Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 Would anyone like to summarise these? > By the way, did Poliquin successfully train explosive athletes like > these? Is there any reference for his methods for the power athlete? Donovan for one. Poliquin's bobled athletes had great starts. Weighing 220, Pierre Lueders did a 352 power clean and a 462 front squat. What's interesting is that in Poliquin's program to improve the 40-yard-dash he wrote for my athletes, he doesn't recommend any running during the first phase of the program--just strength training. Thank you, Kim Goss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 -- Mel and group Can any one tell me why studies say that some coaches use a plyometric warm up right before a tested sprint session? Is there some sort of neural shock?(conducted at Ballarat college) These people claim that the window is anywhere between 5-10 minutes where you are going to get a better response.? What might that time limit be, and if running numerous races, is it beneficial to warm up each time with plyometric type movements? Is excitability heightened by these warm ups? Then if this was true, wouldnt it make sense to lift first then speed work? Dan Fichter NY - In Supertraining@y..., COACHKIMGOSS@a... wrote: > > > Would anyone like to summarise these? > > By the way, did Poliquin successfully train explosive athletes like > > these? Is there any reference for his methods for the power athlete? > > Donovan for one. Poliquin's bobled athletes had great starts. > Weighing 220, Pierre Lueders did a 352 power clean and a 462 front > squat. What's interesting is that in Poliquin's program to improve > the 40-yard-dash he wrote for my athletes, he doesn't recommend any > running during the first phase of the program--just strength training. > > Thank you, > > Kim Goss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 > > Would anyone like to summarise these? > > By the way, did Poliquin successfully train explosive athletes like > > these? Is there any reference for his methods for the power athlete? > > Donovan for one. Poliquin's bobled athletes had great starts. > Weighing 220, Pierre Lueders did a 352 power clean and a 462 front > squat. What's interesting is that in Poliquin's program to improve > the 40-yard-dash he wrote for my athletes, he doesn't recommend any > running during the first phase of the program--just strength training. > > Thank you, > > Kim Goss ******** Can you illustate how this 40 yard dash training is different in what ways without giving too many details? And does Poliquin have any references for his style of explosive training? I hear that he does assign plyos very often. Green Escondido Ca. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 > > > > Would anyone like to summarise these? > > > By the way, did Poliquin successfully train explosive athletes > like > > > these? Is there any reference for his methods for the power > athlete? > > > > Donovan for one. Poliquin's bobled athletes had great > starts. > > Weighing 220, Pierre Lueders did a 352 power clean and a 462 front > > squat. What's interesting is that in Poliquin's program to improve > > the 40-yard-dash he wrote for my athletes, he doesn't recommend any > > running during the first phase of the program--just strength > training. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Kim Goss > ******** Can you illustate how this 40 yard dash training is > different in what ways without giving too many details? And does > Poliquin have any references for his style of explosive training? I > hear that he does assign plyos very often. > > Green > Escondido Ca. ********* my mistake i heard that he does NOT assign plyos except for the very high level athletes. green Escondido Ca. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2001 Report Share Posted June 29, 2001 (Kim and others).... I'm a little confused...are you suggesting that Poliquin has coached Donovan ?... he has worked with some of the athletes at U-Texas, but it was with Bev Kearney's female sprinters, not Dan's male pros..... Also, don't believe everything you read in the " Poliquin Principles " ... Leuders has indeed cleaned 160k (he struggles to get up 140 now), but BACK squatted (to 90) 210, not FRONT squatted...neither of these numbers is really that impressive... You also refer to his work with the bobbers and their starts...Poliquin did very little work with the Canadian sliders (he worked on and off with only a few sliders - Leuders, Pyk, Kittle, and Danney) - never full-time, and having very little say on their track workouts. It seems, on this list, that Poliquin is a little " over-revered " . He may be a great strength coach, but the problem I have with guys like him is that they do not seem to truly understand the specific demands of speed/power sports. There is much more to being a great bobsledder (or football player, or hockey player, etc..) than size and strength. Don't get me wrong - I'm not slagging - I just want to set the record straight on why the Canadians had success through the 90s in bobsleigh - a FREAK named Dave MaCeachern - NOT Poliquin. Stuart McMillan Canada ------------------------------ It was written: <<By the way, did Poliquin successfully train explosive athletes like these? Is there any reference for his methods for the power athlete? >> Kim Goss: <Donovan for one. Poliquin's bobsled athletes had great starts. Weighing 220, Pierre Lueders did a 352 power clean and a 462 front squat. What's interesting is that in Poliquin's program to improve the 40-yard-dash he wrote for my athletes, he doesn't recommend any running during the first phase of the program--just strength training. << Can you illustate how this 40 yard dash training is different in what ways without giving too many details? And does Poliquin have any references for his style of explosive training? I hear that he does assign plyos very often. > > Green > > Escondido Ca. > ********* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2001 Report Share Posted June 29, 2001 Stuart, I also have a hard time picturing Donovan under the whip of Poliquin. I can't say, because Donovan has been a " wanderer " after the World Championship in 1997, so may be he also strength trained for a while under sometimes before he went back to Dan. Anyway at the top level of sprinting, strength training doesn't usually add as much as people think to the final result (in fact three of the best speed coaches ever all use different strength training methods, and these are quite basic too). Best, Carlo Buzzichelli Siena, Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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