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I truly can't offer any advice but just my thoughts and prayers. My son Evan is 4mos old and going back for a 2nd opinion tomorrow to see if his curve has progressed from 33degrees- We have sent information to Shriners and that will be our next step. Good luck and I hope some of these awesome ladies will help you out w/what you need to ask and research-They have truly helped me Evan 8/7/05 Sinanis <kelpaulton@...> wrote: So, it turns out that 's curve got worse from his first x-ray back at the end of August. It is now 35 degrees and then it was 30. He has a unilateral bar from T8-T12. The ortho wants to do surgery. He's done spinal surgery on over 100 1-2 year olds. He has done other types of surgery on babies as young

as 2 months old. He has been treating our son since last February for a right clubfoot. He is the chief of pediatric orthopedic surgery at NYU and has been voted as one of New York's best doctors in New York Magazine for many many years. We will definitely seek other opinions, but I think I would trust him to do the surgery. His name is Feldman. We will probably also go see Dr. Boachie or Dr. Widmann. Any advice, any questions I should ask, ANYTHING would be greatly appreciated. I'm at a loss just thinking about everything. The surgery itself, the anesthesia, whahe will be able to eat/not eat, how he will sleep, sit, how the cast will be, how the brace will be, etc. He's already wearing a brace every night for his foot (he was born with a right clubfoot). Fun times. He's such a little sweetie pie and I know this whole ordeal will be very trying and I hope and pray that all will go well

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wow! surgery seems so extreme at such a young age. our daughter, lexi is 2 and had a 35o curve this same time last year and we casted her in august for the first time. as of now, she is 13o in cast. i would seek other options as fusion surgery seems so extreme to me at such a young age. i would love to post more right now, but am in a time crunch. i am sure more mothers on here will give you their stories.

tracey

Please help! Just learned that my one-year-old will need spinal fusion surgery.

So, it turns out that 's curve got worse from his first x-ray back at the end of August. It is now 35 degrees and then it was 30. He has a unilateral bar from T8-T12. The ortho wants to do surgery. He's done spinal surgery on over 100 1-2 year olds. He has done other types of surgery on babies as young as 2 months old. He has been treating our son since last February for a right clubfoot. He is the chief of pediatric orthopedic surgery at NYU and has been voted as one of New York's best doctors in New York Magazine for many many years. We will definitely seek other opinions, but I think I would trust him to do the surgery. His name is Feldman. We will probably also go see Dr. Boachie or Dr. Widmann.

Any advice, any questions I should ask, ANYTHING would be greatly appreciated. I'm at a loss just thinking about everything. The surgery itself, the anesthesia, whahe will be able to eat/not eat, how he will sleep, sit, how the cast will be, how the brace will be, etc. He's already wearing a brace every night for his foot (he was born with a right clubfoot). Fun times. He's such a little sweetie pie and I know this whole ordeal will be very trying and I hope and pray that all will go well and that he won't need anything beyond this.....

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What is a unilateral bar from T8-T12? This is not something I have heard, and may be a congenital reason that he wants to do surgery. Otherwise I agree that surgery at that degree and age seems very drastic.

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From: infantile scoliosis treatment [mailto:infantile scoliosis treatment ] On Behalf Of TraceySent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 12:53 PMinfantile scoliosis treatment Subject: Re: Please help! Just learned that my one-year-old will need spinal fusion surgery.

wow! surgery seems so extreme at such a young age. our daughter, lexi is 2 and had a 35o curve this same time last year and we casted her in august for the first time. as of now, she is 13o in cast. i would seek other options as fusion surgery seems so extreme to me at such a young age. i would love to post more right now, but am in a time crunch. i am sure more mothers on here will give you their stories.

tracey

Please help! Just learned that my one-year-old will need spinal fusion surgery.

So, it turns out that 's curve got worse from his first x-ray back at the end of August. It is now 35 degrees and then it was 30. He has a unilateral bar from T8-T12. The ortho wants to do surgery. He's done spinal surgery on over 100 1-2 year olds. He has done other types of surgery on babies as young as 2 months old. He has been treating our son since last February for a right clubfoot. He is the chief of pediatric orthopedic surgery at NYU and has been voted as one of New York's best doctors in New York Magazine for many many years. We will definitely seek other opinions, but I think I would trust him to do the surgery. His name is Feldman. We will probably also go see Dr. Boachie or Dr. Widmann.

