Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Hi. How are you doing? What tests did your dermatologist run for your telogen effluvium? Did you have your serum ferritin checked? See www.florisene.com the manufacturer of florisene, Dr. Hugh Rushton states we need a ferritin of at least 70 for proper hair growth. I was dubious about this claim at first because he's selling a product. However, his same studies were replicated at the Univ. Oregon (Dr. Janet ) and Univ. of Washington (Dr. Haycox) and they too found a correlation between low serum ferritin and female telogen effluvium (all over the scalp diffuse hair loss). Hugs, LMAprilcupcake@... wrote: Hi Terry...I really feel for you. I have been experiencing the same thing for the last two and a half years. It all came on very suddenly, and has been dramatic and traumatic. I was diagnosed a little over a year ago with a thyroid problem..and have been on medication since. I have only recently begun to experience a "slow down" in the shedding. There are many theories circulating about the real cause of hair loss. My dermatologist has told me that I will NOT go bald, and I just need to stop worrying so much. She assures me that it is adrenal in origin. And I will not see improvement until I quit stressing about it, because our bodies do not know the difference between physical and emotional stress, the way we react to it has just as much impact as any physiological cause. In an effort to combat the stress the body goes into energy conservation mode..only feeding the body functions that are necessary for survival. Our bodies know that we can live without hair, and the energy and nutrients that go to feed the folicle are simply cut off until the crisis passes. The body can also "use" the readily accessible source of protein stored in the folicle when it needs to. Our bodies are designed to actually feed off themselves in times of need. hair loss can also be a direct result of low blood pressure, and chronic infection. I asked her about the connection between my implants and my hair loss..and she did not believe they were connected. The implants could elicit an immune reaction, but that most likely I would be very sick as a result. getting colds frequently etc...and I don't. The last time I had a cold was about seven years ago. Autoimmune reaction to my hair folicles would be different all together, and would also affect the hair on the rest of my body to much the same extent. And the rest of me has not been affected, other than the loss of some of my eyebrows, which is consistent with Hypothyroidism. Could there be something else you might have overlooked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Marie, I see a possible connection here. If you are estrogen dominant and have heavy periods than that would make your ferritin low possibly. And in turn that might be causing the hair loss. If that is the case than the progesterone cream might be your answer. Does that make sense? Anita Re: Re: Continious hair loss--April Hi. How are you doing? What tests did your dermatologist run for your telogen effluvium? Did you have your serum ferritin checked? See www.florisene.com the manufacturer of florisene, Dr. Hugh Rushton states we need a ferritin of at least 70 for proper hair growth. I was dubious about this claim at first because he's selling a product. However, his same studies were replicated at the Univ. Oregon (Dr. Janet ) and Univ. of Washington (Dr. Haycox) and they too found a correlation between low serum ferritin and female telogen effluvium (all over the scalp diffuse hair loss). Hugs, LMAprilcupcake@... wrote: Hi Terry...I really feel for you. I have been experiencing the same thing for the last two and a half years. It all came on very suddenly, and has been dramatic and traumatic. I was diagnosed a little over a year ago with a thyroid problem..and have been on medication since. I have only recently begun to experience a "slow down" in the shedding. There are many theories circulating about the real cause of hair loss. My dermatologist has told me that I will NOT go bald, and I just need to stop worrying so much. She assures me that it is adrenal in origin. And I will not see improvement until I quit stressing about it, because our bodies do not know the difference between physical and emotional stress, the way we react to it has just as much impact as any physiological cause. In an effort to combat the stress the body goes into energy conservation mode..only feeding the body functions that are necessary for survival. Our bodies know that we can live without hair, and the energy and nutrients that go to feed the folicle are simply cut off until the crisis passes. The body can also "use" the readily accessible source of protein stored in the folicle when it needs to. Our bodies are designed to actually feed off themselves in times of need. hair loss can also be a direct result of low blood pressure, and chronic infection. I asked her about the connection between my implants and my hair loss..and she did not believe they were connected. The implants could elicit an immune reaction, but that most likely I would be very sick as a result. getting colds frequently etc...and I don't. The last time I had a cold was about seven years ago. Autoimmune reaction to my hair folicles would be different all together, and would also affect the hair on the rest of my body to much the same