my > automatic shipment of the live series because I can't afford it !! That > bummed me out so much. I only have AL1 so far, but I'll enjoy that and > hopefully I'll find a new job and I'll sign back up for the automatic > delivery again. I also feel like I " m gaining weight again, I don't know if > that's really true or if I just feel that way because I am so stressed out. I > have got to work out tonight and keep doing it every day, I know it will make > me feel better. Well I better go for now, thanks for listening, it really > helped writing this all down, I feel a little better. Cross your fingers that > I will feel like working out when I get home tonight, I feel like I really > need it. Thanks everyone !! > > Pam, don't ever feel bad about venting. That's what we are here for. Hang in there. Things are bound to get better and please, keep taebing for your health and spirit. Elena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 In a message dated 02/01/2000 9:46:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, Pamela1897@... writes: << I'm feeling better now, I did do the 8 minute tape, that's all I could do tonight, hopefully tomorrow morning I'll do either Studio Advanced or AL1 and get myself back on track. >> Pam, split the Advanced work-outs up into 2 separate work-outs for more variety or do the 8 minute then the floorwork Modify your work-out depending on what you feel like doing Barb who used to do half an Advanced in the morning than the rest in the afternoon AKA: POMBarb, Mad-Dame Yenta, Tae-Bo Barb " It's hard to be a cheerleader when the kid won't be a player " <A HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/horsemom2/myhomepage/index.html " >Barb's Places on the web</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 Pam, This is your cybermother speaking: PUSH PLAY!!!!!! :-) pamela189-@... wrote: original article:tae-bo_on/?start=10043 > Hi everyone. I hope no one minds, I'm having a lousy time of it these > days and just need to unload and you all are so great and supporative I > decided to write here. I am so depressed right now and of course I am having > trouble working out because of it and it's making me even more depressed. I'm > right now in the process of looking for a new job. I've been with my company > for 9 years but I have never gotten the proper raises I should have been > getting. I just asked for another one but they denied me not because I don't > deserve it, but because it is not in the budget. I mean I don't even make > enough to cover my bills let alone any extra. I even had to cancel my > automatic shipment of the live series because I can't afford it !! That > bummed me out so much. I only have AL1 so far, but I'll enjoy that and > hopefully I'll find a new job and I'll sign back up for the automatic > delivery again. I also feel like I " m gaining weight again, I don't know if > that's really true or if I just feel that way because I am so stressed out. I > have got to work out tonight and keep doing it every day, I know it will make > me feel better. Well I better go for now, thanks for listening, it really > helped writing this all down, I feel a little better. Cross your fingers that > I will feel like working out when I get home tonight, I feel like I really > need it. Thanks everyone !! > > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 In a message dated 02/01/2000 6:46:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, Pamela1897@... writes: << Hi Amy !! Thanks for the kind words !! I do have the original 8 minute tape and the Studio Advanced as well as AL1. That's all I have for now. Hopefully some day soon I can get more of the live tapes. I'm feeling better now, I did do the 8 minute tape, that's all I could do tonight, hopefully tomorrow morning I'll do either Studio Advanced or AL1 and get myself back on track. Thanks again !! Pam >> Good Pam!!! I was rooting(?) for you and I am so glad that you came through!!!! YAY YAY YAY Pam. WAY TO GO PAM!!! Amy who is so excited that Pam pushed herself and made a bad day turn good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 In a message dated 2/1/00 6:09:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, SuSiFLooZi@... writes: << < I will feel like working out when I get home tonight, I feel like I really need it. Thanks everyone !! >> A hug for you {{{{{{{PAM}}}}}}} Feel better! Work out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 Pam-I'm glad that you expressed your fears. It really does help to just tell someone, instead of holding it in. Good things are bound to happen. Keep the Faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 Way to go, cyberchild! ;-) F pamela189-@... wrote: original article:tae-bo_on/?start=10115 > In a message dated 2/1/00 5:34:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, srferron@... > writes: > > << Pam, > > This is your cybermother speaking: PUSH PLAY!!!!!! > > :-) > >> > Thank you cybermother !! I did push play (even though it was only the 8 > minute tape, but that is better than nothing I guess !!) Tomorrow morning > I'll do either Studio Advanced or AL1, and I'm sure I'll feel much better !! > > Pam > > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2000 Report Share Posted February 2, 2000 In a message dated 2/1/00 1:20:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, Pamela1897@... writes: << I have got to work out tonight and keep doing it every day, I know it will make me feel better. Well I better go for now, thanks for listening, it really helped writing this all down, I