Any advice, any questions I should ask, ANYTHING would be greatly appreciated. I'm at a loss just thinking about everything. The surgery itself, the anesthesia, whahe will be able to eat/not eat, how he will sleep, sit, how the cast will be, how the brace will be, etc. He's already wearing a brace every night for his foot (he was born with a right clubfoot). Fun times. He's such a little sweetie pie and I know this whole ordeal will be very trying and I hope and pray that all will go well and that he won't need anything beyond this.....

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Is he congenital and that is why they are doing surgery? I don't know a lot about congenital scoli, but recommend you look into the VEPTR procedure vs. the fusion. Carmell and Shellie would be the ones to talk to about VEPTR. I know there is a VEPTR message board that they can probably provide the link for.

Noelle (12-2-01)Ian (8-15-04)

Please help! Just learned that my one-year-old will need spinal fusion surgery.

So, it turns out that 's curve got worse from his first x-ray back at the end of August. It is now 35 degrees and then it was 30. He has a unilateral bar from T8-T12. The ortho wants to do surgery. He's done spinal surgery on over 100 1-2 year olds. He has done other types of surgery on babies as young as 2 months old. He has been treating our son since last February for a right clubfoot. He is the chief of pediatric orthopedic surgery at NYU and has been voted as one of New York's best doctors in New York Magazine for many many years. We will definitely seek other opinions, but I think I would trust him to do the surgery. His name is Feldman. We will probably also go see Dr. Boachie or Dr. Widmann.

Any advice, any questions I should ask, ANYTHING would be greatly appreciated. I'm at a loss just thinking about everything. The surgery itself, the anesthesia, whahe will be able to eat/not eat, how he will sleep, sit, how the cast will be, how the brace will be, etc. He's already wearing a brace every night for his foot (he was born with a right clubfoot). Fun times. He's such a little sweetie pie and I know this whole ordeal will be very trying and I hope and pray that all will go well and that he won't need anything beyond this.....

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Hi ,

<<He has a unilateral bar from T8-T12. The ortho

wants to do surgery.>>

My son had spinal fusion surgery at age 11 months old.

He is fused from T5-L1. 's congenital anomalies

are in a similar area as Braydon's. He would have the

vertebrae just above and just below the anomolous

verts fused for stability. That means they would fuse

from T7-L1. This is a HUGE part of the thoracic

spine. PLEASE consider getting another opinion. The

orthos at NYU are wonderful for adolescent and adult

scoliosis patients, especially those who need revision

surgery after failed previous procedures. However,

they are NOT up-to-date on the latest NON-fusion

procedures for infants and toddlers.

Braydon's thoracic spine is very rigid and fused

solid. It does not grow vertically. His trunk/body

is disproportionately shorter than his limbs are long.

The fusion stops all vertical growth of that part of

the spine. It grows in thickness, but not vertically.

Braydon's height is already 4 inches shorter than it

should be, because of the fusion. He is only 10yrs

old and has a lot more growth ahead of him. The

disproportionate trunk and limbs will continue to

increase.

A 35 degree curve is not an emergency. You have time

to find other opinions and gather more information to

give the best medical care possible. Fusion may

be the right thing for him, but you want to be 100%

certain. You can never UN-DO a fusion.

Had the VEPTR procedure been perfected when Braydon

was an infant, he would have been able to avoid some,

if not all, fusion of his spine. The VEPTR procedure

Braydon had done at age 6yrs has given his lungs more

room to function and has stabilized the spine.

If I were you, I would get another opinion from docs

like Dr. Betz at Shriners in Philly, Dr. Emans in

Boston, Dr. Crawford in Cincinnati, etc. Then, I

would go back to Dr. Feldman and ask him what the

outcome has been of the patients he fused as

infants/toddlers. How many have long term compromised

lung function? How many have disproportionately short

trunks? How many have had more fusion surgeries later

in life (due to the instability of the entire spine,

if applicable)?

Hopefully you will find the right plan that you are

100% confident with for .

My best!