extent. And the rest of me has not been affected, other than the loss of some of my eyebrows, which is consistent with Hypothyroidism. Could there be something else you might have overlooked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Hi Anita: Do you mean that estrogen dominance gives me heavy periods thereby contributing to iron loss? Yes, that would be true. I'm on iron therapy--have been for three years now. Unfortunately, I was anemic when I was implanted/explanted and had dental surgery so by the time I found out I was anemic was three years later. I lost the bigger chunk of my hair during t5his period. Brodsky told me that undergoing surgery whilst anemic, you can cause permanent hair loss if low iron it goes untreated. I may never get my density back, only some. If it were not for the implant surgery, I'd have much thicker hair. My ferritin was 5 in 2000, now it's 81.I did get some regrowth until I went to that alternative asshole endo and I got on HGH then I shed most of the regrowth and now I have less density again. Hugs, LM anita kessler <AnitaK001@...> wrote: Marie, I see a possible connection here. If you are estrogen dominant and have heavy periods than that would make your ferritin low possibly. And in turn that might be causing the hair loss. If that is the case than the progesterone cream might be your answer. Does that make sense? Anita Re: Re: Continious hair loss--April Hi. How are you doing? What tests did your dermatologist run for your telogen effluvium? Did you have your serum ferritin checked? See www.florisene.com the manufacturer of florisene, Dr. Hugh Rushton states we need a ferritin of at least 70 for proper hair growth. I was dubious about this claim at first because he's selling a product. However, his same studies were replicated at the Univ. Oregon (Dr. Janet ) and Univ. of Washington (Dr. Haycox) and they too found a correlation between low serum ferritin and female telogen effluvium (all over the scalp diffuse hair loss). Hugs, LMAprilcupcake@... wrote: Hi Terry...I really feel for you. I have been experiencing the same thing for the last two and a half years. It all came on very suddenly, and has been dramatic and traumatic. I was diagnosed a little over a year ago with a thyroid problem..and have been on medication since. I have only recently begun to experience a "slow down" in the shedding. There are many theories circulating about the real cause of hair loss. My dermatologist has told me that I will NOT go bald, and I just need to stop worrying so much. She assures me that it is adrenal in origin. And I will not see improvement until I quit stressing about it, because our bodies do not know the difference between physical and emotional stress, the way we react to it has just as much impact as any physiological cause. In an effort to combat the stress the body goes into energy conservation mode..only feeding the body functions that are necessary for survival. Our bodies know that we can live without hair, and the energy and nutrients that go to feed the folicle are simply cut off until the crisis passes. The body can also "use" the readily accessible source of protein stored in the folicle when it needs to. Our bodies are designed to actually feed off themselves in times of need. hair loss can also be a direct result of low blood pressure, and chronic infection. I asked her about the connection between my implants and my hair loss..and she did not believe they were connected. The implants could elicit an immune reaction, but that most likely I would be very sick as a result. getting colds frequently etc...and I don't. The last time I had a cold was about seven years ago. Autoimmune reaction to my hair folicles would be different all together, and would also affect the hair on the rest of my body to much the same extent. And the rest of me has not been affected, other than the loss of some of my eyebrows, which is consistent with Hypothyroidism. Could there be something else you might have overlooked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Marie, Do you still have heavy periods? If you do then the progesterone should take care of it. I have had heavy periods all my life but after the progesterone I had normal light four day periods. Before it was seven days of very heavy flow. I was only on the iron for about a year and was back to normal levels but stopping all the bleeding helped I'm sure. Anita Re: Re: Continious hair loss--April Hi. How are you doing? What tests did your dermatologist run for your telogen effluvium? Did you have your serum ferritin checked? See www.florisene.com the manufacturer of florisene, Dr. Hugh Rushton states we need a ferritin of at least 70 for proper hair growth. I was dubious about this claim at first because he's selling a product However, his same studies were replicated at the Univ. Oregon (Dr. Janet ) and Univ. of Washington (Dr. Haycox) and they too found a correlation between low serum ferritin and female telogen effluvium (all over the scalp diffuse hair loss). Hugs, LMAprilcupcake@... wrote: Hi Terry...I really feel for you. I have been experiencing the same thing for the last two and a half years. It all came on very suddenly, and has been dramatic and traumatic. I was diagnosed a little over a year ago with a thyroid problem..and have been on medication since. I have only recently begun to experience a "slow down" in the shedding. There