Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 I have used a natural progesterone cream for years, which helped TREMENDOUSLY in the perimenopause stage. I recently had to augment with a natural estriol cream, due to entering actual menopause phase. UGH! Although I consider myself well-read on health stuff, I have had a real time with this.....passage in my life. STRONGLY recommend you read Dr Lee's " What Your Dr Never Told You About Premenopause " if you are in the 30-40 range, and read Dr Lee's " What Your Dr Never Told You About Menopause " when you are in the 40-50 range or early menopause. Dr Lee was the guru on natural progesterone cream. The kind/brand of progesterone cream you use makes a BIG difference in your results. You need one that is strong enough to only use a very small quantity. I used one from AIM for most of the time. Big results, little cost/day. If you choose to go the natural route, I HIGHLY recommend you get periodic saliva testing to know where you are on the hormone roller coaster before and during natural hormone replacement. Dr Zava with ZRT Labs does a wonderful job and collaborated with Dr Lee, previously, on books/research results. Dr Zava will give you a good summary, with specifics, on your hormone levels. As your body's own hormones fluctuate, your needs for supplementation, CHANGE. The saliva tests let you know where to add, where to subtract. It, along with your symptoms (or lack of), is your " report card " for success in the voyage. I've fought my doctors for years on NOT taking the pregnant mare urine hormones. It's not been easy, but I've lived through it, with less dangerous side effects.....SAVE THOSE UP FOR THESE BLASTED IMPLANTS, HUH?! You can peruse Dr Lee's website for lots of info. Virginia Lee, a co-writer of his, was very helpful to me, in the past, via email. If you go for the natural hormones, make sure they are from a quality manufacturer/supplier. The natural estriol was a God-send to me in recent months. The night sweats/hot flashes, along with vaginal dryness/atrophy, and urinary urgency were ALL driving me wild! The estriol made an immediate difference. Estriol is the weakest form of the 3 natural estrogens we normally have, so it's a good one to start with when your own estrogen drops too low. It is the least dangerous to supplement with, also. If used vaginally, it has much reduced risks. The conventional HRT gets into your bloodstream more (via the digestive tract) and is much more dangerous. I have not tried a compounding pharmacist, but have interest in that.... Might have reduced some of my trial and error over the last several years. Bellevue Pharmacy sounds like a good one to look at (?) if interested. He seems pro-active on working with women (and men) struggling with hormone imbalances. Insurance will usually cover costs, I'm told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Ann, Where do you get your estriol cream? I've ordered and used one from off the net, called Doctor's. It has both estriol and progesterone in it. Just wondered what brand you were using, or if it is Rx. Pattyann53ie <ann53ie@...> wrote: I have used a natural progesterone cream for years, which helped TREMENDOUSLY in the perimenopause stage. I recently had to augment with a natural estriol cream, due to entering actual menopause phase. UGH! Although I consider myself well-read on health stuff, I have had a real time with this.....passage in my life. STRONGLY recommend you read Dr Lee's "What Your Dr Never Told You About Premenopause" if you are in the 30-40 range, and read Dr Lee's "What Your Dr Never Told You About Menopause" when you are in the 40-50 range or early menopause. Dr Lee was the guru on natural progesterone cream. The kind/brand of progesterone cream you use makes a BIG difference in your results. You need one that is strong enough to only use a very small quantity. I used one from AIM for most of the time. Big results, little cost/day. If you choose to go the natural route, I HIGHLY recommend you get periodic saliva testing to know where you are on the hormone roller coaster before and during natural hormone replacement. Dr Zava with ZRT Labs does a wonderful job and collaborated with Dr Lee, previously, on books/research results. Dr Zava will give you a good summary, with specifics, on your hormone levels. As your body's own hormones fluctuate, your needs for supplementation, CHANGE. The saliva tests let you know where to add, where to subtract. It, along with your symptoms (or lack of), is your "report card" for success in the voyage. I've fought my doctors for years on NOT taking the pregnant mare urine hormones. It's not been easy, but I've lived through it, with less dangerous side effects.....SAVE THOSE UP FOR THESE BLASTED IMPLANTS, HUH?! You can peruse Dr Lee's website for lots of info. Virginia Lee, a co-writer of his, was very helpful to me, in the past, via email. If you go for the natural hormones, make sure they are from a quality manufacturer/supplier. The natural estriol was a God-send to me in recent months. The night sweats/hot flashes, along with vaginal dryness/atrophy, and urinary urgency were ALL driving me wild! The estriol made an immediate difference. Estriol is the weakest form of the 3 natural estrogens we normally have, so it's a good one to start with when your own estrogen drops too low. It is the least dangerous to supplement with, also. If used vaginally, it has much reduced risks. The conventional HRT gets into your bloodstream more (via the digestive tract) and is much more dangerous. I have not tried a compounding pharmacist, but have interest in that.... Might have reduced some of my trial and error over the last several years. Bellevue Pharmacy sounds like a good one to look at (?) if interested. He seems pro-active on working with women (and men) struggling with hormone imbalances. Insurance will usually cover costs, I'm told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Patty, I sent you a link. Ann Re: BIOIDENTICAL HORMONES....A REAL JUGGLING ACT! Ann, Where do you get your estriol cream? I've ordered and used one from off the net, called Doctor's. It has both estriol and progesterone in it. Just wondered what brand you were using, or if it is Rx. Pattyann53ie <ann53ie@...