Carmell

mom to Kara 19, idiopathic scoliosis, Blake 15, GERD and Braydon 10, VACTERL,

GERD, DGE, Titanium Rib Project patient #137 (dbl implant 8/01), thoracic

insufficiency, rib anomalies, congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery 5/96),

missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC (released 4/99), anal stenosis, chronic

constipation, horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney,

ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97), neurogenic

bladder, bilateral hip dysplasia, right leg/foot dyplasia, tibial torsion,

clubfoot with 8 toes (reconstructed 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), pes cavus, single

umblilical artery, tonsil-adnoidectomy and ear tubes (3/98), etc.

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I agree with Tracey...they usually try to avoid surgery this young esp. the fusion surgery because where they fuse the bone it actually stunts their growth. As I said, there are others on this board far more knowledgeable about that than me.

The key is to find out if she is congenital verses idiopathic. If she is idiopathic, there are other alternatives to surgery.

Noelle (12-2-01)Ian (8-15-04)

Please help! Just learned that my one-year-old will need spinal fusion surgery.

So, it turns out that 's curve got worse from his first x-ray back at the end of August. It is now 35 degrees and then it was 30. He has a unilateral bar from T8-T12. The ortho wants to do surgery. He's done spinal surgery on over 100 1-2 year olds. He has done other types of surgery on babies as young as 2 months old. He has been treating our son since last February for a right clubfoot. He is the chief of pediatric orthopedic surgery at NYU and has been voted as one of New York's best doctors in New York Magazine for many many years. We will definitely seek other opinions, but I think I would trust him to do the surgery. His name is Feldman. We will probably also go see Dr. Boachie or Dr. Widmann.

Any advice, any questions I should ask, ANYTHING would be greatly appreciated. I'm at a loss just thinking about everything. The surgery itself, the anesthesia, whahe will be able to eat/not eat, how he will sleep, sit, how the cast will be, how the brace will be, etc. He's already wearing a brace every night for his foot (he was born with a right clubfoot). Fun times. He's such a little sweetie pie and I know this whole ordeal will be very trying and I hope and pray that all will go well and that he won't need anything beyond this.....

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Hi again, ,

<<He's already wearing a brace every night for his

foot (he was born with a right clubfoot).>>

Braydon also was born with a right clubfoot. By age

3yrs old, his right leg was shorter than the left leg.

Once we were able to have the VEPTR surgery and

stabilize the spine (including giving his body better

overall balance, etc.) we were able to put a lift in

his shoe to allow him to walk without a limp. There

are so many things that play a part in the decision to

have major surgery. I'm just a little worried that

the docs aren't considering the future for .

Fusion now would stop the progression, but would cause

a domino-effect of problems later. Let me know what

they say, and how things are going.

Carmell

mom to Kara 19, idiopathic scoliosis, Blake 15, GERD and Braydon 10, VACTERL,

GERD, DGE, Titanium Rib Project patient #137 (dbl implant 8/01), thoracic

insufficiency, rib anomalies, congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery 5/96),

missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC (released 4/99), anal stenosis, chronic

constipation, horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney,

ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97), neurogenic

bladder, bilateral hip dysplasia, right leg/foot dyplasia, tibial torsion,

clubfoot with 8 toes (reconstructed 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), pes cavus, single

umblilical artery, tonsil-adnoidectomy and ear tubes (3/98), etc.

http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/

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Sorry, I said she in my response and I meant "he". Sorry about that.

Noelle (12-2-01)Ian (8-15-04)

Please help! Just learned that my one-year-old will need spinal fusion surgery.

So, it turns out that 's curve got worse from his first x-ray back at the end of August. It is now 35 degrees and then it was 30. He has a unilateral bar from T8-T12. The ortho wants to do surgery. He's done spinal surgery on over 100 1-2 year olds. He has done other types of surgery on babies as young as 2 months old. He has been treating our son since last February for a right clubfoot. He is the chief of pediatric orthopedic surgery at NYU and has been voted as one of New York's best doctors in New York Magazine for many many years. We will definitely seek other opinions, but I think I would trust him to do the surgery. His name is Feldman. We will probably also go see Dr. Boachie or Dr. Widmann.