are many theories circulating about the real cause of hair loss. My dermatologist has told me that I will NOT go bald, and I just need to stop worrying so much. She assures me that it is adrenal in origin. And I will not see improvement until I quit stressing about it, because our bodies do not know the difference between physical and emotional stress, the way we react to it has just as much impact as any physiological cause. In an effort to combat the stress the body goes into energy conservation mode..only feeding the body functions that are necessary for survival. Our bodies know that we can live without hair, and the energy and nutrients that go to feed the folicle are simply cut off until the crisis passes. The body can also "use" the readily accessible source of protein stored in the folicle when it needs to. Our bodies are designed to actually feed off themselves in times of need. hair loss can also be a direct result of low blood pressure, and chronic infection. I asked her about the connection between my implants and my hair loss..and she did not believe they were connected. The implants could elicit an immune reaction, but that most likely I would be very sick as a result. getting colds frequently etc...and I don't. The last time I had a cold was about seven years ago. Autoimmune reaction to my hair folicles would be different all together, and would also affect the hair on the rest of my body to much the same extent. And the rest of me has not been affected, other than the loss of some of my eyebrows, which is consistent with Hypothyroidism. Could there be something else you might have overlooked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Anita: The past 2 months it has not been heavy--it varies but usually it's kind of heavy. I need to wear maxi pads. Did your period lighten up when you went on iron, I don't understand?LManita kessler <AnitaK001@...> wrote: Marie, Do you still have heavy periods? If you do then the progesterone should take care of it. I have had heavy periods all my life but after the progesterone I had normal light four day periods. Before it was seven days of very heavy flow. I was only on the iron for about a year and was back to normal levels but stopping all the bleeding helped I'm sure. Anita Re: Re: Continious hair loss--April Hi. How are you doing? What tests did your dermatologist run for your telogen effluvium? Did you have your serum ferritin checked? See www.florisene.com the manufacturer of florisene, Dr. Hugh Rushton states we need a ferritin of at least 70 for proper hair growth. I was dubious about this claim at first because he's selling a product However, his same studies were replicated at the Univ. Oregon (Dr. Janet ) and Univ. of Washington (Dr. Haycox) and they too found a correlation between low serum ferritin and female telogen effluvium (all over the scalp diffuse hair loss). Hugs, LMAprilcupcake@... wrote: Hi Terry...I really feel for you. I have been experiencing the same thing for the last two and a half years. It all came on very suddenly, and has been dramatic and traumatic. I was diagnosed a little over a year ago with a thyroid problem..and have been on medication since. I have only recently begun to experience a "slow down" in the shedding. There are many theories circulating about the real cause of hair loss. My dermatologist has told me that I will NOT go bald, and I just need to stop worrying so much. She assures me that it is adrenal in origin. And I will not see improvement until I quit stressing about it, because our bodies do not know the difference between physical and emotional stress, the way we react to it has just as much impact as any physiological cause. In an effort to combat the stress the body goes into energy conservation mode..only feeding the body functions that are necessary for survival. Our bodies know that we can live without hair, and the energy and nutrients that go to feed the folicle are simply cut off until the crisis passes. The body can also "use" the readily accessible source of protein stored in the folicle when it needs to. Our bodies are designed to actually feed off themselves in times of need. hair loss can also be a direct result of low blood pressure, and chronic infection. I asked her about the connection between my implants and my hair loss..and she did not believe they were connected. The implants could elicit an immune reaction, but that most likely I would be very sick as a result. getting colds frequently etc...and I don't. The last time I had a cold was about seven years ago. Autoimmune reaction to my hair folicles would be different all together, and would also affect the hair on the rest of my body to much the same extent. And the rest of me has not been affected, other than the loss of some of my eyebrows, which is consistent with Hypothyroidism. Could there be something else you might have overlooked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 No, when I used the progesterone. As I understand it estrogen and progesterone are what you might call antagonists. Anita Re: Re: Continious hair loss--April Hi. How are you doing? What tests did your dermatologist run for your telogen effluvium? Did you have your serum ferritin checked? See www.florisene.com the manufacturer of florisene, Dr. Hugh Rushton states we need a ferritin of at least 70 for proper hair growth. I was dubious about this claim at first because he's