Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 You can do a search for perfuming in the time frame, but I doubt you are going to find tea tree among the scents used. Rose, lavender lemon, probably...but strawberry, peach, raspberry? These are produced synthetically even now and I don't see how these scents would have been made 'naturally' then. eo and fo in 1700's Hi, It's me again, the French and Indian war re-enactor. I want to make some lip balm, perfume balm and tea tree balm with beeswax but I don't know what, if any scents and flavors would have been used. I would guess rose water would have been used so rose eo might be ok for perfume balm. What about Llang Llang or Sandalwood. And for lip balm I have peppermint, lemon, strawberry, peach and raspberry fo on hand The tea tree balm I want to sell as an antiseptic balm but how much would I want to use for a batch that would make 20 1/2 ounce tins? Thanks for all your help!! Merry meet, merry part and merry, merry meet again! Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 There is a book that I got from the library interloan and it was by 1st name don't remember but his last name was Culpeper. He had a lot of recipes for the home Dr. He wrote this in 1700's or 1800's someone here know for sure. Anyway--you might want to check him out. If someone else does not have his name let me know and I will try to find it. He is a kinsfolk of my husband's. I think his first name is or (don't quote me) Have you tried the perfume history sites? They may tell you how they distilled the fragrance back then. Just a thought. Glitz Re: eo and fo in 1700's > You can do a search for perfuming in the time frame, but I doubt you are going to find tea tree among the scents used. Rose, lavender lemon, probably...but strawberry, peach, raspberry? These are produced synthetically even now and I don't see how these scents would have been made 'naturally' then. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 Judy, I think bay may have been used, but not sure if it was as far back as that...and seems to me it's more for men's things...could be interesting in a balm of some sort tho maybe, or added to something else you think up. Have fun and be well, Serra p.s. Cinnamon might be another thought, don't know if it made it over here by then tho--and cinnamon's irritating to the skin if it's not cut good. eo and fo in 1700's Hi, It's me again, the French and Indian war re-enactor. I want to make some lip balm, perfume balm and tea tree balm with beeswax but I don't know what, if any scents and flavors would have been used. I would guess rose water would have been used so rose eo might be ok for perfume balm. What about Llang Llang or Sandalwood. And for lip balm I have peppermint, lemon, strawberry, peach and raspberry fo on hand The tea tree balm I want to sell as an antiseptic balm but how much would I want to use for a batch that would make 20 1/2 ounce tins? Thanks for all your help!! Merry meet, merry part and merry, merry meet again! Judy -- " Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will pee on your computer. " -- Anonymous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 Why don't you see if there are any sites on early perfumery from France there might be a way to distill fragrances (which should also give recipes ) from some of their sites and it might be more in your time frame? Just a suggestion. Glitz eo and fo in 1700's > > > Hi, > > It's me again, the French and Indian war re-enactor. I want to make > some lip > balm, perfume balm and tea tree balm with beeswax but I don't know > what, > if any scents and flavors would have been used. I would guess rose > water > would have been used so rose eo might be ok for perfume balm. What > about > Llang Llang or Sandalwood. And for lip balm I have peppermint, lemon, > strawberry, peach and raspberry fo on hand The tea tree balm I want to > sell > as an antiseptic balm but how much would I want to use for a batch > that > would make 20 1/2 ounce tins? > > Thanks for all your help!! > > Merry meet, merry part and merry, merry meet again! > > Judy > > > > -- > " Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they > are subtle and will pee on your computer. " > -- Anonymous > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 Hi Judy: In the latter half of the 18th century, perfumes were evolving into the lighter, alcohol-based colognes that we are familiar with. Bathing had again become fashionable, so heavier scents like musk and civet were no longer required to mask body odor. A brief history some perfumes for the period: In 1732, the Italian Giovanni Farina took over his uncle's business in Cologne. He produced " Aqua Admirabilis " , a lively blend of neroli, bergamot, lavender and rosemary in rectified grape spirit. This was splashed on the skin, and also used for treating sore gums and indigestion. French soldiers stationed there dubbed it eau de Cologne, and Napoleon is said to have gone through several bottles a day-an endorsement that made it so popular that 39 competitors and a half century of law suits resulted. Lily of the Valley and Rose Geranium-Mid-18th Century perfumes by Floris of London, founded in 1730. No. Six Cologne-Was made from a formula brought to America from England in 1752 by the founder of Caswell and Massey, Dr. Hunter. The most popular scent in early America, it was sent as a gift to Lafayette by Washington while he was President. Here are some Lip Salve recipes from a book called " The Toilet of Flora " , published in 1779: Lip-Salve. " Take an ounce of Oil of Sweet Almonds cold drawn, a drachm of fresh Mutton Suet, and a little bruised Alkanet Root; simmer the whole together. Instead of Oil of Sweet Almonds you may use Oil of Jasmine, or the Oil of any other Flower, if you choose the Lip-Salve should have a fragrant scent. " Mutton Suet: lanolin Oil of Jasmine: is a fixed oil like almond infused with fresh flower petals until the oil extracts the scent. 