Any advice, any questions I should ask, ANYTHING would be greatly appreciated. I'm at a loss just thinking about everything. The surgery itself, the anesthesia, whahe will be able to eat/not eat, how he will sleep, sit, how the cast will be, how the brace will be, etc. He's already wearing a brace every night for his foot (he was born with a right clubfoot). Fun times. He's such a little sweetie pie and I know this whole ordeal will be very trying and I hope and pray that all will go well and that he won't need anything beyond this.....

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<<What is a unilateral bar from T8-T12?>>

I'm attaching a drawing of some of the congenital

malformations of the spine that can happen before

birth. HTH

Carmell

mom to Kara 19, idiopathic scoliosis, Blake 15, GERD and Braydon 10, VACTERL,

GERD, DGE, Titanium Rib Project patient #137 (dbl implant 8/01), thoracic

insufficiency, rib anomalies, congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery 5/96),

missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC (released 4/99), anal stenosis, chronic

constipation, horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney,

ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97), neurogenic

bladder, bilateral hip dysplasia, right leg/foot dyplasia, tibial torsion,

clubfoot with 8 toes (reconstructed 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), pes cavus, single

umblilical artery, tonsil-adnoidectomy and ear tubes (3/98), etc.

http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/

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Wow, that is very helpful, thanks!

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,<<What is a unilateral bar from T8-T12?>>I'm attaching a drawing of some of the congenitalmalformations of the spine that can happen beforebirth. HTHCarmellmom to Kara 19, idiopathic scoliosis, Blake 15, GERD and Braydon 10, VACTERL, GERD, DGE, Titanium Rib Project patient #137 (dbl implant 8/01), thoracic insufficiency, rib anomalies, congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery 5/96), missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC (released 4/99), anal stenosis, chronic constipation, horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney, ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97), neurogenic bladder, bilateral hip dysplasia, right leg/foot dyplasia, tibial torsion, clubfoot with 8 toes (reconstructed 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), pes cavus, single umblilical artery, tonsil-adnoidectomy and ear tubes (3/98), etc. http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/ __________________________________________ DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.

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I'm assuming his scoliosis is congenital and they've confirmed

this with an MRI?? If that's correct then what kind of anomalies

where found with in his spine? I don't know much about congenital

scoliosis, I'm just barely sorting things out with our case, but I

do remember my Ortho telling me (before we found it was idiopathic)

that with congenital sometimes surgery can't be avoided, sometimes

they have to correct the malformation however they're are able to in

order to hold the spine straight while it's growing. If it's

something like a wedge vertabrae (I read a lot about congenital

malformations of the spine when waiting to hear if ours was or not)

then it seems like it's pretty cut and dry procedure in correcting

it & then you can focus on keeping the spine straight while it's

growing, if the vertabrae is connected though in anyway though then

it's impossible to straighten it without surgery. Once the

malformation is corrected then hopefully you'll be successful in

keeping the spine straight & once the spine fuses he'll probably be

able to rid his cast even sooner then those of us with idiopathic

scoliosis cases! (on the brite side anyway).

Surgery on your little baby is aweful to think about and imagine, I

did it for a short time before even knowing for sure whether we'd

have to face it (and I still don't) but just keep the end of the

road in mind, atleast he's young enough now that he won't remeber &

ideally he'll be running around as a little boy w/out much

recollection of any of it!

If they haven't confirmed it's congenital with and MRI, or if it's

still considered an idiopathic case, then I say he's crazy of course

for talking about spinal fusion & definitely get another opinion..

but like I said above, I'm assuming that's not the case!

Good luck with everything, again, I've read that some kinds of

spinal fusion/vertabrae seperation can be pretty cut & dry

procedures, I guess it depends on what the issues are w/his spine as

to how involved the surgery will be. But if you have that much

confidence & trust in your ortho that's huge & should (in itself)

help ease your worry... God bless your family through it all!

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> So, it turns out that 's curve got worse from his first x-ray

back at the end of August. It is now 35 degrees and then it was

30. He has a unilateral bar from T8-T12. The ortho wants to do

surgery. He's done spinal surgery on over 100 1-2 year olds. He

has done other types of surgery on babies as young as 2 months old.