feel a little better. Cross your fingers that I will feel like working out when I get home tonight, I feel like I really need it. Thanks everyone !! Pam >> Pam, I am sorry to hear you are so down. I know how you feel because I too have been depressed lately. Although, it has to do with my stepdaughter and not work. I know it is hard to workout, but it does make you feel better. I have woken up every morning not feeling like working out, but have pushed myself, and was happy I did. It takes your thoughts away for a bit, so please try it. I have actually dropped weight since I went into my depression. I think it has to do with my drinking the water, my continuing to workout, and the stress. So, do not let this depression take over your life. FIGHT IT! I hope you know we are always here for you. Cheer up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2000 Report Share Posted February 2, 2000 In a message dated 2/2/2000 9:02:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, cat77@... writes: << Pam >> Pam, I am sorry to hear you are so down. I know how you feel because I too have been depressed lately. Although, it has to do with my stepdaughter and not work. I know it is hard to workout, but it does make you feel better. I have woken up every morning not feeling like working out, but have pushed myself, and was happy I did. It takes your thoughts away for a bit, so please try it. I have actually dropped weight since I went into my depression. I think it has to do with my drinking the water, my continuing to workout, and the stress. So, do not let this depression take over your life. FIGHT IT! I hope you know we are always here for you. Cheer up! >> Thank you so much !! It helps to know that you all care so much. I hope your situation turns out okay also. I did work out and felt a little better now, hopefully today will be a much better day, I have my kickboxing class tonight which I am happy about because they had cancelled the last two classes due to snow, and I have missed it so much. Thanks again !!! Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2000 Report Share Posted February 2, 2000 In a message dated 2/2/2000 9:02:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, cat77@... writes: << Pam >> Pam, I am sorry to hear you are so down. I know how you feel because I too have been depressed lately. Although, it has to do with my stepdaughter and not work. I know it is hard to workout, but it does make you feel better. I have woken up every morning not feeling like working out, but have pushed myself, and was happy I did. It takes your thoughts away for a bit, so please try it. I have actually dropped weight since I went into my depression. I think it has to do with my drinking the water, my continuing to workout, and the stress. So, do not let this depression take over your life. FIGHT IT! I hope you know we are always here for you. Cheer up! >> Thank you so much !! It helps to know that you all care so much. I hope your situation turns out okay also. I did work out and felt a little better now, hopefully today will be a much better day, I have my kickboxing class tonight which I am happy about because they had cancelled the last two classes due to snow, and I have missed it so much. Thanks again !!! Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2000 Report Share Posted February 2, 2000 In a message dated 02/02/2000 9:02:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, cat77@... writes: << So, do not let this depression take over your life. FIGHT IT! >> Tae-Bo or any exercise that lets off steam defininitely does help sadly depression can steal your energy preventing what could help the most The other thing that helps is reaching-out When you withdraw, it is much harder to climb out of that hole and you sink deeper and deeper Barb who has fallen into that hole alittle too deep and has promised myself never to let it happen again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2000 Report Share Posted February 2, 2000 In a message dated 02/02/2000 6:02:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, cat77@... writes: << So, do not let this depression take over your life. >> , I hope that things are getting better for you....I have been thinking about you alot lately (since we chatted). I am always here for you so if you ever want to talk just let me know..Of course that goes to all of you girls...anytime...I am here. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2000 Report Share Posted February 2, 2000 In a message dated 2/2/00 10:52:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, Aimattae@... writes: << , I hope that things are getting better for you....I have been thinking about you alot lately (since we chatted). I am always here for you so if you ever want to talk just let me know..Of course that goes to all of you girls...anytime...I am here. Amy >> Thanks Amy, that really means alot. You are a sweetie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 i am so sorry to hear that you are having these feelings. you sound like an incredibly strong person. it is okay to have bad days. we are all hear to lend an ear. evelynLee <leeben12@...