1 drachm=60 drops liquid Lip-Salve. " Place over a chafing dish of coals, in a glazed earthen pan, a quarter of a pound of the best fresh Butter, and an ounce of Virgin's Wax; melt them together; when thoroughly melted, throw in the Stones of half a bunch of ripe Black Grapes, with some Alkanet Roots a little bruised. Simmer these ingredients together for a quarter of an hour; afterwards strain the mixture through a fine linen cloth; and pour into your pomatum, which must be again set on the fire, a spoonful of Orange Flower Water. Having let them simmer together a little while, take the pan off the fire, and keep the pomatum stirring till it become quite cold. It will keep a long while, and is a perfect cure for chapped lips. " Virgin's Wax: beeswax (you may want to omit the alkanet for the gentlemen, as it tints the salve a red color) Other popular scents of the period were: orange flower, jasmine, violet, rose, orris root I am still looking for more period recipes....in the meantime, I hope these are of some help! Cat >^-.-^< > It's me again, the French and Indian war re-enactor. I want to make some lip > balm, perfume balm and tea tree balm with beeswax but I don't know what, > if any scents and flavors would have been used. I would guess rose water > would have been used so rose eo might be ok for perfume balm. What about > Llang Llang or Sandalwood. And for lip balm I have peppermint, lemon, > strawberry, peach and raspberry fo on hand The tea tree balm I want to sell > as an antiseptic balm but how much would I want to use for a batch that > would make 20 1/2 ounce tins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2002 Report Share Posted April 19, 2002 (I am resending this...the first post never showed up) Hi Judy: In the latter half of the 18th century, perfumes were evolving into the lighter, alcohol-based colognes that we are familiar with. Bathing had again become fashionable, so heavier scents like musk and civet were no longer required to mask body odor. A brief history some perfumes for the period: In 1732, the Italian Giovanni Farina took over his uncle's business in Cologne. He produced " Aqua Admirabilis " , a lively blend of neroli, bergamot, lavender and rosemary in rectified grape spirit. This was splashed on the skin, and also used for treating sore gums and indigestion. French soldiers stationed there dubbed it eau de Cologne, and Napoleon is said to have gone through several bottles a day-an endorsement that made it so popular that 39 competitors and a half century of law suits resulted. Lily of the Valley and Rose Geranium-Mid-18th Century perfumes by Floris of London, founded in 1730. No. Six Cologne-Was made from a formula brought to America from England in 1752 by the founder of Caswell and Massey, Dr. Hunter. The most popular scent in early America, it was sent as a gift to Lafayette by Washington while he was President. Here are some Lip Salve recipes from a book called " The Toilet of Flora " , published in 1779: Lip-Salve. " Take an ounce of Oil of Sweet Almonds cold drawn, a drachm of fresh Mutton Suet, and a little bruised Alkanet Root; simmer the whole together. Instead of Oil of Sweet Almonds you may use Oil of Jasmine, or the Oil of any other Flower, if you choose the Lip-Salve should have a fragrant scent. " Mutton Suet: lanolin Oil of Jasmine: is a fixed oil like almond infused with fresh flower petals until the oil extracts the scent. 1 drachm=60 drops liquid Lip-Salve. " Place over a chafing dish of coals, in a glazed earthen pan, a quarter of a pound of the best fresh Butter, and an ounce of Virgin's Wax; melt them together; when thoroughly melted, throw in the Stones of half a bunch of ripe Black Grapes, with some Alkanet Roots a little bruised. Simmer these ingredients together for a quarter of an hour; afterwards strain the mixture through a fine linen cloth; and pour into your pomatum, which must be again set on the fire, a spoonful of Orange Flower Water. Having let them simmer together a little while, take the pan off the fire, and keep the pomatum stirring till it become quite cold. It will keep a long while, and is a perfect cure for chapped lips. " Virgin's Wax: beeswax (you may want to omit the alkanet for the gentlemen, as it tints the salve a red color) Other popular scents of the period were: orange flower, jasmine, violet, rose, orris root I am still looking for more period recipes....in the meantime, I hope these are of some help! Cat >^-.-^< > It's me again, the French and Indian war re-enactor. I want to make some lip > balm, perfume balm and tea tree balm with beeswax but I don't know what, > if any scents and flavors would have been used. I would guess rose water > would have been used so rose eo might be ok for perfume balm. What about > Llang Llang or Sandalwood. And for lip balm I have peppermint, lemon, > strawberry, peach and raspberry fo on hand The tea tree balm I want to sell > as an antiseptic balm but how much would I want to use for a batch that > would make 20 1/2 ounce tins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2002 Report Share Posted April 20, 2002 Cat has some great recipes for Hungarian Water (the real McCoy) and many old time perfume scents. They may be in the library. If not, check the archives. Hope this helps! lynn in valencia lavender bluffs bath and body " A little touch of heaven in your bath " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2002 Report Share Posted April 20, 2002 You've all be a great help in my search for documentation of period correct perfume scents. Some of the links kept me reading for hours. I'm going to visit the library now. J Re: RE: eo and fo in 1700's > Cat has some great recipes for Hungarian Water (the real McCoy) and many old > time perfume scents. They may be in the library. > If not, check the archives. > Hope this helps! > lynn in valencia > lavender bluffs bath and body > " A little touch of heaven in your bath " > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2002 Report Share Posted April 21, 2002 What about vanilla or mints. > You can do a search for perfuming in the time frame, but I doubt you are going to find tea tree among the scents used. Rose, lavender lemon, probably...but strawberry, peach, raspberry? These are produced synthetically even now and I don't see how these scents would have been made 'naturally' then. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2002 Report Share Posted April 21, 2002 what about jasmine or orange...any citrus for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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