He has been treating our son since last February for a right

clubfoot. He is the chief of pediatric orthopedic surgery at NYU

and has been voted as one of New York's best doctors in New York

Magazine for many many years. We will definitely seek other

opinions, but I think I would trust him to do the surgery. His name

is Feldman. We will probably also go see Dr. Boachie or Dr.

Widmann.

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> Any advice, any questions I should ask, ANYTHING would be

greatly appreciated. I'm at a loss just thinking about everything.

The surgery itself, the anesthesia, whahe will be able to eat/not

eat, how he will sleep, sit, how the cast will be, how the brace

will be, etc. He's already wearing a brace every night for his foot

(he was born with a right clubfoot). Fun times. He's such a little

sweetie pie and I know this whole ordeal will be very trying and I

hope and pray that all will go well and that he won't need anything

beyond this.....

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I am not Carmell or Shellie, but you can check out www.veptr.com

My dd, , is also a VEPTR recipient.

Gail

Please help! Just learned that my one-year-old will need spinal fusion surgery.

So, it turns out that 's curve got worse from his first x-ray back at the end of August. It is now 35 degrees and then it was 30. He has a unilateral bar from T8-T12. The ortho wants to do surgery. He's done spinal surgery on over 100 1-2 year olds. He has done other types of surgery on babies as young as 2 months old. He has been treating our son since last February for a right clubfoot. He is the chief of pediatric orthopedic surgery at NYU and has been voted as one of New York's best doctors in New York Magazine for many many years. We will definitely seek other opinions, but I think I would trust him to do the surgery. His name is Feldman. We will probably also go see Dr. Boachie or Dr. Widmann.

Any advice, any questions I should ask, ANYTHING would be greatly appreciated. I'm at a loss just thinking about everything. The surgery itself, the anesthesia, whahe will be able to eat/not eat, how he will sleep, sit, how the cast will be, how the brace will be, etc. He's already wearing a brace every night for his foot (he was born with a right clubfoot). Fun times. He's such a little sweetie pie and I know this whole ordeal will be very trying and I hope and pray that all will go well and that he won't need anything beyond this.....

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Gail, I should have mentioned your name! I knew there was a VEPTR mom that I was missing!

Noelle (12-2-01)Ian (8-15-04)

Please help! Just learned that my one-year-old will need spinal fusion surgery.

So, it turns out that 's curve got worse from his first x-ray back at the end of August. It is now 35 degrees and then it was 30. He has a unilateral bar from T8-T12. The ortho wants to do surgery. He's done spinal surgery on over 100 1-2 year olds. He has done other types of surgery on babies as young as 2 months old. He has been treating our son since last February for a right clubfoot. He is the chief of pediatric orthopedic surgery at NYU and has been voted as one of New York's best doctors in New York Magazine for many many years. We will definitely seek other opinions, but I think I would trust him to do the surgery. His name is Feldman. We will probably also go see Dr. Boachie or Dr. Widmann.

Any advice, any questions I should ask, ANYTHING would be greatly appreciated. I'm at a loss just thinking about everything. The surgery itself, the anesthesia, whahe will be able to eat/not eat, how he will sleep, sit, how the cast will be, how the brace will be, etc. He's already wearing a brace every night for his foot (he was born with a right clubfoot). Fun times. He's such a little sweetie pie and I know this whole ordeal will be very trying and I hope and pray that all will go well and that he won't need anything beyond this.....

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No worries! It is hard to keep everyone straight - I keep trying, but don't do it very well.

gail

Please help! Just learned that my one-year-old will need spinal fusion surgery.

So, it turns out that 's curve got worse from his first x-ray back at the end of August. It is now 35 degrees and then it was 30. He has a unilateral bar from T8-T12. The ortho wants to do surgery. He's done spinal surgery on over 100 1-2 year olds. He has done other types of surgery on babies as young as 2 months old. He has been treating our son since last February for a right clubfoot. He is the chief of pediatric orthopedic surgery at NYU and has been voted as one of New York's best doctors in New York Magazine for many many years. We will definitely seek other opinions, but I think I would trust him to do the surgery. His name is Feldman. We will probably also go see Dr. Boachie or Dr. Widmann.

