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Would anyone like to summarise these?

> By the way, did Poliquin successfully train explosive athletes like

> these? Is there any reference for his methods for the power athlete?

Donovan for one. Poliquin's bobled athletes had great starts.

Weighing 220, Pierre Lueders did a 352 power clean and a 462 front

squat. What's interesting is that in Poliquin's program to improve

the 40-yard-dash he wrote for my athletes, he doesn't recommend any

running during the first phase of the program--just strength training.

Thank you,

Kim Goss

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Mel and group

Can any one tell me why studies say that some coaches use a

plyometric warm up right before a tested sprint session? Is there

some sort of neural shock?(conducted at Ballarat college) These

people claim that the window is anywhere between 5-10 minutes where

you are going to get a better response.? What might that time limit

be, and if running numerous races, is it beneficial to warm up each

time with plyometric type movements? Is excitability heightened by

these warm ups? Then if this was true, wouldnt it make sense to lift

first then speed work?

Dan Fichter NY

- In Supertraining@y..., COACHKIMGOSS@a... wrote:

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>

> Would anyone like to summarise these?

> > By the way, did Poliquin successfully train explosive athletes

like

> > these? Is there any reference for his methods for the power

athlete?

>

> Donovan for one. Poliquin's bobled athletes had great

starts.

> Weighing 220, Pierre Lueders did a 352 power clean and a 462 front

> squat. What's interesting is that in Poliquin's program to improve

> the 40-yard-dash he wrote for my athletes, he doesn't recommend any

> running during the first phase of the program--just strength

training.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Kim Goss

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> Would anyone like to summarise these?

> > By the way, did Poliquin successfully train explosive athletes

like

> > these? Is there any reference for his methods for the power

athlete?

>

> Donovan for one. Poliquin's bobled athletes had great

starts.

> Weighing 220, Pierre Lueders did a 352 power clean and a 462 front

> squat. What's interesting is that in Poliquin's program to improve

> the 40-yard-dash he wrote for my athletes, he doesn't recommend any

> running during the first phase of the program--just strength

training.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Kim Goss

******** Can you illustate how this 40 yard dash training is

different in what ways without giving too many details? And does

Poliquin have any references for his style of explosive training? I

hear that he does assign plyos very often.

Green

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> >

> > Would anyone like to summarise these?

> > > By the way, did Poliquin successfully train explosive athletes

> like

> > > these? Is there any reference for his methods for the power

> athlete?

> >

> > Donovan for one. Poliquin's bobled athletes had great

> starts.

> > Weighing 220, Pierre Lueders did a 352 power clean and a 462

front

> > squat. What's interesting is that in Poliquin's program to

improve

> > the 40-yard-dash he wrote for my athletes, he doesn't recommend

any

> > running during the first phase of the program--just strength

> training.

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> > Kim Goss

> ******** Can you illustate how this 40 yard dash training is

> different in what ways without giving too many details? And does

> Poliquin have any references for his style of explosive training? I

> hear that he does assign plyos very often.

>

> Green

> Escondido Ca.

********* my mistake i heard that he does NOT assign plyos except for

the very high level athletes.

green

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(Kim and others)....

I'm a little confused...are you suggesting that Poliquin has coached Donovan

?...

he has worked with some of the athletes at U-Texas, but it was with Bev

Kearney's female sprinters,

not Dan's male pros..... Also, don't believe everything you read in

the " Poliquin Principles " ... Leuders has indeed cleaned 160k (he

struggles to get up 140 now), but BACK squatted (to 90) 210, not

FRONT squatted...neither of these numbers is really that impressive...

You also refer to his work with the bobbers and their

starts...Poliquin did very little work with the Canadian sliders (he

worked on and off with only a few sliders - Leuders, Pyk, Kittle, and

Danney) - never full-time, and having very little say on their track workouts.

It seems, on this list, that Poliquin is a little " over-revered " . He may be a

great strength coach, but the problem I have with guys like him is that they do

not seem to truly understand the

specific demands of speed/power sports. There is much more to being

a great bobsledder (or football player, or hockey player, etc..) than

size and strength. Don't get me wrong - I'm not slagging - I

just want to set the record straight on why the Canadians had success

through the 90s in bobsleigh - a FREAK named Dave MaCeachern - NOT

Poliquin.

Stuart McMillan

Canada

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It was written:

<<By the way, did Poliquin successfully train explosive athletes like these?

Is there any reference for his methods for the power athlete? >>

Kim Goss:

<Donovan for one. Poliquin's bobsled athletes had great

starts. Weighing 220, Pierre Lueders did a 352 power clean and a 462

front squat. What's interesting is that in Poliquin's program to

improve the 40-yard-dash he wrote for my athletes, he doesn't recommend

any running during the first phase of the program--just strength training.

<< Can you illustate how this 40 yard dash training is

different in what ways without giving too many details? And does

Poliquin have any references for his style of explosive training?

I hear that he does assign plyos very often.

> > Green

> > Escondido Ca.

> *********

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Stuart,

I also have a hard time picturing Donovan under the whip of

Poliquin. I can't say, because Donovan has been a " wanderer "

after the World Championship in 1997, so may be he also strength

trained for a while under sometimes before he went back to Dan.

Anyway at the top level of sprinting, strength training doesn't

usually add as much as people think to the final result (in fact

three of the best speed coaches ever all use different strength

training methods, and these are quite basic too).

Best,

Carlo Buzzichelli

Siena, Italy

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