> wrote: Hi All, My name is Lee, am 54yrs old, widowed with one grown son. I live withmy mother who is nearly blind from complications of diabetes. I wassupposed to help her but it turns out she is helping me. We make quitea pair - she cant see and I cant talk...Since 2002 i have been hit by a bunch of illnesses that have changedmy life forever. I have carcinoid cancer of the lung - 2/3 lungremoved, a pituitary tumor that affects my adrenal glands - nocortisol, and scleroderma that has damaged my kidneys and lungs, mydigestive system and my joints/muscles. I also have thyroid cancer.Had an op that caused paralysis of the vocal cords. Could talk in awhisper and breath a little but it became worse and I had to undergoan emergency tracheostomy 6 weeks ago - tube in the neck forbreathing. It is irritating, painful and i have become so depressed. I think that I managed quite well before but now i am not functioningat all. I am very fatigued and seem to isolate myself a lot. I feelthat I am a burden on my family and have found that friends that irelied on have suddenly deserted. I cry all the time and am angry atmyself.So glad to have a groupl like this that understands. Thanks for beingthere.Lee~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~The Being Sick CommunityMessage Archives-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Chats at /chatBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into groups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe This group is not intended to diagnose or treat illnesses. No one on this group is qualified to diagnose medical conditions. If you feel you need medical attention, seek the advice of a qualified physician.~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~When nothing is sure, everything is possible.--- Margaret Drabble~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Dear Lee, I am so so very sorry to hear about all of your unfortunate happenings. I can not begin to imagine the stress and depression you must have to go through daily. I wish there was something I could do, if anything you have a very good listener here on your hands and you are more then welcome to vent away.....Im a 35 year old single mom of two wonderful children and my main illness is Crohn's Disease....too long of a list to name all the other glories that come with it.....I know you are probably sick of hearing people say to try not to get down that things will get better....so I wont....heheh...what I will say is this...I believe God is watching over you and that he never gives us more then we can truly handle.....having said that I do wish you the very best possible and pray for your health to better and your state of mind to hold on strongly....please take good care and remember someone cares hun.....take care....Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 --- itsliz31@... wrote: > > > I am so so very sorry to hear about all > of your unfortunate happenings. Hi Liz, Thank you for your kind words - it really helps. I am glad that i joined this group as I see others are really worse off than me and are managing - so maybe we could all do this together with mutual help. Hugs, Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Lee, I am 43, single with 2 grown children and had to live with my mother for 6 months last year. It did feel strange to have lost my independence and have someone else cooking, cleaning, etc. But, I feel so fortunate that my Mom was there for me and still is. I spend winters with her due to my arthritis and the depression I get from being stuck indoors in Maine winters. It has been quite a shock to go from an independent, hardworking, single mom to near death and being left with illnesses that have made me rearrange my life. That was a lot of hard work, but I have accepted (I think) my limitations. I guess I have dealt with my losses by being thankful for what I have rather than dwelling on what I have lost. I thank my Mom for taking care of me and everyone else who helps me... even if it is some tiny little thing. Loss, other than health, I have lost some major things in my life but have had to accept that those 'things' or what I was once able to do, do not define who I am. My illnesses do not define who I am. I cannot be anywhere near a chlorine pool or any other strong chemicals, I can't hike anymore, I can't climb mountains anymore, I can't swim, lift weights, exert myself in any way, leaving the house is an anxiety attack, I have to walk, rest, walk, rest due to bad disc, I can't captain a sailboat anymore. I lost my beloved 27' Catalina - Tigger. I used to sail in Casco Bay.... by myself. That was a great accomplishment for me given my history of anxiety and all the work I had to do physically and mentally to be able to achieve this. I used to race Tigger and had a crew that I would pick up in Portland Harbor and we would go to the trendy places to celebrate losing the race... lol. I achieved my dream of racing in the MS Regatta for 2003 and 2004. These are all wonderful memories and I keep pictures around to remind me of this accomplishment. Only 1 crew member remains a friend. I'm sure there are many other losses, but Tigger was really a huge loss for me. On the bright side, I sold Tigger to another USCG Auxiliarist who is bringing a small sailboat up to the lake this summer and I am going to try to sail her! And my mentor, who taught me to sail and race, has already invited me to sail with him next summer... not race, just sail. I understand about people disappearing. The only people left in my life are sister, brother, mom and dad, 2 female friends, 2 male friends, 2 former colleagues and my legal medical agent. Everyone else did disappear. I did some research on this and found this to be called the 'social death'. That's when people who can't deal with illness or for some other reason just disappear on us. I have not dwelled on those losses because with the stress I already have