Any advice, any questions I should ask, ANYTHING would be greatly appreciated. I'm at a loss just thinking about everything. The surgery itself, the anesthesia, whahe will be able to eat/not eat, how he will sleep, sit, how the cast will be, how the brace will be, etc. He's already wearing a brace every night for his foot (he was born with a right clubfoot). Fun times. He's such a little sweetie pie and I know this whole ordeal will be very trying and I hope and pray that all will go well and that he won't need anything beyond this.....

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Thank you--thoughts and prayers are just as good as advice. We really appreciate it. mommy to (12/15/04) <basketsnboyds@...> wrote: I truly can't offer any advice but just my thoughts and prayers. My son Evan is 4mos old and going back for a 2nd opinion tomorrow to see if his curve has progressed from 33degrees- We have sent information to Shriners and that will be our next step. Good luck and I hope some of these awesome ladies will help you out w/what you need to ask and research-They have truly helped me Evan 8/7/05 Sinanis <kelpaulton@...> wrote: So, it turns out that 's curve got worse from his first x-ray back at the end of August. It is now 35 degrees and then it was 30. He has a unilateral bar from T8-T12. The ortho wants to do surgery. He's done spinal surgery on over 100 1-2 year olds. He has done other types of surgery on babies as young as 2 months old. He has been treating our son since last February for a right clubfoot. He is the chief of pediatric orthopedic surgery at NYU and has been voted as one of New York's best doctors in New York Magazine for many many years. We will definitely seek other opinions, but I think I would trust him to do the surgery. His name is Feldman. We will probably also go see Dr. Boachie or Dr. Widmann. Any advice, any questions I should ask, ANYTHING would be greatly appreciated. I'm at a loss just thinking about everything. The surgery itself, the

anesthesia, whahe will be able to eat/not eat, how he will sleep, sit, how the cast will be, how the brace will be, etc. He's already wearing a brace every night for his foot (he was born with a right clubfoot). Fun times. He's such a little sweetie pie and I know this whole ordeal will be very trying and I hope and pray that all will go well and that he won't need anything beyond this..... __________________________________________________

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That's okay! ;-) Claflin <noellesmommy@...> wrote: Sorry, I said she in my response and I meant "he". Sorry about that. Noelle (12-2-01)Ian (8-15-04) Please help! Just learned that my one-year-old will need spinal fusion surgery. So, it turns out that 's curve got worse from his first x-ray back at the end of August. It is now 35 degrees and then it was 30. He has a unilateral bar from T8-T12. The ortho wants to do surgery. He's done spinal surgery on

over 100 1-2 year olds. He has done other types of surgery on babies as young as 2 months old. He has been treating our son since last February for a right clubfoot. He is the chief of pediatric orthopedic surgery at NYU and has been voted as one of New York's best doctors in New York Magazine for many many years. We will definitely seek other opinions, but I think I would trust him to do the surgery. His name is Feldman. We will probably also go see Dr. Boachie or Dr. Widmann. Any advice, any questions I should ask, ANYTHING would be greatly appreciated. I'm at a loss just thinking about everything. The surgery itself, the anesthesia, whahe will be able to eat/not eat, how he will sleep, sit, how the cast will be, how the brace will be, etc. He's already wearing a brace every night for his foot (he was born with a right clubfoot). Fun times. He's such a little sweetie pie and I

know this whole ordeal will be very trying and I hope and pray that all will go well and that he won't need anything beyond this..... __________________________________________________

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Thank you all for your replies! I'm so overwhelmed with your support and advice! While I am sorry there are so many children out there who have had to deal with so many issues, it IS good to have each other for support. Yes, 's scoliosis is congenital and it's been confirmed with an MRI. He has no other spine abnormalities. The cord is okay. The rest of the vertebrae are okay. His organs are okay. He has other "anomalies" not involving the spine. He was born with a right clubfoot (leg lengths are the same), torticollis (head tilts to the left), tightness in a few fingers (currently 3 fingers don't fully extend, an improvement from 6 fingers prior to OT), left ptosis (droopy eyelid), and...I think that's all..... As much as I hate to send my son off to surgery, I am pretty sure that is our only option right now. We will see what happens. It's funny

