Guest guest Posted February 20, 2001 Report Share Posted February 20, 2001 Resending this email...for some reason my first attempt came through all messed up:Roy Palmer asks, " There has been alot of discussion on this topic of late about the usefulness of stabilising the 'core'. Does anyone know where this philosophy originated from? " I suspect it orginated from ph Pilates. He used the term, " core stabilization " and it is still part of the vocabulary of the Pilates " movement. " Pilates is very hip right now...at least one certification organization for fitness instructors & personal trainers is pushing a watered down version of Pilates called " mat science " which blends in some common yoga. Supposedly this type of exercise develops " long, lean muscles " and improves the " stabilizing, CORE muscles. " (At this point, the " mat science " instructor usually points to her trunk so you know what she means by " stabilizing CORE muscles. " ) Go figure. I took an abdominal workout class recently with a very stylish teacher who informed us that basic crunches weren't " in " anymore. She explained that crunches strengthen the " six pack " and the " obliques " , but crunches don't strenghten THE CORE, and THE CORE is what really matters if you want a flat stomach. She stressed, " It's very important to stabilize the core. " (I should get to work on that right away. Heaven forbid that I should have any INSTABILITIES in my transverse abdominus!) By the way, the term " core " has also been batted around to mean " basic exercises " that you should regularly include in your fitness program. I think that use of the word was coined by Reebok. Suzanne Cart Dove Canyon, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2001 Report Share Posted February 20, 2001 Bob Helfst <bob@p...> wrote: <Roy, I am not sure where the notion of core stability originated. I don't happen to think it is stupid. Whether you refer to it as the " core " or the torso or the hips and butt or the lumbopelvic region, our sedentary society is weak there and for the most part everywhere else. Does that mean that all athletes are weak there, no. Does that mean that we can make the jump from patients to athletes, no. However, many non-athletes do not have the strength to sit in chair without freefalling. Many struggle or lack the ability to perform ADLs like getting groceries from the trunk of a car or squat to pick something off of the floor. Our kids are weak and poorly developed in motor skills courtesy of too many hours spent sitting and watching instead of doing. I'm not exactly sure what " core stability " is all about (it seemed clearer to me at one time), but there are definitely deficits in that area that must be addressed. Since the muscle of the thighs, hips, buttocks, abdominals and back (and on and on) must function together, they must be trained together. Call it what you will, but whether I'm seeing patients or coaching kids, I'm seeing deficits. I think that this concept has been marketed and bastardized to the point where it can hardly be taken seriously, but the basics to the concept do have a place. > I agree with some of Bo's points here - also Marshall Bradley's comments in message #5796.... <It seems to me that much of the hostility & antagonism that goes on in this discussion group (often resembling a session of question time in the Australian parliament)stems from the diverse approaches to training of its participants. Obviously many people on this list come from competitive power lifting, or similar, backgrounds. But let us not forget that, as Bob suggests, many people struggle to pick something up off the floor in their day to day lives. We each have our own interests that bring us to this group, & as for myself, I couldn't care less how much you can deadlift or squat (no disrespect intended) because I'm not involved in competitive sport. I am studying to become a CFT because I would like to be able to help people improve their quality of life, by improving the way they feel & function. So while resistive cords & Swiss balls etc. may be entirely useless to a compeditive powerlifter, I don't see why they could not be effective & appropriate tools for 'common people', beginners or those requiring rehabilitation. As for the core - surely these techniques that stem from the so called " cult of core stability " are still useful tools, even if its for nothing other that adding some variety & interest to a training program. > This discussion group has proven to be an excellent resourse for my studies - thanks to all who contribute. Bring it on. Regards Kane Spooner Adelaide, Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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