Re: Help with Ironmind Super Squats Hip Belt.

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Hello ,

I've used the belt with a pair of dumbell's and it worked nicely. I have

found it hard to keep balance and used the rack to keep it. But I do

believe a person can learn to go deep with out holding on.

Hope this helps.

Rich Vagle

Apache Junction, AZ.

>From: " Driscoll " <driscoll_david@...>

>Reply-Supertraining

>Supertraining , weights@...

>Subject: Help with Ironmind Super Squats Hip Belt.

>Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 22:31:02

>

>

>I've just recently bought a Hip belt for Squatting (from www.ironmind.com)

>and am struggling with setting it up properly. (I'm also contacting

>Ironmind

>to see if they can help)

>

>The problem occurs when trying to squat deeply (although the problem starts

>at about 45-55 degrees (knee angle) and certainly doesn't allow me to get

>much past 90 degrees if at all, and I'd like to be going 'femur to

>parallel'!)

>

>It appears that since there is a strap at the back (as well as at the

>front)

>attaching to the bar, as you get deeper, the belt appears to pull you down

>from behind (like it encourages the pelvis to rotate posteriorly (ASIS

>rotates posteriorly)).

>

>To compensate, I tend to (naturally) lean forward (from the hip) and then

>it

>just becomes a balancing act.

>

>I've tried to unload the back part of the belt as much as possible, so it

>feels more like a dipping or chinning belt, but it doesn't help much.

>

>I've tried wearing the belt high and low on the hips and it helps slightly,

>(but too high and it just slides off).

>

>I've tried to make it more like a safety squat (or hack squat) whereby you

>hang off vertically orientated bars to have you feet further forward and

>remain upright, but this doesn't help much either.

>

>Using an olympic E-Z curl bar doesn't help, and no matter where I move the

>daisy chains (attaching the bar to the belt) forward or back along the bar

>it only helps minimally.

>

>I've tried raising the heels but it only helps to a point (getting a little

>bit lower, but knee angle doesn't change much)

>

>A combination of all of these strategies has improved the depth a little,

>but no where near squatting to parallel. This is especially important with

>two speed skaters that I am training who spend most of the race in a very

>low position. Back injuries prevent them from doing any conventional heavy

>deadlifts, squats, dumbell squats and even leg press (when the pads hold

>you

>in at the shoulders). We're geting sick of step ups!

>

>I've tried it with five other friends, of different heights, physiques,

>experience and squatting technique (high bar vs low bar, torso upright vs

>those who tend to lean forward) and we all have the same problem at about

>the same angles.

>

>The main problem is that all of the books have still pictures at shallow

>knee angles - which makes me wonder if they (the photos) are set-up like

>that? Does anyone have any video footage of the Ironmind Belt Squat in

>action?

>

>I'm really at a loss to work out a solution (and i'm now wondering if there

>is one). If no-one has any experience with these I might send some video

>footage and see if anyone can suggest anything.

>

>Thanks in advance

>

> Driscoll

>BEFITting Image Training and Nutrition Service

>B Sc - Ex. Sci. & Nut.

>M Sc - Exercise Rehab. and Nut./Diet. (in progress)

>RFL

>Sydney, Australia.

>

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