with being ill, I don't need to feel their stresses. I stay in touch with these people that I know will support me emotionally and it really helps. In fact, I just found a new counselor because I was not feeling supported by my previous counselor. Ironically, the old counselor sent me a letter telling me she was dropping me from 'the program' because she had not heard from me. This may not seem abnormal to most people, but read between the lines and this is what I got out of her letter: she never asked how I was doing, she never inquired as to whether I was hospitalized or not, she showed no empathy or even understanding that I have anxiety whenever I leave the house... she validated my feeling that I needed a new counselor. I do believe that things happen for a reason and perhaps you are better off without those people in your life. Have you tried talking to a counselor? I too have days where I get very sad and angry. These are the days when I'll have a migraine for 3 days straight and have pain down my legs because of my disc and haven't eaten a good meal for a while. I cherish any day that comes along that I don't have a headache and can take a pain killer so I can walk and make myself something to eat! The fatigue. Yes, I have found that I am really tired ever since I got sick. My mother says it's because my body is fighting off pain and autoimmune stuff and just trying to cook a meal will tire me out. I have had to learn to pace myself and prioritize. Sometimes it means that the only outdoor activity I get is sitting outside... but that's ok, at least I can still hear the water, the ducks, the birds, squirrels, neighbor's kids, etc. I love nature and am fortunate to live on a lake. I hope you can find something you can do that gives you those peaceful moments when you have those moments of relief from the pain. Keep writing to us and hope your pain subsides. Donna Lee <leeben12@...> wrote: Hi All, My name is Lee, am 54yrs old, widowed with one grown son. I live withmy mother who is nearly blind from complications of diabetes. I wassupposed to help her but it turns out she is helping me. We make quitea pair - she cant see and I cant talk...Since 2002 i have been hit by a bunch of illnesses that have changedmy life forever. I have carcinoid cancer of the lung - 2/3 lungremoved, a pituitary tumor that affects my adrenal glands - nocortisol, and scleroderma that has damaged my kidneys and lungs, mydigestive system and my joints/muscles. I also have thyroid cancer.Had an op that caused paralysis of the vocal cords. Could talk in awhisper and breath a little but it became worse and I had to undergoan emergency tracheostomy 6 weeks ago - tube in the neck forbreathing. It is irritating, painful and i have become so depressed. I think that I managed quite well before but now i am not functioningat all. I am very fatigued and seem to isolate myself a lot. I feelthat I am a burden on my family and have found that friends that irelied on have suddenly deserted. I cry all the time and am angry atmyself.So glad to have a groupl like this that understands. Thanks for beingthere.Lee~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~The Being Sick CommunityMessage Archives-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Chats at /chatBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into groups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe This group is not intended to diagnose or treat illnesses. No one on this group is qualified to diagnose medical conditions. If you feel you need medical attention, seek the advice of a qualified physician.~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~When nothing is sure, everything is possible.--- Margaret Drabble~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Hi Donna, Thank you for sharing so much of your life and losses with me. I really feel honored. For so long I have tried to stay away from groups of " sick " people but have become so enriched since joining the groups. I have learned so much from others - that you can survive one day at time, that enjoying even the small things makes it worthwhile, that people still care and that my life not as bad as I thought - there are others who are suffering more and may need my support. I am saddened to hear about your losses but you sound as if you have moved on. I so understand your disappointment with your counselor - its a disgrace that they even get a licence. There should be some kind of test to evaluate hteir ability to empathize with people in stressful situations. I was seeing a psychologist when I was diagnosed with lung cancer and continued for a long time. When I lost my voice 9could barely whisper), I wrote him a letter and said i was devastated by this loss and could we try to figure something out - like email correspondence. well, I received this cold letter stating that he could not justify such an action with the insurance company etc etc. He never asked how i was doing etc. As you said good riddance but now i am a bit wary of trying with someone new - its hard for me to breath and talk and i really dont trust them at all. I do have moments of peace and places of peace. Your place on the lake sound like heaven. I am really hoping that I may even find a place out of Arizona to spend the summer - the heat in summer is unbearable and i need humidity. i like to plan even if the plans dont work out Have a pain free and peaceful day, Thank you and soft hugs, Lee - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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