selling a product However, his same studies were replicated at the Univ. Oregon (Dr. Janet ) and Univ. of Washington (Dr. Haycox) and they too found a correlation between low serum ferritin and female telogen effluvium (all over the scalp diffuse hair loss). Hugs, LMAprilcupcake@... wrote: Hi Terry...I really feel for you. I have been experiencing the same thing for the last two and a half years. It all came on very suddenly, and has been dramatic and traumatic. I was diagnosed a little over a year ago with a thyroid problem..and have been on medication since. I have only recently begun to experience a "slow down" in the shedding. There are many theories circulating about the real cause of hair loss. My dermatologist has told me that I will NOT go bald, and I just need to stop worrying so much. She assures me that it is adrenal in origin. And I will not see improvement until I quit stressing about it, because our bodies do not know the difference between physical and emotional stress, the way we react to it has just as much impact as any physiological cause. In an effort to combat the stress the body goes into energy conservation mode..only feeding the body functions that are necessary for survival. Our bodies know that we can live without hair, and the energy and nutrients that go to feed the folicle are simply cut off until the crisis passes. The body can also "use" the readily accessible source of protein stored in the folicle when it needs to. Our bodies are designed to actually feed off themselves in times of need. hair loss can also be a direct result of low blood pressure, and chronic infection. I asked her about the connection between my implants and my hair loss..and she did not believe they were connected. The implants could elicit an immune reaction, but that most likely I would be very sick as a result getting colds frequently etc...and I don't. The last time I had a cold was about seven years ago. Autoimmune reaction to my hair folicles would be different all together, and would also affect the hair on the rest of my body to much the same extent. And the rest of me has not been affected, other than the loss of some of my eyebrows, which is consistent with Hypothyroidism. Could there be something else you might have overlooked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 April: Autoimmune hair loss does NOT have to necessarily involve hair lost on the body as well as the scalp--many times only the scalp is targeted. Everyone is different. Also, telogen effluvium is not only scalp loss, SOME individuals loose body hair too--body hair loss is not strictly and autoimmune occurrence. LM naturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote: In my case it was medication that caused my shedding. at one point I lost almost half my hair, lucky I was blessed with a thick head of hair. In my case, since I take excellent care of myself and eat a really protein and vitamin rich diet I know the cause for me was my thryoid meds. Not all of us do well on them and some times they can cause hair loss. Other medications that seem safe can do this too, and everyone is individual so that is also something to look into. That and malabsoprtion can be causes that would go undetected.hugsIn , Aprilcupcake@a... wrote:> Hi Terry...I really feel for you. I have been experiencing the > same thing for the last two and a half years.> It all came on very suddenly, and has been dramatic> and traumatic.> I was diagnosed a little over a year ago with a thyroid> problem..and have been on medication since.> I have only recently begun to experience a "slow down"> in the shedding.> There are many theories circulating about the real cause> of hair loss.> My dermatologist has told me that I will NOT go bald, > and I just need to stop worrying so much.> She assures me that it is adrenal in origin. > And I will not see improvement until I quit stressing> about it, because our bodies do not know the difference> between physical and emotional stress, the way we > react to it has just as much impact as any physiological> cause.> In an effort to combat the stress the body goes into > energy conservation mode..only feeding the body > functions that are necessary for survival. Our bodies> know that we can live without hair, and the energy and> nutrients that go to feed the folicle are simply cut off> until the crisis passes.> The body can also "use" the readily accessible source> of protein stored in the folicle when it needs to.> Our bodies are designed to actually feed off themselves> in times of need.> > hair loss can also be a direct result of > low blood pressure, and chronic infection.> I asked her about the connection between my implants > and my hair loss..and she did not believe they were> connected.> The implants could elicit an immune reaction, but > that most likely I would be very sick as a result.> getting colds frequently etc...and I don't.> The last time I had a cold was about seven years> ago. > Autoimmune reaction to my hair folicles would be > different all together, and would also affect the hair> on the rest of my body to much the same extent.> And the rest of me has not been affected, other > than the loss of some of my eyebrows, which is > consistent with Hypothyroidism.> Could there be something else you might have > overlooked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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