> wrote: I have used a natural progesterone cream for years, which helped TREMENDOUSLY in the perimenopause stage. I recently had to augment with a natural estriol cream, due to entering actual menopause phase. UGH! Although I consider myself well-read on health stuff, I have had a real time with this....passage in my life. STRONGLY recommend you read Dr Lee's "What Your Dr Never Told You About Premenopause" if you are in the 30-40 range, and read Dr Lee's "What Your Dr Never Told You About Menopause" when you are in the 40-50 range or early menopause. Dr Lee was the guru on natural progesterone cream. The kind/brand of progesterone cream you use makes a BIG difference in your results. You need one that is strong enough to only use a very small quantity. I used one from AIM for most of the time. Big results, little cost/day. If you choose to go the natural route, I HIGHLY recommend you get periodic saliva testing to know where you are on the hormone roller coaster before and during natural hormone replacement. Dr Zava with ZRT Labs does a wonderful job and collaborated with Dr Lee, previously, on books/research results. Dr Zava will give you a good summary, with specifics, on your hormone levels. As your body's own hormones fluctuate, your needs for supplementation, CHANGE. The saliva tests let you know where to add, where to subtract. It, along with your symptoms (or lack of), is your "report card" for success in the voyage. I've fought my doctors for years on NOT taking the pregnant mare urine hormones. It's not been easy, but I've lived through it, with less dangerous side effects.....SAVE THOSE UP FOR THESE BLASTED IMPLANTS, HUH?! You can peruse Dr Lee's website for lots of info. Virginia Lee, a co-writer of his, was very helpful to me, in the past, via email. If you go for the natural hormones, make sure they are from a quality manufacturer/supplier. The natural estriol was a God-send to me in recent months. The night sweats/hot flashes, along with vaginal dryness/atrophy, and urinary urgency were ALL driving me wild! The estriol made an immediate difference. Estriol is the weakest form of the 3 natural estrogens we normally have, so it's a good one to start with when your own estrogen drops too low. It is the least dangerous to supplement with, also. If used vaginally, it has much reduced risks. The conventional HRT gets into your bloodstream more (via the digestive tract) and is much more dangerous. I have not tried a compounding pharmacist, but have interest in that.... Might have reduced some of my trial and error over the last several years. Bellevue Pharmacy sounds like a good one to look at (?) if interested. He seems pro-active on working with women (and men) struggling with hormone imbalances. Insurance will usually cover costs, I'm told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Ann, we sound alot alike! I say everyhthing you do, and to the "T" here when it comes to hormones. I do wonderfully at the age of 29 on Dr lee's prgram for stressed adrenals, low progesterone, and getting adequate rest, and cutting out cortisol pushers. I love both his books, and have done saliva testing now over 3 times in the last year. I am realy comin together! I am glad it helped you too! Love, >From: "ann53ie" <ann53ie@...> >Reply- > >Subject: BIOIDENTICAL HORMONES....A REAL JUGGLING ACT! >Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 05:18:28 -0000 > >I have used a natural progesterone cream for years, which helped >TREMENDOUSLY in the perimenopause stage. I recently had to augment >with a natural estriol cream, due to entering actual menopause phase. >UGH! Although I consider myself well-read on health stuff, I have had >a real time with this.....passage in my life. STRONGLY recommend you >read Dr Lee's "What Your Dr Never Told You About Premenopause" >if you are in the 30-40 range, and read Dr Lee's "What Your Dr Never >Told You About Menopause" when you are in the 40-50 range or early >menopause. Dr Lee was the guru on natural progesterone cream. The >kind/brand of progesterone cream you use makes a BIG difference in >your results. You need one that is strong enough to only use a very >small quantity. I used one from AIM for most of the time. Big >results, little cost/day. If you choose to go the natural route, I >HIGHLY recommend you get periodic saliva testing to know where you >are on the hormone roller coaster before and during natural hormone >replacement. Dr Zava with ZRT Labs does a wonderful job and >collaborated with Dr Lee, previously, on books/research results. Dr >Zava will give you a good summary, with specifics, on your hormone >levels. As your body's own hormones fluctuate, your needs for >supplementation, CHANGE. The saliva tests let you know where to add, >where to subtract. It, along with your symptoms (or lack of), is >your "report card" for success in the voyage. I've fought my doctors >for years on NOT taking the pregnant mare urine hormones. It's not >been easy, but I've lived through it, with less dangerous side >effects.....SAVE THOSE UP FOR THESE BLASTED IMPLANTS, HUH?! You can >peruse Dr Lee's website for lots of info. Virginia Lee, a co-writer >of his, was very helpful to me, in the past, via email. If you go for >the natural hormones, make sure they are from a quality >manufacturer/supplier. The natural estriol was a God-send to me in >recent months. The night sweats/hot flashes, along with vaginal >dryness/atrophy, and urinary urgency were ALL driving me wild! The >estriol made an immediate difference. Estriol is the weakest form of >the 3 natural estrogens we normally have, so it's a good one to start >with when your own estrogen drops too low. It is the least dangerous >to supplement with, also. If used vaginally, it has much reduced >risks. The conventional HRT gets into your bloodstream more (via the >digestive tract) and is much more dangerous. I have not tried a >compounding pharmacist, but have interest in that.... Might have >reduced some of my trial and error over the last several years. >Bellevue Pharmacy sounds like a good one to look at (?) if >interested. He seems pro-active on working with women (and men) >struggling with hormone imbalances. Insurance will usually cover >costs, I'm told. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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