(actually, not so funny, but you know what I mean) when he was born the doctors were concerned that his legs were disproportionately shorter than his torso. Well, if the fusion stunts growth in his torso, he may end up looking "proportionate." ???? He's on the shorter side, certainly, so only God knows how tall he will end up being.... I just want him to be healthy and not in pain. If he ends up being a shorty, that's fine. Thank you all again for your advice and support. I'll definitely be posting more questions, I'm sure! (12/15/04)mosunshinebaby <mosunshinebaby@...> wrote: I'm assuming his scoliosis is congenital and they've confirmed this with an MRI?? If that's correct then what kind of anomalies

where found with in his spine? I don't know much about congenital scoliosis, I'm just barely sorting things out with our case, but I do remember my Ortho telling me (before we found it was idiopathic) that with congenital sometimes surgery can't be avoided, sometimes they have to correct the malformation however they're are able to in order to hold the spine straight while it's growing. If it's something like a wedge vertabrae (I read a lot about congenital malformations of the spine when waiting to hear if ours was or not) then it seems like it's pretty cut and dry procedure in correcting it & then you can focus on keeping the spine straight while it's growing, if the vertabrae is connected though in anyway though then it's impossible to straighten it without surgery. Once the malformation is corrected then hopefully you'll be successful in keeping the spine straight & once the spine fuses he'll probably be able to

rid his cast even sooner then those of us with idiopathic scoliosis cases! (on the brite side anyway). Surgery on your little baby is aweful to think about and imagine, I did it for a short time before even knowing for sure whether we'd have to face it (and I still don't) but just keep the end of the road in mind, atleast he's young enough now that he won't remeber & ideally he'll be running around as a little boy w/out much recollection of any of it! If they haven't confirmed it's congenital with and MRI, or if it's still considered an idiopathic case, then I say he's crazy of course for talking about spinal fusion & definitely get another opinion.. but like I said above, I'm assuming that's not the case!Good luck with everything, again, I've read that some kinds of spinal fusion/vertabrae seperation can be pretty cut & dry procedures, I guess it depends on what the issues are w/his spine as to how

involved the surgery will be. But if you have that much confidence & trust in your ortho that's huge & should (in itself) help ease your worry... God bless your family through it all!>> So, it turns out that 's curve got worse from his first x-ray back at the end of August. It is now 35 degrees and then it was 30. He has a unilateral bar from T8-T12. The ortho wants to do surgery. He's done spinal surgery on over 100 1-2 year olds. He has done other types of surgery on babies as young as 2 months old. He has been treating our son since last February for a right clubfoot. He is the chief of pediatric orthopedic surgery at NYU and has been voted as one of New York's best doctors in New York Magazine for many many years. We will definitely seek other opinions, but I think I would trust him to do the surgery. His name

is Feldman. We will probably also go see Dr. Boachie or Dr. Widmann.> > Any advice, any questions I should ask, ANYTHING would be greatly appreciated. I'm at a loss just thinking about everything. The surgery itself, the anesthesia, whahe will be able to eat/not eat, how he will sleep, sit, how the cast will be, how the brace will be, etc. He's already wearing a brace every night for his foot (he was born with a right clubfoot). Fun times. He's such a little sweetie pie and I know this whole ordeal will be very trying and I hope and pray that all will go well and that he won't need anything beyond this.....> > > > > > > > __________________________________________________>

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Hi , I agree with Carmell. There are many Dr Feldman's out there who have extensive experience and success with adolescent and adult scoliosis but infantile is vastly different because of the amount of growth our kids have left. He may have fused many infants and toddlers but where are they now in their treatment? 35 dgreees is not so bad yet and I really think you need to hear what someone else has to say. Bridget and I are in Australia and travel to SLC for treatment as we have numerous orthos here who can fuse but no one who can cast so that our daughter may be able to avoid fusion or at least delay it until she will not be compromised in her growth. Good luck Bert and BridgetCarmell Burns <cjbmom23@...> wrote: Hi ,<<He has a unilateral bar from T8-T12. The orthowants to do surgery.>>My son had spinal fusion surgery at age 11 months old.He is fused from T5-L1. 's congenital anomaliesare in a similar area as Braydon's. He would have thevertebrae just above and just below the anomolousverts fused for stability. That means they would fusefrom T7-L1. This is a HUGE part of the thoracicspine. PLEASE consider getting another opinion. Theorthos at NYU are wonderful for adolescent and adultscoliosis patients, especially those who need revisionsurgery after failed previous procedures. However,they are NOT up-to-date on the latest NON-fusionprocedures for infants and toddlers.Braydon's thoracic spine is very rigid and fusedsolid. It does not grow vertically. His trunk/bodyis

disproportionately shorter than his limbs are long.The fusion stops all vertical growth of that part ofthe spine. It grows in thickness, but not vertically.Braydon's height is already 4 inches shorter than itshould be, because of the fusion. He is only 10yrsold and has a lot more growth ahead of him. Thedisproportionate trunk and limbs will continue toincrease.A 35 degree curve is not an emergency. You have timeto find other opinions and gather more information togive the best medical care possible. Fusion maybe the right thing for him, but you want to be 100%certain. You can never UN-DO a fusion.Had the VEPTR procedure been perfected when Braydonwas an infant, he would have been able to avoid some,if not all, fusion of his spine. The VEPTR procedureBraydon had done at age 6yrs has given his lungs moreroom to function and has stabilized the spine.If I

were you, I would get another opinion from docslike Dr. Betz at Shriners in Philly, Dr. Emans inBoston, Dr. Crawford in Cincinnati, etc. Then, Iwould go back to Dr. Feldman and ask him what theoutcome has been of the patients he fused asinfants/toddlers. How many have long term compromisedlung function? How many have disproportionately shorttrunks? How many have had more fusion surgeries laterin life (due to the instability of the entire spine,if applicable)?Hopefully you will find the right plan that you are100% confident with for . My best!Carmellmom to Kara 19, idiopathic scoliosis, Blake 15, GERD and Braydon 10, VACTERL, GERD, DGE, Titanium Rib Project patient #137 (dbl implant 8/01), thoracic insufficiency, rib anomalies, congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery 5/96), missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC (released 4/99), anal stenosis, chronic constipation, horseshoe (cross-fused)

kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney, ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97), neurogenic bladder, bilateral hip dysplasia, right leg/foot dyplasia, tibial torsion, clubfoot with 8 toes (reconstructed 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), pes cavus, single umblilical artery, tonsil-adnoidectomy and ear tubes (3/98), etc. http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/ __________________________________________ DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.

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Hi ,

<<It's funny (actually, not so funny, but you know

what I mean) when he was born the doctors were

concerned that his legs were disproportionately

shorter than his torso. Well, if the fusion stunts

growth in his torso, he may end up looking

proportionate. " ???? He's on the shorter side,

certainly, so only God knows how tall he will end up

being.... I just want him to be healthy and not in

pain. If he ends up being a shorty, that's fine.>>

I don't mean to cause controversy, but, when you say

" If he ends up being a shorty, that's fine " I want you

to make sure you understand the implications. If his

legs are short, that's one thing. There are no

internal organs to complicate matters. Having a

shorter-than-normal trunk may make the internal organs

work harder, therefore not function properly. 's

scoliosis is in his thoracic spine. This directly

influences the size and function of the chest and

lungs. If your lungs don't have room to function

properly, they atrophy, and over time, you end up with

lung disease. Not a fun thought, IMHO. Having a

stunted torso is not just a cosmetic issue. Please

consider this. Fusion is NOT the surgery of choice

for infants/toddlers with thoracic spine

malformations. I hope you will consider getting more

opinions from orthos who treat MANY children like

.

My best,

Carmell

mom to Kara 19, idiopathic scoliosis, Blake 15, GERD and Braydon 10, VACTERL,

GERD, DGE, Titanium Rib Project patient #137 (dbl implant 8/01), thoracic

insufficiency, rib anomalies, congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery 5/96),

missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC (released 4/99), anal stenosis, chronic

constipation, horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney,

ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97), neurogenic

bladder, bilateral hip dysplasia, right leg/foot dyplasia, tibial torsion,

clubfoot with 8 toes (reconstructed 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), pes cavus, single

umblilical artery, tonsil-adnoidectomy and ear tubes (3/98), etc.

http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/

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